Wrap Up - The Issue(s) With CGHL2RP

[GamingZealot]

Its nice to see the admins point of view on the matter from the ones who will take the time to defend themselves instead of just throwing around wesker loving socialist. I would like to appologize for my lack of thought and thanking the Devs like RTLK and Crap-Head. I would like to take this time to thank you all and the dedicated admins for what you do and putting up with us. I know it doesn't mean much comming from me, but I appologize for the insults I threw at some of you at various times, as I wasn't thinking at what you do that I don't see.

[Teitoku Ippan]

I would like to mention that what I do as my Officer is In-Character. The reason I act strict is because I must be strict with what I do, with applications, punishments, reminding units of the rules, warning them, blackmarking them, etc. I do not give one unit more leniance than the others, I treat everyone equal. That also happens OOCly, I am strict with server rules, and no matter who it is who is breaking them, whether it is a minge to a complete veteran, everybody is treated equally and gets the same from me. For example, I am friends with the The Joke, yet I had to deny his CCA application for having not meeting requirements, treating his application just like any other equally. I am grateful that Rofl and the other administrators trusted me with this position, and I will continue to uphold the server rules and make roleplaying experience more interesting for people, whilst also assisting people when it is calm, such as helping them build an apartment room, or teaching them something new such as how to roleplay correctly if they are new. As admins we should be a role model to new players and any players.

I am not bothered if you hate me or like me, all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

[raiden]

I'm going to be repeating what the majority of the people have already said but I don't care because you guys need to let this sink into your brains (for those who don't realise), I will be bolding some words so people sink it in more. I am a Sectorial Commander working alongside with RTLK both ICly and OOCly which RoflWaffle gave to me. We both rely on each other to carry out tasks if either of us can't perform it due to personal reasons or priorities. Anyone who lays every damn thing on one individual, in this case RTLK and expects it to be done on your timeline then you're naive. I want you to bring your problems, complaints and/or suggestions to me because it is my job to help you with what ever you need. I am the same Sectorial Commander as RTLK with the same amount of permissions as RTLK thus can do anything that RTLK can do with the power a Sectorial Commander holds. RTLK has priorities with work and other real life things like myself such as school but this is why we have 2 Sectorial Commanders in two different timezones so why not take that into account before rushing into yelling at someone to do something for you? I don't know how many times it can be repeated in one thread. It is not RTLK's fault if you are pushing anything and everything CCA related onto his plate and the request you put forward doesn't get completed, instead it's yours for not going to other people such as myself.

Done with the wall of text but I hope now people are clear or clearer on this and hopefully more of you will think a bit more before "hur nuthing gets done".

(Sorry if there are spelling mistakes or something that doesn't make sense, it was 1 hour past midnight when I made this reply.)

[GamingZealot]

I would like to mention that what I do as my Officer is In-Character. The reason I act strict is because I must be strict with what I do, with applications, punishments, reminding units of the rules, warning them, blackmarking them, etc. I do not give one unit more leniance than the others, I treat everyone equal. That also happens OOCly, I am strict with server rules, and no matter who it is who is breaking them, whether it is a minge to a complete veteran, everybody is treated equally and gets the same from me. For example, I am friends with the The Joke, yet I had to deny his CCA application for having not meeting requirements, treating his application just like any other equally. I am grateful that Rofl and the other administrators trusted me with this position, and I will continue to uphold the server rules and make roleplaying experience more interesting for people, whilst also assisting people when it is calm, such as helping them build an apartment room, or teaching them something new such as how to roleplay correctly if they are new. As admins we should be a role model to new players and any players.

I am not bothered if you hate me or like me, all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

