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That's right, drama
Obviously, this was a big issue in the old server. Hopefully, there'll be less of it in the new one, but it's undoubtedly going to happen. My one question on this would be, why the fuck is this shit just allowed to happen? Obviously, it ruins the environment of the server, and gets really annoying like 100% of the time. So why allow people to just constantly whine about stuff?
We all know that there were people that literally cried about everything.
"oh no, this unit went rogue"
"oh no, you cant have that gun here its not right"
"hey wtf man you cant have that skill!!!!"
I can understand that some stuff people do can get out of hand, and that people should have a right to weigh in on stuff. But when those same people have to bitch about stuff in OOC and on the forums all the time, I'm not seeing why they're allowed to do that. To often did I see roleplay getting prevented or stopped, or at the very least highly discouraged, because it would cause drama. Again, I emphasize that this shouldn't be the case. If people are just going to bitch about things that happen (mainly because they don't go their way, what a surprise), then what's the point of having the server? Roleplay needs to develop naturally, and if people are just going to be allowed to prevent stuff from happening because they don't like it, then there's no real point in any of it.
Thoughts?
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Drama is inevitable, it's going to happen no matter what. Of course I don't like how some RP choices players make with their characters becomes restricted because someone pulled out the metagame card or made some post of the forums about it causing the inevitable. Yet, it's just going to keep happening and happening so I believe it's just how administration and the people involved handle it.
Instead of letting it escalate the only thing we can really do is just try and be mature and make compromises or settle the dispute as peacefully as possible.
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tl;dr mary sue syndrome
'my character must be perfect and rly cool and good at combat but this guy has something i dont which i feel is unfair thus i need to complain'
or
'my super awesome cool character got killed, must complain because even though the rp was valid im too attached to my character'
or
'i dont like this guy lets pk his character because he is elitist look at his guns'
or more commonly
'this character is a mary sue why are they on the server time to complain'
a lot of players characters tend to role out into the mary sue or marty stu group and so drama happens because those sorts of characters would probably not exist in the real world but are some cheesy ripoff of something else from fiction
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less admin intervention in roleplay and more intervention in rule breaking = less drama
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you guys forget a lot of the time admins stepped in before rule breaking for reasons that may not be obvious or were never made public
most admins didnt run around stopping rp they didnt like for no reason other than not liking it personally
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most admins didnt run around stopping rp they didnt like for no reason other than not liking it personally
how was mugging units breaking server rule
or wanting to lead coup in cca and become sec with support of overwatch
or when i went to kill jellyfish i got told by other admins i couldnt do it
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you guys forget a lot of the time admins stepped in before rule breaking for reasons that may not be obvious or were never made public
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yeah but theres a difference between
"hey cant let you do that raged because for X reason it would lead to Y"
than
"dont do that or ill perma ban you"
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smt theres no excuse to step in and prohibit roleplay. unless someone is actually breaking a rule then there's no reason to stop whatever they are doing, that's just destroying rp. assuming what raged is saying is correct, it being he tried to kill jellyfish or whatever her name is called and an admin stopped him, thats utter bullshit and that admin should have his powers taken away immediately.
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smt theres no excuse to step in and prohibit roleplay. unless someone is actually breaking a rule then there's no reason to stop whatever they are doing, that's just destroying rp. assuming what raged is saying is correct, it being he tried to kill jellyfish or whatever her name is called and an admin stopped him, thats utter bullshit and that admin should have his powers taken away immediately.
this thread is just another where admins argue their point against people who haven't been admin and don't understand sometimes we know X or Y is gonna happen so we stop roleplay to prevent even more drama or because something is wrong with the RP thats going to happen etc
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this thread is just another where admins argue their point against people who haven't been admin and don't understand sometimes we know X or Y is gonna happen so we stop roleplay to prevent even more drama or because something is wrong with the RP thats going to happen etc
well rather than be an admin at cg i have led several rp communities and i can tell you interfering with everything isn't the right way to go
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this thread is just another where admins argue their point against people who haven't been admin and don't understand sometimes we know X or Y is gonna happen so we stop roleplay to prevent even more drama or because something is wrong with the RP thats going to happen etc
well rather than be an admin at cg i have led several rp communities and i can tell you interfering with everything isn't the right way to go
well thats gd i guess but cg is another community n a lot of the time the admins know beforehand someone plans to break the rules so we stop them, then we get berated by the entire community for doing it
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Lol this thread is pretty ironic.
