Sorry don't make the mistake that I believe in any way that the world was created 200 years ago by mushrooms. And yes I leave by the door but the window exit is still possible, its just unlikely I would take that path.

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and I think that the religions of the middle east(If you don't know them all think of all the ones that have started wars in the last 3000 years over religion)

This is one of the most blatantly ignorant statements I've ever heard made. First of all, it's obvious you're implying Islam here. Secondly, to say that this religion has started all the wars in the past 3000 years is simply ridiculous. I am in NO way standing up for Islam, but Christianity is hardly scot-free of blame. Secondly, even if it were true that they had started these wars, 3000 years? Really? Islam hasn't even been around for 2000 years.

It's somewhat frustrating and limiting to a discussion when its participants lack a BASIC understanding of the matter at hand yet presume to act as if they do.

I meant Christianity AND Islam.

Don't forget Judaism! They have been around for almost 5000 years in the middle east (debatable on when it was actually a religion with structure). But yeah Christianity was implied because that's where it ultimately started. Its just a spin off of Judaism created by St Paul (that is right. Jesus was a Jew and his disciples were Jews until they died. It was Paul who drove other followers after Jesus died towards a new religion. If it wasn't for him its possible we would all still be Jewish, at least the Christians that is.)

Anyway that's beside the point. I love to read peoples ideas on religion but all in all its a pointless game. Unfortunately in life nothing (and I mean nothing) is certain. Quite literately fact does not exist. Its just down to likely hood of something occurring. For example: We were created 200 years ago by space shrooms who appeared from a cooking pot in modern day and time traveled. These space shrooms laid down the path for everything and define how we worked. By the time you finish reading this the world will end.

Now this is unlikely. But at the same time not impossible. Why? Because in all certainty no one was alive 200 years ago to dispute. Still you would be insane to believe it because all the odds are against it happening. For modern day theories its the same. Gravity may not exist, its unlikely, but it could be a lie. The point I'm trying to make (as insane as it is) is that religion is possible. It cannot be disproved, nothing can (In a sense). Its also possible that science is 100% accurate at the moment. But it might not be. If you get what I'm saying.

IMO the only thing that is impossible is us trying to disprove/prove religion.

a lot of people associate communism with Stalin, Hitler, China, and other countries/people that use it as an excuse to do horrible things and suppress their people. The reason why Americans hate/dislike Communism is because we've had so many ban encounters with it, a lot of wars against Communism.

Just going to point out that Hitler was super anti-communism In fact his SA used to fight communists on the street before he was elected and the fact that he stood up to the communist threat gained him power.

Also I think Americas anti-communist roots come from their paranoia in the cold war. Both governments were so suspicious of each other and so were the people, back then many Americans would have believed communism was the evil thing of the east but I suppose back then Soviet Russia could have tried to destroy them at any moment. If someone pointed a gun at your head all the time but would not fire, he just had it there; you would think poorly of him.

The difference is today communist countries are not aiming their nukes at American and are not trying to "take over the world". It could be argued that soviet Russia under Stalin was trying to take over the world.

I think any hatred towards communism today is just the fallout of the Red scare.

There we go! My full specs in detail.

Today

Oh gosh your right! Ima head down to my bunker before the nukes hit...

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Everyones argument for WW3 being completely and utterly impossible for the sole reason that "It would be bad". This amuses me to watch.
Look, that fact is, it will happen, and nuke probably wont be very involved, because thats foolish, and the entire damn world realizes that. Any gov who uses a nuke in a war will have half the world population at the capital beating on the door with some very sharp instruments. Why are you all so obsessed with nuclear weapons? WW3 will come, like it or not, but its unlikely to be nuclear. Im not saying it will come next week, or soon even. For all I know it will be a century or even a millennium from now, but chaos will always spring up, and saying "chaos isnt good" wont stop that. What can go wrong, will go wrong. I wont even try to assume how it will occur, like you guys seem to be...

Wow you basically just tried to undermine almost 40 years of history :L
Ofc nukes will be involved just not in the sense that you are thinking. Nukes will be involved as a failsafe for the superpowers, which is what the cold war was. Anyone who tries to attack the superpowers e.g. China trying to invade USA because USA will pull their nukes out and say one more step and we blow you up and china will say, we will blow you up. Bam you have a stalemate. Again.

It won't "happen". War will happen, war always happens but the entire world won't split into two sides because they wouldn't be able to fight. A war between superpowers plays out as political manoeuvres, economic strategies and technological advances. Big countries might fight little countries but the main contenders won't throw any punches at each other. The idea of "ww3" is foolish.

Also don't try to undermine my argument by making it sound simplistic, it was much more in-depth than "It would be bad" etc.

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Wow you basically just tried to undermine almost 40 years of history :L
Ofc nukes will be involved just not in the sense that you are thinking.

* Degtyarev counts the numerous number of times that nuclear bombs have been used as a typical explosive in wars

Yeah, not really. People are not going to be using them like you're saying otherwise US would drop bombs is the middle east because they arnt giving us free oil. You clearly dont understand how a single nuclear explosion a doesnt just affect the area of its explosion, it affects a good chunk of the planet.

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It won't "happen". War will happen, war always happens but the entire world won't split into two sides because they wouldn't be able to fight. A war between superpowers plays out as political manoeuvres, economic strategies and technological advances. Big countries might fight little countries but the main contenders won't throw any punches at each other. The idea of "ww3" is foolish.

* Degtyarev counts the numerous irrational people put into power of a large country

You realize thats a lot, correct? Youre arguments for it being impossible for third world war to occur are "big guns exist" and "only good natured and rational people are put into positions of power"

And genocides are myths and wars are fought with baguettes and plastic shields...

Again you keep making my awnsers shorthanded to make them sound stupid. Please read all of what I said before posting. No nukes were dropped but they still played a role in the cold war If say russia hadn't of had any nukes then the entire path of history from 1945 to today would have changed. And that works the other way round as well.


Where do I say irrational people are not thrown into power? I was refering to MAD in my argument. This states that neither side will attack the other because they HAVE BIG GUNS. Do you honestly not understand that that is soooo important! If both sides (America + Russia) hadn't of had nukes it is very possible that shortly after ww2, ww3 would have started between them, but while they were recovering economicly both sides developed nuclear arms and so it didn't happen. Can someone else who has some knowledge of the cold war era back me up here.

Also when did I say Genocides are myths? Where did that come from? And dude ofc wars are not fought with baguettes and plastic shields. But that dosen't mean they are fought with guns either. The modern "war" between two countries does not mean trenches, tanks and guns. Some notable battlese of the cold war: The berlin blockade; guns used 0       The Cuban missile crisis; guns used 0        The Berlin wall; guns used - some but 0 were used from Russians against Americans.

Please learn some knowledge on the cold war and war in general then come back to me with something clever....

Hmm if you have multiple servers available you could host 2-3 UD servers (would be hard to fill) where as you progress you move on to one of the other servers which would have a new map that has harder enemies/quests. Might keep it interesting for players who are getting pass level 80