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Title: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Doctor Nice roButt on April 04, 2014, 09:45:50 PM
Many of CG players, including myself, have been on The Spire's New Vegas RP. I went to check it out, had a bit of fun, got a creature character, and was planning on perhaps staying and switching between HL2RP and that.

That is, until I learned that the place is owned by an autistic 14 year old and all the admins are the same as him.
 I noticed a lot of the population was retarded, that happens when you have a large RP, but I assumed the good positions were taken by actually not dumb people. I was captured by the Legion, which is not the New Vegas Legion of raping and pillaging but of giving you food and not being mad when you hit them.

I was then introduced to the admin team and Johnny himself. I'd like to note that I talked with a Super Admin and they seemed quite intelligent, so I'll go out and say not the entire admin team is retarded, but a good chunk is. I was actively mocked and insulted by the admins and then kicked for ' Persistently stupid xd.'

I ended up reporting some I thought was an admin, but turned out to be the owner? Or wasn't the owner. The admins don't seem to know who it is because I kept getting different answers.

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As you can see, the name of the thread was edited by the person who was being reported on (who may or may not be the owner). There are also actual tags you can put on threads, one being an icon of Rainbow Dash and the word "Autistic." Clearly this is a welcoming community. And also the irony that the admins I've dealt with with autistic themselves.

The responses to the thread were very formal and helpful and not mockingly sarcastic or immature at all.

(http://i.imgur.com/Akl9Gxq.png)

To give an insight on the rp it went like this
./me readies gun
Johnny is then attacked, his right arm in the jaws of a Gecko.
./me shoots Gecko in the head

Riveting.

The last response was from an admin who I have another encounter with that caused me to make this fine peice of thread.

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I went over the Creature rules many times and found nothing about S2King, despite many admins telling me to look and that I'm a moron for not reading them. I talked to a not retarded admin about it after the whole fiasco ended.
Doctor Nice roButt: Read through it again
Doctor Nice roButt: Nothing about S2K
Frahsty: It should be implied
Frahsty: Even if it isn't,
Frahsty: You don't STK a player unless they aree
Frahsty: agree
Doctor Nice roButt: We aren't allowed to defend ourselves if being S2K? We cant attack back because we have to rp it
Doctor Nice roButt: if someone is shooting at us, we have to type out rp as we die from bullets
Doctor Nice roButt: because a rule says its required to rp combat
Frahsty: What
Frahsty: If someone is shooting you
Frahsty: then yes
Frahsty: If they are directly shooting you then STK is allowed
Frahsty: Otherwise STRP
Doctor Nice roButt: Then those should be added. I was mocked and told to look at rules that didnt exist.

But before I was introduced to an intelligent human being, I went onto the server to talk to the admin who closed my thread to talk about it.

Transcript of the encounter:
[Before this, they had informed me that Johnny was the owner, even thought i was told someone named Tom was]
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': Johnny is?
[LOOC] 'Sally': yes
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': oh what
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': I wasn't aware of that.
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': The hell
[LOOC] 'Sally': derp
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': heart attack?
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': You'd think the Owner of the server would learn to rp better.
[LOOC] 'Sally': read up on the rp guidelines for the mutant chars
Giving David Spencer a gmod_camera
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': I have
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': uhh
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': I need a detective
[LOOC] 'Sally': and you would think you would at least realize reporting someone for killing you as a mutant means you should probably read the guidelines
[LOOC] Mutant 'Mr.Muffin': How did my gecko die xD
[LOOC] 'Sally': players are perfectly able to s2k you with NO rp
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': I didnt report him for killing me. He
[LOOC] 'Sally': he what, shot muffin? yeah yeah
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': He didnt kill me, he was insulting me and spawned back into an area he shouldnt be
[LOOC] 'Sally': try not to trip on your hospital blanket you aspie
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': After he avoided rp
Player oren left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[LOOC] 'Sally': you're an idiot
[LOOC] 'Sally': honestly
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': What?
[LOOC] 'Sally': just stop
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': I'm trying to be very civil about this.
[LOOC] 'Sally': your entire argument is invalid
David Spencer has teleported Ferox Lev to their position.
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': Most communities discourage avoiding RP and lolshooting.
[LOOC] Mutant 'Alduin': Maybe I was mistaken
'Sally' has kicked Mutant 'Alduin' for Persistently stupid xd.
Disconnect: Kicked by 'Sally' (STEAM_0:0:17777000) for: Persistently stupid xd.
Disconnect: Kicked by 'Sally' (STEAM_0:0:17777000) for: Persistently stupid xd.