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Lol this thread is pretty ironic.
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what makes it ironic nicknero
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smt theres no excuse to step in and prohibit roleplay. unless someone is actually breaking a rule then there's no reason to stop whatever they are doing, that's just destroying rp. assuming what raged is saying is correct, it being he tried to kill jellyfish or whatever her name is called and an admin stopped him, thats utter bullshit and that admin should have his powers taken away immediately.
this thread is just another where admins argue their point against people who haven't been admin and don't understand sometimes we know X or Y is gonna happen so we stop roleplay to prevent even more drama or because something is wrong with the RP thats going to happen etc
hilarious because i was an admin once. sure, maybe not hl2rp, but i had all hl2rp access including logs n all that. you know how many people i couldve banned because i thought something bad was going to happen? admins need to stop going off of assumptions and if someone actually breaks a rule, then handle it. otherwise stay out of their way. please explain why raged allegedly wasn't allowed to kill jellyfish? unless he was breaking a server rule then theres no reasoning behind it. besides, we're getting off topic.
one thing i know for a fact is that if admins just deal with rule breakers and not rp, there will be far less drama and i stand by that.
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maybe not hl2rp, but i had all hl2rp access including logs n all that.
all you had was logs, logs was nothing, no one even used logs, they cant see into the future~~
one thing i know for a fact is that if admins just deal with rule breakers and not rp, there will be far less drama and i stand by that.
rule breaking comes from rp in hl2rp though
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maybe not hl2rp, but i had all hl2rp access including logs n all that.
all you had was logs, logs was nothing, no one even used logs, they cant see into the future~~
one thing i know for a fact is that if admins just deal with rule breakers and not rp, there will be far less drama and i stand by that.
rule breaking comes from rp in hl2rp though
Admins go off of the assumption that something could happen, not that it did. In real life do you think they arrest people because someone thought "hey, this guy has a car, so let's go arrest him because he COULD run over someone". If someone breaks a rule, handle it, otherwise live and let live. Oh and one more thing, I'm /pretty/ certain admins can't see into the future.
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Lol this thread is pretty ironic.
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what makes it ironic nicknero
I thought that was kind of obvious enough, but okay:
Thread subject: Omg stop the drama
Thread content: *Blah blah blah drama blah blah drama drama blah blah*
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ironic nicknero because you're a superadmin on an IC leash
LOL
anyway, I think what happened to raged needs an explanation.
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ironic nicknero because you're a superadmin on an IC leash
LOL
anyway, I think what happened to raged needs an explanation.
wut? Pls repeat what you are trying to say and try to make sense so I can actually understand it.
or when i went to kill jellyfish i got told by other admins i couldnt do it
I was never aware that you were trying to do this, and stopped by other admins. This is literally the first time I hear this, lol.
You know what I find most funny about this thread? Literally all of you are whining about situations that worked AGAINST you. But I don't hear any of you complain about situations that worked FOR you.
For instance, Raged complains he got stopped by admins when he was going to kill one of my chars (It seems). "Let RP live" you guys say.
Meanwhile, he bitched about the fact Challenge of Death Sex's Vortugaunt character disabled some of his "tracking chips". What happened to "Let RP live" here? Idk... But guess what? I voided that RP to avoid further drama about it. But yeeaaahh next time I shouldn't, because admins shouldn't interact with RP situations, RIGHT?!? ???
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theres a difference between trying to kill someone with reason but being stopped oocly and someone disabling tracking chips on their vort character which literally destroys the whole idea of planting them in the first place
please stop
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theres a difference between trying to kill someone with reason but being stopped oocly and someone disabling tracking chips on their vort character which literally destroys the whole idea of planting them in the first place
please stop
Duh, of course it destroys the whole idea of planting them. But what does that have to do with anything?
