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General => Suggestions => Topic started by: Roqj on March 19, 2011, 10:05:17 PM

Title: Administration Applications.
Post by: Roqj on March 19, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Problems
Reasoning
Suggestion


I've been looking through a lot of the old and recent posts seeing that people have left since they didn't get the Rank they intended.

I suggest to keep people in the community, when they're application gets denied they can;


I've seen people leave just because they can't get the rank they desire which is really immature and is getting rid of most of the good players we have in Harbor or any other Catalyst server. The point of this suggestion is to keep those players in here and to stop them from giving up on the Servers simply because they can't have a green tag on they're head.

I've also seen people asking they're friends to +Support them because they trust them, that is becoming a problem and just executing the system of Applications.

I don't have much ideas to prevent people from leaving, but I think this idea could work.

Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: JF on March 19, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
If they only stay in this community to get admin then what is the point in them being here at all?
Just because you cant get what you want as soon as you think you should get it, dosen't mean you have to quit, all it means is you have to work harder at getting what you want and showing people you have gotten better.

And anyway if an admin application is denied and the person quits because of, it only shows us that we are right in not letting that person be an admin.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: lemonshit on March 19, 2011, 11:24:27 PM
I've been denied 2 or 3 times and I haven't left.. Yet.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Roqj on March 20, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
Well most people don't just join to get admin, they join do an admin app then they just give up because of the comments made on they're application, not because they don't have the skills and knowledge to be an admin.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: JF on March 20, 2011, 01:45:49 AM
Well most people don't just join to get admin, they join do an admin app then they just give up because of the comments made on they're application, not because they don't have the skills and knowledge to be an admin.

And that is another example of why it would be the right choice not to give someone admin. One of the most important parts of being an admin is handling a situation in a responsible and grown up way, not quitting just because someone gives you a negative comment. What you should do is think "Do they have a point to their negative comment? Do i need to look at myself and see if what they are saying is right and should i change because of it?" that is what an admin applicant should think.

And i acidentally put this in your post so that is why it says that your post was modified by me. Im just so used to the quote button being in a different position lol.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 01, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: tics on April 01, 2011, 04:47:41 PM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.
I guess that kind of wasn't a necropost, but be careful and check the date of the last post. In this thread the last post was March 19th which was 13 days ago.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 01, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.
I guess that kind of wasn't a necropost, but be careful and check the date of the last post. In this thread the last post was March 19th which was 23 days ago.

23 days ago wasn't the 19th lol. I posted giving my own opinion, am I not allowed to?
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: tics on April 01, 2011, 05:14:09 PM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.
I guess that kind of wasn't a necropost, but be careful and check the date of the last post. In this thread the last post was March 19th which was 23 days ago.

23 days ago wasn't the 19th lol. I posted giving my own opinion, am I not allowed to?
It was a typo. It was 13 days ago. And yes you are allowed to, I'm simply just bringing the concept of necroposting to your attention.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 01, 2011, 05:53:20 PM
I know what necroposting is, I am just trying to make the forums more active.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: raiden on April 02, 2011, 12:48:01 AM
It really isn't something we need to argue about guys.

As for this thread, I agree with this and that the administrator applications should be closed. I will bring it up with RoflWaffle.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Roqj on April 02, 2011, 01:05:43 AM
It really isn't something we need to argue about guys.

As for this thread, I agree with this and that the administrator applications should be closed. I will bring it up with RoflWaffle.

This is a great idea, the people who deserve admin are the people who don't register and make an admin app 2 weeks later, they need to earn it.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: S?cojnr on April 02, 2011, 06:27:25 AM
It really isn't something we need to argue about guys.

As for this thread, I agree with this and that the administrator applications should be closed. I will bring it up with RoflWaffle.

This is a great idea, the people who deserve admin are the people who don't register and make an admin app 2 weeks later, they need to earn it.
I love what Rogi says it is very true.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: The Donowitz on April 02, 2011, 08:35:03 PM
If they want to leave, it's there choice.
There problem.
There loss.
Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on April 02, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
If they want to leave, it's there choice.
There problem.
There loss.
Fuck 'em.
You have to stop with calling people bad names and swearing at them. First, you call people who can't play demos dumbasses, and now this? Stop it.

Anyway, I remember Raiden talking about removing admin applications. I think it was on GMR, but not quite sure.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Ludus on April 04, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.

This is really true once you get admin at a community you will realize this.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on April 04, 2011, 08:47:30 AM
I agree with the termination of the admin app section.  Admin-ship is a privilege, and should be earned, not given based off of a application that could have faulty info made after 3 days of joining.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Crap-Head on April 04, 2011, 10:09:35 AM
I agree with the termination of the admin app section.  Admin-ship is a privilege, and should be earned, not given based off of a application that could have faulty info made after 3 days of joining.

Well if you make an app after 3 days of joining which you are lying in. Then once you get into the server they will notice that you cannot moderate anything and will be demoted/banned if any rules are broken on your side.