Like I said before, I kept getting told to read creature guidelines and that S2King is allowed with them, but nowhere in the rules does it say that. If that little encounter hasn't solidified the retardation of a chunk of The Spire's admin team, then I'm not sure what will. Before I knew Johnny was the owner, I messaged him multiple times thinking he was an admin and he seemed very incompetent at his job. I looked everywhere for admin rules and if I could report the admins for something that would be considered Rule 1 at CG, but there were none. It's basically a free for all there.

Mr. Pettit: Johnny is 14
Mr. Pettit: You shouldn't go to him for anything.
Mr. Pettit: They don't have the same rules and standards of administration as CG did. They're mostly early teen years.


This whole thing has pushed me away from that server and back towards CG, where I know that the admins are held up to a standard and problems are treated with respect. You might complain that sometimes CG admins can be butts or that Rofl eats too many hotwings, but at least our admins don't constantly insult and mock you, and Rofl isn't an autistic 14 year old.

If this is in the wrong area, feel free to move it. I'm sure most of you will continue rping there, but I'll be sticking with CG.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: rBST Cow on April 04, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
thats why i dont play on other servers lol

cg might have its downs but its far less autistic than p much all the other gmod servers out there
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Delta1116732 on April 04, 2014, 10:32:34 PM
I went to go play and as soon as I got in I asked a staff member for a some help on where to find the DL link for their content. They were nice for like five minutes before I got the PM "Fuck off we won't help people from different community's." I replied with "What." Then I got the reply "Unless your willing to leave CG, and make yourself a true member to the Spire then go fuck off." Even after I left I still got heckled by some of their members.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Leon the reboobler :3 on April 04, 2014, 10:50:28 PM
Hm. Interesting. Perhaps we should have a wall if fame and shame for these types of communities. I was about to check it out but after reading this... Hm no.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Statua on April 05, 2014, 12:21:43 AM
They seem pretty interested in welcoming new players... Even if they're from rival communities. RIP spire.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: rBST Cow on April 05, 2014, 12:33:03 AM
I went to go play and as soon as I got in I asked a staff member for a some help on where to find the DL link for their content. They were nice for like five minutes before I got the PM "Fuck off we won't help people from different community's." I replied with "What." Then I got the reply "Unless your willing to leave CG, and make yourself a true member to the Spire then go fuck off." Even after I left I still got heckled by some of their members.

i wanted to go check out the server just so i could see how austismo it was

not even going to bother after reading this.

im sold on the fact that spire fucking sucks lmao
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Hazard Time on April 05, 2014, 01:58:19 AM
Perhaps we should have a wall if fame and shame for these types of communities.

What would that prove?  That sort of thing is beneath you, me, and everyone else at this community.

On topic, that sort of behavior is just absolutely disgusting.  I'd be amazed if their community lasts another month with a stable population.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on April 05, 2014, 05:11:18 AM
their admins have autism
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Vegas on April 05, 2014, 05:26:06 AM
the spire has like a solid gig of content, and then when you do join everyone's running around with guns and failRPing and then an admin calls you an autist and kicks you
welcome to the spire, enjoy your stay
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Lewis on April 05, 2014, 08:36:32 AM
from playing there and reading his posts on fp i've noticed johnny guitar is a holier-than-thou little tit
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Nicknero on April 05, 2014, 09:07:17 AM
And this is why CG is obviously just one of the better communities. Specially regarding it's administration team.
If we ever do anything wrong, or treat any player with crap, we get yelled at by Roflwaffle. And that only makes sense. Because this thread proves how a community's reputation relies mostly on it's administration team. So having autistic 12 year olds in your admin team isn't going to bring your community any good. And this is also the reason why our administration rule 1 is taken so seriously.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: garry :D on April 05, 2014, 10:06:12 AM

Quote
And this is why CG is obviously just one of the better communities.

a good community shouldn't need to contemplate comparing themselves with another.


learn from their failures and use them as a stepping stone on the path to glory~
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on April 05, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
http://sovereignroleplay.net/index.php?topic=273.0

looks like they are going around clockwork servers hacking and shit

EDIT: or used to, so yeah its run by 12 year olds
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Doctor Nice roButt on April 05, 2014, 04:21:02 PM
http://sovereignroleplay.net/index.php?topic=273.0

looks like they are going around clockwork servers hacking and shit

EDIT: or used to, so yeah its run by 12 year olds

I've looked at some of the admins' steam profiles and I saw one of them was VAC banned.
The community is run by 12 year olds. I think CG would do a better job with our current administrative team to make a server like theirs. They have a lot of cool content and I really wanna mess around with it, but the server is autism.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: aeiou on April 05, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
I have a VAC ban too :v:
Title: Re: Don\'t go on The Spire
Post by: Tyrex on April 05, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
I have a VAC ban too :v:

