Quote from: Wayne on June 04, 2013, 11:42:49 PM

Quote from: Alaskan Thunderfuck on June 04, 2013, 09:12:28 PM

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Words of wisdom, Antartican Lightningsuck.

And it honestly really isn't hard to just avoid a ban... If a cop is arresting you, just do what he says... then you won't be banned for running from a taser.

It's not really the fact that he got banned for running from the taser, it's that he got banned for something he thought at the time was allowed. In someone's appeal (can't remember who), the admin said that tasers do not fall under FearRP. Unknowingly, he ran from the taser and got banned for it and on his appeal they made a quote that said something like "tasers do fall under fearRP within an effective range" (which isn't stated on the rules at all, and the "common sense" rule isn't really helpful when something that may be common sense to you isn't for another person) . You'd be upset too if you got banned for something you thought was allowed, but they changed the terms of that being allowed inside your ban appeal.

I'm kind of with quantum on this. I understand that 5 strikes is a reasonable amount of "warnings" you can get before being thrown out. I mean, why not? If they mess up that many times, they might as well not even be here. But in my opinion, a ban should be unbiased and lenient on sticky situations and new players. If you do something that you think is right and you have a way to justify your point being somewhat correct, you should just get a warning point put on your account for violating a rule. That way players can see situations that have happened in the past and learn from them. If it happens again however, I think that's when a ban point should come into play. New members don't always understand everything about the server. Sure, you can read the rules, but if you're actually a player of the server you know that the rules don't always fill in those gaps with weird situations, such as killing a cop in public to defend your friend from arrest. Sure, that may seem a bit obvious if you're a long-term player, but the newer players may not know that. Such as in my case, I got banned once on OCRP for killing a cop in public that was arresting my friend, I figured that because it never said it in the rules, and it seemed like it was kind of RP-ish I would be able to do it, but I ended up getting banned for that. In my opinion what should have happened was the admin would look at how long I've been playing and put that into consideration as well as if I had any other warning/ban points related to that and if not I would get told that it was against the rules to do that and I would get a warning on my account and told that if I did it again I would get banned.

That system seems a bit better in my opinion, because the way I see it now is admins just see something wrong happen and ban them for it. Sure they can appeal and say that they didn't know, but that does them no good (as you can see), and they're usually just told to read the rules (which is kind of hard to do because if the rule doesn't exist, it would just fall under the "common sense" section).

I'm not trying to say that quantum's ban wasn't right, I'm just trying to say that sometimes newer players, or players caught in a situation that they think is right and justifiable, deserve a little bit more leniency than just a slap in the face with a ban.

I totally agree with what your saying, but if he struck out, maybe he should of went through all the rules to make sure he would not get banned. If he was unsure ask an admin. Sometimes people don't follow understand the rules though. I stroke out, and it was only my 2nd ban, and my first ban on OCRP. I really did not know the rules, but if I was aware that I only needed one ban to strike out I probably would of read the rules over a couple more times then just once. But for people who were banned more then a couple times on the same server, they should read the rules, and know them like their the back of their hand before they come back.

Well for some reason when I had started playing OCRP my points were at 5. If you check now, they are at 6. Still 4 points for a perma that had been successfully appealed is pretty though. I understand your reasoning behind it though. I just think that you should give us a little slack if we are new to the server. I know I was perma'd, but really it does not say "Do not kill a cop in public" in the rules. I tried to roleplay it as best as I could before my friend was tased. I had came up with a mp5 from the side and told him to stop. He shot the taser, and I shot the gun. And for that mistake I get a perma ban.

Dude, that was the old ban. I did that once, and then got unbanned. Have not had any trouble doing something like that in the past 3 months. That I get a small 12 hour ban and I'm perma'd? I did not get the perma from OCRP from threatening  a player. Get your facts right before you reply.... When I got unbanned I thought as it was another chance, its not really another chance when you start off at 5 ban points on a server you've never played.

Hey, I got banned on Orange cosmos rp for killing a police officer, and its saying I'm perma banned because I guess the system mixed my my Harbor rp ban points with my orange cosmos ones. I should only have 1 ban point, but instead I have 6 causing me to be perma banned. Brandon told me to post here so I can get that fixed. Thanks!