Are you trying to say exactly what I meant with my previous post? "Oh things aren't going the way how I want it to go. LETS COMPLAIN!"
please stop
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the fact you're comparing asking for reasoning behind why they disallowed the pk attempt from the head of zealot on an informant/combine assassin to going 'too bad i disabled them you cant track me lol' which are completely different situations that have nothing to do with complaining
i would go more in depth on this but I have no idea how it happened or was handled
literally everything you post is either things we have all established in the past when you weren't here or you spouting nonsense
there isnt drama in this thread, he's just asking reasoning behind things he has attempted to do and only recieving 'too much drama' when they get an answer, all you've done is caused drama by complaining about the content of the thread
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can we please discuss the issues of drama occurring and not cause it in the thread itself please or this is going to get locked before it turns into a drama battleground
as for admin intervention, it is needed in certain situations such as if a rule is about to be broken or is actually broken from both roleplayers and minges, or if the roleplay that is occurring is not allowed such as units trying to go rogue etc or roleplay that will just cause horrible drama to kick off and disrupt people's roleplaying experience and immersion
if you call for less admin intervention, we might as well have 0 admins on the server and let us see how long the server lasts
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the fact you're comparing asking for reasoning behind why they disallowed the pk attempt from the head of zealot on an informant/combine assassin to going 'too bad i disabled them you cant track me lol' which are completely different situations that have nothing to do with complaining
I'm comparing those two situations because it seems like all you guys do is complain about situations where admin's decisions got involved that worked against you. In this case example, it would be the fact Raged got stopped by admins when he tried to do something. But when I made an "admin's decision" to void legitimate and good RP and it turns out good for you guys, I don't hear anyone complaining. So what point do we get out of this? Exactly...
literally everything you post is either things we have all established in the past when you weren't here or you spouting nonsense
there isnt drama in this thread,
Literally everything I post is a defense against your accusation on admins "ruining RP".
he's just asking reasoning behind things he has attempted to do and only recieving 'too much drama' when they get an answer, all you've done is caused drama by complaining about the content of the thread
like I said, I never even knew Raged was making plans to kill my character, nor did I know he was stopped doing so by other admins. So unfortunately I cannot give you the answer and reasoning you are looking for.
The only one who can are those who were actually involved in that. So that would be Raged himself, or whoever admin stopped him. (No idea who that would be...)
can we please discuss the issues of drama occurring and not cause it in the thread itself please or this is going to get locked before it turns into a drama battleground
as for admin intervention, it is needed in certain situations such as if a rule is about to be broken or is actually broken from both roleplayers and minges, or if the roleplay that is occurring is not allowed such as units trying to go rogue etc or roleplay that will just cause horrible drama to kick off and disrupt people's roleplaying experience and immersion
if you call for less admin intervention, we might as well have 0 admins on the server and let us see how long the server lasts
What I like to add to this is that admins aren't here just to kick and ban minges. HL2RP's main purpose is to keep piece and balance between players, and make sure EVERYONE is having fun.
It's a known fact that almost everyone who plays HL2RP has at least some elitism in him/herself. Everyone loves to have a powerful character, or has to be better than the others. But what fun would that be for others? That's where admins come in. We try to prevent powergaming, or just stupid situations that make no sense. In other words, we PREVENT DRAMA. You guys see it as ruining RP. But I think CG's admin team is responsible enough to know when to kick in and when not.
If we were to sit back and do nothing until it's already to late, then what purpose do we even have?
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This is the ultimate popcorn thread.
RP = Drama.
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This is the ultimate popcorn thread.
RP = Drama.
Goes without saying that there's always going to be drama with role play but if admins learn their place in this community then I know for a fact there'd be far less. I don't really know much at all about this whole raged pk ordeal but as long as there was legitimate rp done in the said situations then why stop it? If it worked for or against someone, don't stop the rp unless they are actually breaking a rule. Realistically speaking, if a citizen wanted to go into plaza with a gun he could, and it's realistic so why stop it? Clearly anyone that played hl2 would have seen citizens running around with guns while in/near city17. Either way, admins need to learn their place in the server and stop prohibiting role play. If its not breaking any rules, even if it goes against or for someone, don't stop it.
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maybe people should stick within rules and restictions that are put in place then maybe admins wouldn't have to get involved as much
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maybe people should stick within rules and restictions that are put in place then maybe admins wouldn't have to get involved as much
If no one is breaking a rule then why should admins have to intervene in the first place? It makes zero sense whatsoever.
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nice of you to leave out when i said restrictions (aka IC ones)
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nice of you to leave out when i said restrictions (aka IC ones)
What restrictions do you speak of? Please tell me what you mean because I don't think I understand what you mean by that.
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Just noticed we don't have any drama threads in HRP or OCRP or CGRP or HRP2.... Why's that I wonder? Maybe because they are not as serious or advance of a gamemode then this... There's a thought, why don't we dumb this gamemode down a little?!?!?!