5% warning issued for posting a quote with no comment.  ~Hazard

Post Auto-Merged: April 06, 2014, 03:06:03 PM
I have a VAC ban too :v:

5% warning issued for posting a quote with no comment.  ~Hazard

i was quoting him as well because i have one too, what did you want me to do, put "me too" right underneath it, or "same"? i don't see how that is much better anyways.  i'm glad posting one thing like this constitutes a postwhore warning, it's not like i've repeatedly done this, i guess i really wanted to boost my 253 post count to 254
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: rBST Cow on April 11, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Never tell your password to anyone.
5:50 PM - Jonco: cow
5:50 PM - Jonco: more like
5:50 PM - Jonco: pow
5:50 PM - Jonco: the sound that my gun makes
5:50 PM - Jonco: when i shoot you
5:50 PM - Jonco: powpowpow
5:51 PM - cow: gangster as fuck
5:51 PM - cow: holy shit
5:51 PM - cow: the spire
5:51 PM - cow: LMAO
5:51 PM - cow: ur a fukken noob m8
5:51 PM - cow: rip
5:51 PM - Jonco: ur all faggots who played server
5:51 PM - Jonco: for 5 min
5:51 PM - Jonco: and called bad
5:51 PM - cow: johnny
5:51 PM - cow: is
5:51 PM - cow: 13 years old
5:51 PM - cow: u know that
5:51 PM - cow: right
5:51 PM - cow: n
5:51 PM - cow: all his admins
5:51 PM - cow: r
5:51 PM - cow: also
5:52 PM - cow: autistic
5:52 PM - cow: lmaoooooooooooooooooo
5:52 PM - Jonco: admins are
5:52 PM - Jonco: retarded but
5:52 PM - Jonco: i know johnny irl
5:52 PM - cow: u know a 13 real old irl
5:52 PM - Jonco: lol
5:52 PM - Jonco: hes not 13
5:52 PM - cow: how old then
5:52 PM - Jonco: hes like 18
















there ya have it folks
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Vegas on April 11, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
so he's an 18 year old that acts like a 13 year old with aspergers?
sounds like a great guy
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: aeiou on April 11, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
As if people here don't do the same at times
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Sean Archer on April 11, 2014, 09:33:32 PM
As if people here don't do the same at times

But if you have a server to run while keeping your administration team in check, I don't think acting like they have autism all the time is a good thing, right?  :P
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: aeiou on April 11, 2014, 09:35:05 PM
As if people here don't do the same at times

But if you have a server to run while keeping your administration team in check, I don't think acting like they have autism all the time is a good thing, right?  :P

Going on a different community and calling them autists doesn't help. ;)
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Vegas on April 11, 2014, 09:50:36 PM
at times is the key word here
the owner sounds like he has aspergers, along with all of his admins. try to contact them in a civilized manner and he says 'shut up aspie, dont kill yourself on your hospital blanket' (paraphrased, but you get the point)
the admin team sounds like the most unfriendly piece of shit since RTLK that i've heard of.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: aeiou on April 11, 2014, 10:04:44 PM
I've spoken to Johnny with no issues at all, you seem to be generalizing from your personal experience
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Vegas on April 11, 2014, 10:29:24 PM
Generalizing, maybe. But if he accepts the type of people that Zombie has quoted into his administration team, who knows what else there are out there?
He might be an alright guy, but the way he is portrayed from what Zombie has posted makes him look like an awful person.
Not going on there myself to verify, but from what i've seen he looks like a bad person.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Nicknero on April 12, 2014, 06:56:55 AM
I know I contributed to this thread myself, but seriously guys... Complaining about another community and calling them bad on our own forums in a publicly accessible board is extremely immature and really doesn't make us an inch better than them.

How about we leave them alone, and they leave us alone? It's not like their act hurts us in any way.
Title: Re: Don't go on The Spire
Post by: Remilia Scarlet on April 12, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
I know I contributed to this thread myself, but seriously guys... Complaining about another community and calling them bad on our own forums in a publicly accessible board is extremely immature and really doesn't make us an inch better than them.

How about we leave them alone, and they leave us alone? It's not like their act hurts us in any way.

I am in full agreement with Nick here. We are only going to make ourselves look worse in the process.
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