Also i doubt Rofl and Raiden would accept someone who they've only known for a few days. Eventho some of us just joined the community, we still known Rofl/Raiden in the past and they know how we act in situations.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Nicknero on April 05, 2011, 02:30:45 PM
In some aspects I agree that it sounds stupid if people apply for admin just a couple of days after they joined this community. Even though I did this myself, I at least knew a lot of people from here thanks to OC, and they also saw my administration experience. And thanks to that, look at what position I am in now.

People just need to have enough administration experience before thinking about joining in.
Yeah sure, you might think about "but you have to start anywhere right?". And I sure agree with that as well, but you need either administration experience, or community experience. If you lack both of them, then there is no point in making any application IMO.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: S?cojnr on April 05, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
In some aspects I agree that it sounds stupid if people apply for admin just a couple of days after they joined this community. Even though I did this myself, I at least knew a lot of people from here thanks to OC, and they also saw my administration experience. And thanks to that, look at what position I am in now.

People just need to have enough administration experience before thinking about joining in.
Yeah sure, you might think about "but you have to start anywhere right?". And I sure agree with that as well, but you need either administration experience, or community experience. If you lack both of them, then there is no point in making any application IMO.
Well said and very true.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: smt on April 05, 2011, 02:37:51 PM
I don't really have a lot to say here, but if you're saying you applied 2 or 3 times and you didn't get in, don't act like WITHOUT the apps you would have got admin either. Instead of waiting for the owners to watch you, your just making them watch you instead. So yeah, if you don't get in with the apps, arguing for no apps won't help ya.

Personally I think the apps alongside the usual "admins-watching-players" system would work well; you could wait for the admins to watch you, securing more of a chance to become an admin, or apply if you think you deserve it, hearing peoples opinions etc.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 04:12:53 PM
I would careless if I get admin, it's just admin. Gives you a lot more responsibilities most people are too stupid to do right.

This is really true once you get admin at a community you will realize this.

I've been admin at countless communities, and the new admins always think they are so great and invincible because they have admin.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Nicknero on April 05, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Hehe I remember just the day I became admin on OC. I was like OMG OMG OMG WOOOOOOTTTT YEEESSS GOTTA TELL MY FRIENDS!!!!! HURR HURR. FUCK YEAH TIME TO GO WORK!
But once you get used to be an admin, its not really so special at all. It only brings up more stress in some situations, but its always great to be admin, so you can solve the situations happing yourself except of bothering another admin via steam.

But yep, after you get used to be an admin, its just normal. The only thing you'll feel is the responsibility you have.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: JF on April 05, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Hehe I remember just the day I became admin on OC. I was like OMG OMG OMG WOOOOOOTTTT YEEESSS GOTTA TELL MY FRIENDS!!!!! HURR HURR. FUCK YEAH TIME TO GO WORK!
But once you get used to be an admin, its not really so special at all. It only brings up more stress in some situations, but its always great to be admin, so you can solve the situations happing yourself except of bothering another admin via steam.

But yep, after you get used to be an admin, its just normal. The only thing you'll feel is the responsibility you have.
This 100%
Same thing happened to me. I was really happy and excited to have my first admin but when you realise you are really an admin it hits you, you are admining a server with sometimes 15-20 people on it and quite a few of them are trolls who will try and take advantage of you being a new admin.

Being admin isn't all fun and games, it's sometimes very stressful but the good times far outweigh the bad IMO.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
Hehe I remember just the day I became admin on OC. I was like OMG OMG OMG WOOOOOOTTTT YEEESSS GOTTA TELL MY FRIENDS!!!!! HURR HURR. FUCK YEAH TIME TO GO WORK!
But once you get used to be an admin, its not really so special at all. It only brings up more stress in some situations, but its always great to be admin, so you can solve the situations happing yourself except of bothering another admin via steam.

But yep, after you get used to be an admin, its just normal. The only thing you'll feel is the responsibility you have.
Yeah, most people say they want admin but then in the end they can't handle the stress of it.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on April 05, 2011, 05:05:17 PM
Hehe I remember just the day I became admin on OC. I was like OMG OMG OMG WOOOOOOTTTT YEEESSS GOTTA TELL MY FRIENDS!!!!! HURR HURR. FUCK YEAH TIME TO GO WORK!
But once you get used to be an admin, its not really so special at all. It only brings up more stress in some situations, but its always great to be admin, so you can solve the situations happing yourself except of bothering another admin via steam.

But yep, after you get used to be an admin, its just normal. The only thing you'll feel is the responsibility you have.
Yeah, most people say they want admin but then in the end they can't handle the stress of it.

Who the hell does that remind me of?  I swear I have seen that happen before.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Roqj on April 06, 2011, 04:40:41 AM
The only time I see good coming out of admin applications is when people who know the owners very well, and the owners can't decide weather to give admin or not.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: SkeptiK on April 11, 2011, 06:15:01 AM
Admin applications should stay open. They are not only for the rands that have just joined and want admin. It's for the un-noticed potential in the server, the dedicated members who have the experience but stay quiet until the last minute.