I guess it doesn’t really matter if you don’t care whether people like you, but I will elaborate a bit in response. When you are IC on your OFC, you are right in that you can be as strict or as nice as you want (within cannon), so even if I don’t personally agree with how you act, it’s just my opinion and you aren’t really doing anything wrong. OOC is different; however, in that you can’t act like a OFC would OOC, in game, on the forums, or in vent. I have had experiences with you in vent and in game where you came off very condescending and disrespectful. I believe you enjoy wielding your power too much. The event that comes to mind is obviously 435’s execution since it happened recently. You already know what happened so I’m just going to point out the parts that bothered me. When you went about punishing 435, 3 different officers disagreed with your choice and what did you do? Well, instead of discussing it with us in either IC or OOC to come to a solution, you just ignored us and went to go get Leo to come on and ignore us as well, pull rank, and do as he wished on your word. In addition to this, I joined vent to see what was going on and I joined to see you egging each other on to greater punishments for 435 because he A) Was carrying 2 pistols as he was told he was allowed to by 313 B) Tried to tell you he was allowed to then backed down when you threatened him. I had to bite my tongue from just cursing out you and Leo in the middle of vent chat while I was listening and eventually just left in disgust. Here is an example of what I believe needs to change.

[??. McBullet]

Well, this has been very eye-opening to me. Let me share my viewpoints on RTLK.

At first, I really thought you were a good guy. You were pretty charismatic, rising through the ranks easily, and you got a lot done. I was overjoyed when we could finally circumvent Rofl and go straight to you for issues. I felt that you were the savior of CG whereas Rofl was not. To me, Roflwaffle has represented the inattentive, unconcerned king on a throne. He waits for others to inform him rather than taking any initiative to get things moving. Being his community, he has the ability to circumvent the rules. Sure, this is understandable... but is it respectable? I believe that the most respected leader is the one who eats the same food as his men, worries about his people before himself, and lives in the same conditions as his men. Rofl sits up there, playing APB whereas most of his crucial posts are simple one-liners. I'll stop talking about rofl now.

However, after you made some very callous and stubborn decisions, probably at the height of your stress, I started to view you as a contemptuous, lazy person with a stark immaturity when it came to dealing with people fairly. I also respected you less by your response to the issues you stated on your leave thread (Getting sleep =/= fixing the problem. Confronting your true issues = fixing the problem.). I still feel strongly about the latter reason, so I'll stop right there about it.

Then, your inactivity... I felt that you were becoming another Rofl. And yet, in all my time since the fall of your popularity in CG, I had not thanked you properly for a lot of things you did. With the coming of Wesker, I had started to feel conflicted. Who was right about you? Roflwaffle or Wesker? After some serious thought, I decided to stop giving a shit about being on either side. With my new-found neutrality, I feel a heightened sense of freedom to tell you....

Thank you, RTLK, for all your have done for the community. I apologize for anything I've said either to you or behind your back. I know you've fucked up, but we all fuck up from time to time. We're gamers, not gods. Not one of us is perfect in any way. Not one of us can truly say we handle things 100 percent fairly. Not one of us could truly say we have not been influenced by the corruptible indulgences in favoritism. But, a popular saying (In the mind of bullet) is as follows, "It takes 10 good deeds to erase a bad one, and likewise it takes one bad deed to erase ten good ones." I do believe that you need to work on doing what the majority of people would want and listen to the public more. (Perhaps do a referendum like you did with the switch to C11. That was really decent of you.)

A few good things you've done:
-Getting the public's opinion on mapchanges and other feature additions.
-Adding many helpful features to HL2RP such as admin chat, ability to add or remove loyalist points, the newer vocoder sounds, the ability for the CCA to lock/unlock Nexus doors, being more flexible with High Command, etc.
-Numerous bug fixes to HL2RP
-Addition of the combine sniper, CWU items, the CWU custom class, the guides section of the OA menu directory, easier whitelisting/tooltrust, etc.

Hopefully, you'll erase this negative image of yours and show people who you really are.

* The Purple Crayon kicks over the soap box, holding up a peace sign, then dives out of the window.

[Rictalspace]

If you haven't gotten it, it is for a good reason. I saw you flaming people in MC yesterday which definitely doesn't help your chances. Wanting admin isn't going to get you it, chances are, it will kill any chances you have as it just shows me that all you give a fuck about is power and the last thing we need is more powerhungry people in this community.

I had a good reason for that. Not to mention the cause of that argument was banned. But I can agree that at the time I was appearing as just a raging player. I can admit to that, however, that was one time. Everyone gets angry, and its the fact of all the work I put into a village house in minecraft, just destroyed and having all the resources taken away. It hurt, which is what lead to my anger. But one flaw shouldn't portray the entirety of my personality.
I can tell you right here and now that I am anything but a powerhungry person.

