Quote from: Smt on March 11, 2013, 07:25:23 PMQuote from: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 11, 2013, 07:22:27 PMQuote from: Smt on March 11, 2013, 06:38:54 PMQuote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 06:36:55 PMIt kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.So what? That's the point I'm trying to get across, he was fooled and then got a PK from it, so what? It was IC, there's no reason to unPK anyoneThe fooling wasn't IC however, It was OOC.So you metagamed and then got PKd from it?Metagaming would be taking what was said in the steam chat and using it in a way that would give me an advantage(Like I don't know... Planning an ambush?). Instead I was trying to help outlands out as a whole but I got killed for it(Which it was NLR then, IDK why it got bumped to PK.).You said "We'll meet", which I was under the impression we were going to work together a bit before we do this so its not a sudden leap.I have no idea why it was jumped from an NLR to a PK.
Quote from: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 11, 2013, 07:22:27 PMQuote from: Smt on March 11, 2013, 06:38:54 PMQuote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 06:36:55 PMIt kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.So what? That's the point I'm trying to get across, he was fooled and then got a PK from it, so what? It was IC, there's no reason to unPK anyoneThe fooling wasn't IC however, It was OOC.So you metagamed and then got PKd from it?
Quote from: Smt on March 11, 2013, 06:38:54 PMQuote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 06:36:55 PMIt kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.So what? That's the point I'm trying to get across, he was fooled and then got a PK from it, so what? It was IC, there's no reason to unPK anyoneThe fooling wasn't IC however, It was OOC.
Quote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 06:36:55 PMIt kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.So what? That's the point I'm trying to get across, he was fooled and then got a PK from it, so what? It was IC, there's no reason to unPK anyone
It kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.
We would.. If this was in proper RP, not in mean spirits, and certainely didn't have the undertones of malice that it has shown thus far. We have reasons to appeal and we've put them right here for you all to see. If you did not want your plan to be questioned, you should not have used these tactics. Plain and simple.
QuoteProvide us of logs to show how on earth I fooled you by me saying "Ill see."6:11 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: Why?6:12 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: You and I had agreed on an Alliance in steam chat yes?Sunday, March 10, 201310:51 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: ThanksUnfortunatley I cannot access the conversation as it is too old and has been moved up by steam. If you have any suggestions on how I can, it would be helpful.This has a huge gap between the lines, this is... worrying to say the least. While i can see the timestamp there it's simply not enough. Not to mention it seems much too convenient that you cannot access it anymore.
Provide us of logs to show how on earth I fooled you by me saying "Ill see."6:11 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: Why?6:12 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: You and I had agreed on an Alliance in steam chat yes?Sunday, March 10, 201310:51 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: ThanksUnfortunatley I cannot access the conversation as it is too old and has been moved up by steam. If you have any suggestions on how I can, it would be helpful.
Quote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 07:39:45 PMQuoteProvide us of logs to show how on earth I fooled you by me saying "Ill see."6:11 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: Why?6:12 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: You and I had agreed on an Alliance in steam chat yes?Sunday, March 10, 201310:51 PM - Titan of the Dinosaurs: ThanksUnfortunatley I cannot access the conversation as it is too old and has been moved up by steam. If you have any suggestions on how I can, it would be helpful.This has a huge gap between the lines, this is... worrying to say the least. While i can see the timestamp there it's simply not enough. Not to mention it seems much too convenient that you cannot access it anymore.Does Titan have the logs from that chat?
Quote from: Statua on March 11, 2013, 05:14:14 PMSo let me get this straight.Kronos and Jugger talked in steam chat and agreed in steam chat to form an alliance. Jugger and Elions went ICly to the location (metagame unless scripted RP was planned) and Kronos basically said "no I lied" and killed both Elions and Juggernaut?I feel like I'm missing something from Kronos' side. Someone get him to post here.No, they never spoke in Steam Chat about making a group prior to this.
So let me get this straight.Kronos and Jugger talked in steam chat and agreed in steam chat to form an alliance. Jugger and Elions went ICly to the location (metagame unless scripted RP was planned) and Kronos basically said "no I lied" and killed both Elions and Juggernaut?I feel like I'm missing something from Kronos' side. Someone get him to post here.
You talked to me about an Alliance between all the groups in the OL over steam yes.
Your tactics also had you getting shot at by weapons known for their penetration/over penetration with out RPing that aspect of it.
Your tactics also had you getting shot at by weapons known for their penetration/over penetration with out RPing that aspect of it.Quote from: Would you like some 3.14159265? on March 11, 2013, 06:08:42 PMQuote from: Statua on March 11, 2013, 05:14:14 PMSo let me get this straight.Kronos and Jugger talked in steam chat and agreed in steam chat to form an alliance. Jugger and Elions went ICly to the location (metagame unless scripted RP was planned) and Kronos basically said "no I lied" and killed both Elions and Juggernaut?I feel like I'm missing something from Kronos' side. Someone get him to post here.No, they never spoke in Steam Chat about making a group prior to this. Quote from: Kronos- ???° on March 11, 2013, 07:30:14 PM You talked to me about an Alliance between all the groups in the OL over steam yes.Gonna just point that out and the fact that Pi was also arguing it over TS rather convincingly, going as far as putting words in my mouth.The amount of damage taken doesn't factor in between a PK and a TK. A TK isn't like getting a injury and having to rest for a while(Like when Matt lost his leg.) its more of an extended NLR so there's no way for you to get involved with any direct fallout role play. The gap in between the chat was empty due to no reply or anything. Nothing was said, When I said thanks that was when I believe I found out about the PK.
The point of that was that Pi had attacked me like a dog over that in TS, when you just confirmed it yourself.
And what does that have to do with this appeal?
I can't provide those logs as they were over my mobile, BUT I think Frog still has them and can give them to you.
That maybe ya'll should get your facts straight before you accuse someone of being a lier.I can't see how the amount of damage would count for a PK. As for the TK Keiji said that your group doesn't go for PK's, The OOC drama was mainly started /due to the PK/ I would have left this alone and just moved on, but the fact that it became a PK almost out of no where makes me want both answers and it undone. I really /really/ enjoying playing the Old man.You confirmed that the chat happened. And Pi it's not arguing when you're putting words in my mouth and accusing me of being something I'm not.
Unless you cleared the chat yourself, Steam Mobile should have the full log (With timestamps if i remember correctly) Meaning that if you take the time you can post the logs in their entirety. Either way even if you did not directly state that you were going to form an alliance you hinted Heavily at it, which just continues on with the point
That maybe ya'll should get your facts straight before you accuse someone of being a lier.
I can't see how the amount of damage would count for a PK. As for the TK Keiji said that your group doesn't go for PK's
. I really /really/ enjoying playing the Old man.
The OOC drama was mainly started /due to the PK/ I would have left this alone and just moved on, but the fact that it became a PK almost out of no where makes me want both answers and it undone.
You confirmed that the chat happened. And Pi it's not arguing when you're putting words in my mouth and accusing me of being something I'm not.