Shutting them would be unfair for the people who are applying atm or who have not yet applied. As this was a method at the starting of this community.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: BltElite on April 11, 2011, 06:32:00 AM
They should close to be honest with the ones there to be reviewed. The owners should choose who gets admin.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Roqj on April 11, 2011, 06:34:56 AM
I've never seen a community/server group which have failed due to not having admin applications, I'm just wondering if there is going to be a shit crap load of applications when this Community gets more popular.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: SkeptiK on April 11, 2011, 06:48:33 AM
I've never seen a community/server group which have failed due to not having admin applications, I'm just wondering if there is going to be a shit crap load of applications when this Community gets more popular.

Is it so hard to deny an application?
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on April 11, 2011, 07:50:13 PM
Nope, mine was practically denied the moment before I posted it :P

I applied way to early, heh.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Nicknero on April 12, 2011, 04:05:30 AM
It's not really important how many administrators we have. Most of them are online at different timezones anyway, so for me, it looks like a lot of them are inactive at all.

If you feel ready to help us out with it, then feel free to post an admin application. I must say, European timezones have not so much admins at all.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on April 12, 2011, 06:35:28 AM
If you feel ready to help us out with it, then feel free to post an admin application. I must say, European timezones have not so much admins at all.
I would just like to add, that there are more European admins.

I guess the answer is up to Rofl and Raiden, "Should we keep the admin apps up?" There are pros and cons, but right now it's up to you if you want to make one. If you do, just make sure you follow the format, and pay attention to how long you have been playing on the servers.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: The Great Milenko on April 18, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
If they want to leave, it's their choice.
Their problem.
Their loss.
Fuck 'me.
Fixed it for you
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: FuriousJack95 on April 28, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
Please restrict that board to 50 posts plus
I hate it when noobs ask for admin 24/7
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on April 28, 2011, 06:18:02 PM
Please restrict that board to 50 posts plus
I hate it when noobs ask for admin 24/7
Already a rule...

As of 4/6/2011, 10 posts and 30 days of being registered on the forums or 50 posts are required to apply. Any applications posted before 4/1/2011 are exempt to this. Donators do NOT need to meet this requirement. Administrators are required to be somewhat active on ALL servers, and have a decent understanding of the rules on ALL servers.

But playtime should be a rule. Like after one month or so, you can apply.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: FuriousJack95 on April 28, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
Please restrict that board to 50 posts plus
I hate it when noobs ask for admin 24/7
Already a rule...

As of 4/6/2011, 10 posts and 30 days of being registered on the forums or 50 posts are required to apply. Any applications posted before 4/1/2011 are exempt to this. Donators do NOT need to meet this requirement. Administrators are required to be somewhat active on ALL servers, and have a decent understanding of the rules on ALL servers.

But playtime should be a rule. Like after one month or so, you can apply.

Yeah, also please demote NaStY, I grabbed an MP5 that someone dropped when they died
he told me to drop it as cop shot at me and then physgunned me at like 30ft and killed me
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on April 28, 2011, 08:35:30 PM

Yeah, also please demote NaStY, I grabbed an MP5 that someone dropped when they died
he told me to drop it as cop shot at me and then physgunned me at like 30ft and killed me
What does that have to do with this suggestion? Please stay on topic.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Darthkatzs on April 30, 2011, 04:18:48 AM
Please restrict that board to 50 posts plus
I hate it when noobs ask for admin 24/7

No offense, but all you do is say "imma post an admun application" and "how to get admun".

/off-topic
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Eclipse on April 30, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
Please restrict that board to 50 posts plus
I hate it when noobs ask for admin 24/7

No offense, but all you do is say "imma post an admun application" and "how to get admun".

/off-topic

And he is most likely to be denied even before he posts an application.
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on April 30, 2011, 02:55:41 PM
Eclipse, can we stay on topic? This is not a thread for trollin D:

Anyways, I personally think that the Applications should be closed, I see a LOT of admins right now.  Or at least make it a tad harder to get in?
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Jeff2307 on May 15, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
If these people leave they don't even deserve admin function...

i applicated i didn't leave because i know im not ready for it yet.
and i like people saying what they don't like about me because i can learn about that.

i don't ragequit and nobuddy should.

Jeff
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Reality on May 15, 2011, 03:51:17 PM
If these people leave they don't even deserve admin function...

Agree 100%

If they come just for admin, they shouldn't be here..
Title: Re: Administration Applications.
Post by: Anzu on May 22, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
To be honest, people who dont follow the format (2 paragraphs, for example) should be instantly denied, not having another chance of adding more, just prooves they cant follow simple instructions.

Yes i know this thread is a week old, but still, would be a very good idea
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