Suggestion for LOA rules and inactivity restrictions.

[Officialjake]

I think it would be in the best interest of the server to make any LOA requests for any faction character  with the reason of: "The server isn't populated, tell me when it is." not valid.

If you have a character in a faction that you had to apply for it means that you know how to RP and are a representative of the community on the server.  You should be active on your characters so that it encourages even more people to be active on the server.  Right now if everyone with a faction character was active the server would be booming compared to the average population right now which actually cares about the server (Many Pototes, NRK, Khub, Statua, Nicknero, Dr. Pepper, Delta, Comrade Sterkinov, Tetioko Ippan, Greenman, Krissrules, cow, tyrex, and myself to name a few, I have seen these people on almost everyday trying to populate the sever even if it is empty).

Saying that the server is empty so I won't go on is destroying the server.  If you go online others will too.  At one point this week I myself and 2 other people were online within an hour the server population went from 3 people to almost 9 and stayed that way for a while.


2.  I propose we make inactivity rules for faction characters.  The individual factions should set their own rules but the server should have a minimum that everyone must abide by or risk loosing their character (Unless a VALID LOA is made.)  

Right now the CWU is basically dead.  No one in the CWU has logged into their character at all this week.  The leader hasn't logged in 10 days.  The "veteran cook" has been gone 20+ days and half of the workers are 20+ days inactive.  The only active people in the CWU are trainees which cannot move up because no one that is in charge is online.   

In the MPF conditions are just as bad. 

In ECHO the "TrO" has not been online ONCE since the application cycle opened up.  In fact the only people in ECHO that have actually trained any of the new recruits were Khub and Krisrules.  There are also 4 inactive recruits in ECHO (3 are 20+ days 1 10 days inactive).

In GRID only one SCN unit is active out of 4, however there is not a big issue with actual unit inactivity =)

In RAZOR.... I don't even know where to begin.... Lets start with the HC.  None of the OfC's have logged on ONCE this week.  One of the OfC's isn't even in Catalyst Gaming anymore?  The only semi-active OfC OUT OF THREE! is KillmePlz.  The DvL .apex drops in every 4 days or so for an hour then leaves. 

The only active unit in RAZOR I have seen is NRK which is an 02. 

The sad part about RAZOR is that I have been told by more than a handfull of people NOT to go into RAZOR because it will be impossible to get IC training because the HC will NOT train.  I have actually witnessed it first and has well.  I have been told in character NOT to go into RAZOR because the HC is aweful.

In NOVA, like GRID there is not much of an issue there are only 3 units that are inactive only one of those being 01.  The HC in NOVA is active like in GRID which is great =)

There needs to be rules in place for people in HC positions according to inactivity.  Also the HC need to train the people under them.  It is basically an open secret that nobody likes the HC in RAZOR.

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I think that once anyone in a HC position in any faction goes inactive they get removed and replaced with someone that is active.  This will keep people happy and make the server more enjoyable.  People in HC positions that get removed would be demoted to the rank of 01.  After this every 5 days or so they would be demoted by one rank once they reach 04 which would take 15 days they would be demoted back to RCT and placed in ECHO.  If for 5 more days they are still inactive they will be "deserviced".

For non HC units they would be demoted a rank every 5 days until RCT then after 5 more days deserviced.

UNLESS- that person files a valid LOA.

For non MPF factions a similar inactivity rule should apply.  If the leadership for a faction (ex. CWU) goes inactive it will be replaced so that the faction can continue to grow and train it's members.  Inactive members will be demoted and removed.

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I think factions should be able to set their own inactivity standards but the server must set a global standard for inactivity that everyone must abide by.

This will keep factions active, the server populated, and people who care about the server happy.

For people against this if you are going to be inactive file a LOA.

"Tell me when the server has 20 people and I will play" should not be a valid reason and only leads to the collapse of factions and eventually the server as everyone picks up this mentality.

[Constable Strelnikov]

Regarding the inactive NOVA 01, his internet at his college was down and only just got fixed recently.

Ignore me. Yeah, the 01 you're talking about went inactive for IRL reasons. The 01 I was thinking of is the current OfC.

[[CA] KiwieeEh]

quick side note poppet. Out of the SCN units 2 are Dev SCN units, one is Rofls and never gets used.

the only active and real SCN unit right now is Nickums'

[Many Potatoes]

Did GamingZealot quit CG or just on LOA? If he did quit why hasn't his unit been removed?

[Officialjake]

Did GamingZealot quit CG or just on LOA? If he did quit why hasn't his unit been removed?

I heard from many people that he isn't active with CG anymore at all.

[kmp]

In RAZOR.... I don't even know where to begin.... Lets start with the HC.  None of the OfC's have logged on ONCE this week.  One of the OfC's isn't even in Catalyst Gaming anymore?  The only semi-active OfC OUT OF THREE! is KillmePlz.  The DvL .apex drops in every 4 days or so for an hour then leaves. 

1. I am the only OfC in RAZOR, the other two do not play at CG.
2. I live in Australia. Do you know how active the server is when I'm able to join? Because it's real hard to play HL2RP when only about 3 people are awake when I have the time to join HL2RP.

The only active unit in RAZOR I have seen is NRK which is an 02. 

I'm going to assume you're American then, seeing as NRK is also American. See a similiar thing? .apex is from the UK, I'm in Australia, it would be rare to see us on weekdays, wouldn't it?