In all honesty I don't see the reason for this thing called drama over video games, it's a bit pathetic since a serious rp gamemode is suppose to have mature players on it, yet they have to argue about it, make threads on the forums, bitch and complain about things so little that everyday RPers on hrp or other gamemodes deal with all the time.
I can understand that some stuff people do can get out of hand, and that people should have a right to weigh in on stuff. But when those same people have to bitch about stuff in OOC and on the forums all the time, I'm not seeing why they're allowed to do that.
Not sure why they are allowed to bitch and complain all the time. It's not tolerated on the other gamemodes we have.
To often did I see roleplay getting prevented or stopped, or at the very least highly discouraged, because it would cause drama. Again, I emphasize that this shouldn't be the case. If people are just going to bitch about things that happen (mainly because they don't go their way, what a surprise), then what's the point of having the server?
Well before we go and oft off a server, why don't you not RP with those people. Really easy if ya think about it.
Roleplay needs to develop naturally, and if people are just going to be allowed to prevent stuff from happening because they don't like it, then there's no real point in any of it.
Well if people are preventing things from happening ICly because they don't like it (which you don't know at that moment in time) then there may be a need to alert an admin and ask for assistance to help you enjoy your RP experience. Admins aren't just there because they know the rules well, they are there because their open-minded and are exceptionally well at RPing and know the ins and outs for most RP situations. (atleast thats how I see admins and SAs.)
Welp thats my IMHO on the subject. Nothing more to say really. Just gotta wait till the gamemode is released.
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Just noticed we don't have any drama threads in HRP or OCRP or CGRP or HRP2.... Why's that I wonder? Maybe because they are not as serious or advance of a gamemode then this... There's a thought, why don't we dumb this gamemode down a little?!?!?!
no, thats
no
stop
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maybe people should stick within rules and restictions that are put in place then maybe admins wouldn't have to get involved as much
its an IC rule, so why cant I break it ICly? What if I'm just the kind of unit that doesn't care about the regulations the CCA has in place?
at that point, an admin SHOULD NOT come in and say "lol, no ur gonna rdm or something so this cant happen"
the SeC should take me and, and punish me accordingly. If admins are just going to step in for these issues, why do blackmarks or other forms of IC punishment for the cca even need to exist
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maybe people should stick within rules and restictions that are put in place then maybe admins wouldn't have to get involved as much
its an IC rule, so why cant I break it ICly? What if I'm just the kind of unit that doesn't care about the regulations the CCA has in place?
at that point, an admin SHOULD NOT come in and say "lol, no ur gonna rdm or something so this cant happen"
the SeC should take me and, and punish me accordingly. If admins are just going to step in for these issues, why do blackmarks or other forms of IC punishment for the cca even need to exist
From what I've seen many units are giving blackmarks for things they do OOC, which is amazingly hilarious. Punishing people ICly for something they did OOCly.
Now of course if a unit RDM's someone then take away his unit, that goes without saying. But I've seen units get blackmarks for talking back OUT OF CHARACTER, which makes no sense and is failRP to whomever did that.
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there are ooc blackmarks too
these 2 threads are a collection of misunderstanding and it makes me not want to play hl2rp because everyone is being really, really stupid
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there are ooc blackmarks too
So then keep them in an OOC place, not right in the units name. Why bring them into the IC realm where they don't belong?
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names are -not- ic how can you think they're ic? do you think everyone sees their names floating around above them in game?
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names are -not- ic how can you think they're ic? do you think everyone sees their names floating around above them in game?
So you're telling me when I see someone has the tag "Jane Doe" it means nothing at all since it has no IC meaning? Why can't I have 'Ben Dover' or "X Killa Doom' since names have no meaning at all in the server?
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names are -not- ic how can you think they're ic? do you think everyone sees their names floating around above them in game?
So you're telling me when I see someone has the tag "Jane Doe" it means nothing at all since it has no IC meaning? Why can't I have 'Ben Dover' or "X Killa Doom' since names have no meaning at all in the server?
do you think people are asked to change names by an admin because it looks dumb IC??? the names floating above peoples head are ooc, no one knows them ic, units are told by patches/badges/ranks/whatever, citizens have either name tags or nothing (idk), the names above people are not ic, they can't be, that makes no sense, how do you think that for real?