And I agree with the additions to the CWU Karma added, they were very helpful.

[Sniping Hazard]

Its pretty much how life works. Someone wants to have more power than the other. Happines, Sadness, Anger are all emotions that we can't help with sometimes. Someone can be as optimistic as another can be as pessimistic. Its what happens in communities and life.

[Krisrules]

all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

i swear you were posing headcrab ragdolls in observer? (If it wasn't you I'm sorry.)

Leomarr: as an admin you seem to be acting incoherent and rather than talking to people properly with solutions your just trying to take the moral high ground whilst using loads of fancy words and posting hitler pics

[YankeeSamurai]

all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

i swear you were posing headcrab ragdolls in observer? (If it wasn't you I'm sorry.)

Leomarr: as an admin you seem to be acting incoherent and rather than talking to people properly with solutions your just trying to take the moral high ground whilst using loads of fancy words and posting hitler pics

Yeah well, Leo paid in EVE money for his admin rank and fucks around just as much as he admins (in hl2rp at least). Don't worry about him and his smarcastical Nazi allusions

[Teitoku Ippan]

all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

i swear you were posing headcrab ragdolls in observer? (If it wasn't you I'm sorry.)

I don't recall posing headcrab ragdolls O_o what server was it on?

[Adam S]

all I wish to do is do my job as Officer and Operator peacefully as it can be, and uphold the rules on the server and also make roleplay for people interesting and enjoyable.

i swear you were posing headcrab ragdolls in observer? (If it wasn't you I'm sorry.)

Leomarr: as an admin you seem to be acting incoherent and rather than talking to people properly with solutions your just trying to take the moral high ground whilst using loads of fancy words and posting hitler pics

Yeah well, Leo paid in EVE money for his admin rank and fucks around just as much as he admins (in hl2rp at least). Don't worry about him and his smarcastical Nazi allusions

And Yankee quit for a good while and came back and got admin back.  Your no different than leoMarr.  and Leo also was close to getting it without paying so why not run your mouth until you know the facts.

Also im pretty sure calling someone a "Smarcastical Nazi" is flaming.

[YankeeSamurai]

Hah, accusations of flaming from Adam S?! Well I never.

And I've heard Rofl and Karma say multiple times that "rule 1" doesn't apply between admins.
Even if it does, I wasn't calling our dear friend Leo a Nazi. If you read the words, I was saying that he makes allusions to Nazis

And what does getting admin have to do with it anyway- I don understand
Least I don't get permabanned every few months then get accepted back because I dangle minecraft over the devs' heads

[LeoMarr]

Yeah well, Leo paid in EVE money for his admin rank and fucks around just as much as he admins (in hl2rp at least). Don't worry about him and his smarcastical Nazi allusions

I completely agree. I love how this little Wesker and CG fight has become a CG fight. Isn't it sad how easily manipulated we are to fight amongst ourselves? But, I mean hey, it's easy to say I'm comparing Wesker to socialists/Nazis instead of having the higher level of intellect to understand that I'm comparing him to dictators and failed social movements.

Even if it does, I wasn't calling our dear friend Leo a Nazi. If you read the words, I was saying that he makes allusions to Nazis

Allusions to Nazis? Well that's a half truth in itself. If only all of us had the capability to not just say: LOLNAZIS BETTER RESPOND TO PICTURE AND NOT CONTEXT.

But hey it's easy to attack me on Nazis and Buying admin. It's not like you have anything better to use, right Yankee?


In a den of snakes choose your allies wisely.

Leomarr: as an admin you seem to be acting incoherent and rather than talking to people properly with solutions your just trying to take the moral high ground whilst using loads of fancy words and posting hitler pics

You're totally right, I am taking a moral high ground instead of bringing solutions. Doing so feeds my egotistical self interests.

[YankeeSamurai]

I'm not affiliated with Wesker btw
Barely even know who he is

But maybe I'll try to meet him, he sounds like an interesting guy
He's clearly able to get half of CG up in arms and pointing fingers at each other

Also, the fact that the best roleplayers in CG are leaving for this Wesker character makes me curious

[Rictalspace]

Wesker can make communities crumble... I've experienced it myself.

He's not somebody to mess with.