The sad part about RAZOR is that I have been told by more than a handfull of people NOT to go into RAZOR because it will be impossible to get IC training because the HC will NOT train.  I have actually witnessed it first and has well.  I have been told in character NOT to go into RAZOR because the HC is aweful.

I have been asked to train someone once. They asked me at four in the morning before I was going to go to sleep. I'm now at school again, where staying awake till four in the morning is pretty hard to do consistently.

I really don't even know why I bother, seeing as people are saying no-one should join RAZOR. Really helps out the division, because RAZOR has always dealt with extremely in-active Units in the past, getting no-more Units should be fine for us.

[aeiou]

Considering I quit RAZOR a while back, just haven't removed my unit, your arguments for RAZOR HC are pretty much null, save the one about .apex. I'm pretty sure KMP is well above the average activity level, just that he doesn't always have the ability to be active when you want him to be.

I wasn't active because literally the only good unit we had, NRK, was in a different timezone than me and I kept fucking up trying to make it to the trainings I attempted to schedule. People don't want to join RAZOR because they have a pretty boring job, which KMP is trying to fix. HC should not be demoted every five days because they're inactive - in that case, any unit should.

Stop treating HC any different when it comes to activity, I did it too, and I regret it. They're just like anyone else and can go inactive at times due to boredom or other reasons.

[Officialjake]

HC should not be demoted every five days because they're inactive - in that case, any unit should.

Stop treating HC any different when it comes to activity, I did it too, and I regret it. They're just like anyone else and can go inactive at times due to boredom or other reasons.

Actually I did state that every unit HC or not should be demoted for every 5 days inactivity.  Which is very reasonable.  It is once a week almost.

[aeiou]

It's not very reasonable. If they are inactive, they should have more of a timeout period than that. Instead, just shove them into some inactivity state where they have to inform people why they were inactive later on.

[Greenman]

Ye 5 days is too short. We need more Officers perhaps though who can conduct training when they're not around.

As for the general population thing, we had 10 people on again last night. I think the server will grow if we keep it up.

[NRK]

I'm pretty sure KMP is well above the average activity level, just that he doesn't always have the ability to be active when you want him to be.

This is so wrong. How did you come up with this when you haven't been on the server since he's became OfC?

KMP's only been on once since the map change. I asked him for training and he came at me with some attitude. He then alt-tabbed in and out in of GMod in the HC offices for 30 minutes before finally leaving. This, making Tyrex/222 leave RAZOR, and plot against other HC is all he's done in the time he's been an OfC.

Apex is a better DvL then KMP is an OfC.

[Adam S]

Every time i read a post from you jake i cringe because of your ignorance for loyalist factions.

Did it ever ring a bell WHY we are all inactive?  It's not because we are too lazy to join when there are only little numbers.  It's just when we get on, slave for a hour on a good building/shop/event; no one shows up.  Everyone runs to D2 as it is apparently the "Best" RP ever.  I have been on off/on making shops only to spend 1 hour afk'ing cause no one will even look at it.  They will just run off to D2.

[kmp]

I'm pretty sure KMP is well above the average activity level, just that he doesn't always have the ability to be active when you want him to be.

This is so wrong. How did you come up with this when you haven't been on the server since he's became OfC?

KMP's only been on once since the map change. I asked him for training and he came at me with some attitude. He then alt-tabbed in and out in of GMod in the HC offices for 30 minutes before finally leaving. This, making Tyrex/222 leave RAZOR, and plot against other HC is all he's done in the time he's been an OfC.

Apex is a better DvL then KMP is an OfC.

I've only been on when I could actually play with people, which is far and few between these days. You asked me for training by going around demanding that we do something with breaching involving other division's Units. You do know I can't force them to do that? How would I teach Breaching successfully when I can only ever see 1 damn RAZOR Unit at any given time. I never attempted to make Tyrex leave, nor intended to. I had an arguement with his character IC and I didn't even know he left the division until I saw he was in NOVA on the roster, I was never told he left and I have never been told a reason as to why. If you honestly try and blame something like that on me then you are really trying hard to cause shit. As for 'plotting', do you really think I would act on those threats? Fuck no. I'm not an idiot and I've been playing the HC game longer then you have, I wouldn't waste my time on trying to do any of that shit seriously. They are idle threats that I just spoke with in confidence with your character, in character. I would never want to act on them. The shit storm it would cause wouldn't be wanted.

It seems that wanting to do something for a division directly correlates with the fact that if I don't show it IC I appear to be doing nothing.

[Adam S]

Let's not forget that if we decided to remove all the inactive units we would have almost none.  And you sure cannot get more just by filling the server to lets say... 20 players.  But that is also the fault of Applications being too ridiculous.

[aeiou]

I'm pretty sure KMP is well above the average activity level, just that he doesn't always have the ability to be active when you want him to be.

This is so wrong. How did you come up with this when you haven't been on the server since he's became OfC?

Believe it or not, an Officers job is not always to constantly train units so that they can inflate their ego. You seem to be hoarding for promotions harder than anyone else I have seen - seriously, cut that shit. You make yourself seem like an idiot.

When someone from Australia takes their time to actually devote time to this community, be it Oz or KMP - everyone here seems to expect they have to be on when the majority is. That's not how it is - you, nor the community, dictates when members should be on or how they should behave or when they should be on.

Cut the crap - literally your one argument is how 'oh man he hasnt trained me yet!!!!!!' - are you trying to get rid of EVERY single Officer RAZOR will get so you can get the position yourself? Grow up and get a grip on yourself.