I agree with BB's line of thinking. Although the god damn minges are getting out of hand one night all I saw in chat for a min. was OOC and ban orders. And the CCA should not be held back to much from giving punishments the CCA don't give a fuck about the civies and as such should be allowed to beat the shit out of them. And also we do need a better way of dealing with new players not kicking them all the time for stupid things that they did not know about. We need to gently help them along not beat the shit out of them OOC I mean damn people...