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names are -not- ic how can you think they're ic? do you think everyone sees their names floating around above them in game?
So you're telling me when I see someone has the tag "Jane Doe" it means nothing at all since it has no IC meaning? Why can't I have 'Ben Dover' or "X Killa Doom' since names have no meaning at all in the server?
do you think people are asked to change names by an admin because it looks dumb IC??? the names floating above peoples head are ooc, no one knows them ic, units are told by patches/badges/ranks/whatever, citizens have either name tags or nothing (idk), the names above people are not ic, they can't be, that makes no sense, how do you think that for real?
I'd like to have the name 'Nigga Squasher' when the server opens. It's only fair because the tags that people have are not IC so why would it matter? Has no meaning so who cares.
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because it looks dumb ooc, why don't you get it? do you not know what ooc/ic is? wow
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because it looks dumb ooc, why don't you get it? do you not know what ooc/ic is? wow
I think I understand where you're coming from, but how will ignoring minges contribute to the general RP quality?
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because it looks dumb ooc, why don't you get it? do you not know what ooc/ic is? wow
I think I understand where you're coming from, but how will ignoring minges contribute to the general RP quality?
what?
im literally saying:
no one at all knows your name Ic unless you tell them or it's visible, if your name really is nigger tits mcgee fuck fanny, no one will know that IC, no one at all, you don't get it changed because it's dumb IC (i mean, it kinda is, but the main reason is that it's an unrealistic name for anyone to pick, that's an ooc situation to change a name)
nothing about ignoring minges?
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I was extrapolating a bit, but I see your point. If you were to be introduced to a Cornholio McFartknocker in a bar, chances are you wouldn't be demanding his name be changed.
The only problem is whether or not we're willing to stop giving a fuck about immersion breakers.
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I was extrapolating a bit, but I see your point. If you were to be introduced to a Cornholio McFartknocker in a bar, chances are you wouldn't be demanding his name be changed.
The only problem is whether or not we're willing to stop giving a fuck about immersion breakers.
what i mean is like, that is a reason to change his name, yes, but names are an OOC thing other than it being a name, if a name is dumb, you change it because it's a dumb name to pick OOC-ly, it's the persons fault
IC rules are literally rp rules, like, sticking to the CCA's rules, etc
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Before I get any farther ahead of myself, what do you propose we do with characters with fail names?
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What...why...?
Why are we talking about names and the like in a thread about drama? I don't understand. Honestly, while I do sympathize with a majority of the people in this thread to some extent or another, this is beginning to come across as super whiny. Like, for real. At this point, you lot are kinda just make the same circular arguments but just dressing them up differently, lol. It's really just back and forth finger pointing now.
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Before I get any farther ahead of myself, what do you propose we do with characters with fail names?
change them + ooc warning/notification? i dont get it, why are people treating names like they're an IC thing
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Before I get any farther ahead of myself, what do you propose we do with characters with fail names?
change them + ooc warning/notification? i dont get it, why are people treating names like they're an IC thing
And suddenly, just when I think I understand what you were on about, you lost me. I thought you were trying to say we should ignore fail names because they don't disrupt RP in any way. I may have to look back through the thread a bit, but how exactly were names being treated as IC?
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they arent idk cow just mentioned it as if they were an IC item - i mean, the names are the names of people yes, but you don't know it ic unless they tell you etc etc, fail names are an ooc thing
my main point is this thrad + auth ones is full of people not knowing stuff
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honestly, I can admit that the admins do know quite a bit more than I do when it comes to dealing with the ooc/ic rules of the server and all that other behind the scenes stuff. But it gets annoying when admins start saying 'no, you can't do this because we've had bad experiences with it before" or "no, something bad could happen and we don't want to run that risk"
Okay, that's great and all, but this is rp, and people play different characters and have different levels of roleplaying capabilities. If it was some average joe that can't even play their unit right in the first place asking for something like going rogue for example, I'd be on board the "no, we don't trust you to not cause an issue" boat. But when a trusted, experienced, and responsible roleplayer comes forward asking for something like that, I think it's really stupid that you can say to them "no, you're just going to cause problems". That's honestly just a huge slap in the face to people, basically saying "we don't trust you", which is pretty stupid considering you're willing to trust other, less capable people to have guns and ammo and basically punish all sorts of characters, along with potentially killing those characters (cough units amputating citizens)
all I really wanted to get out of this thread was to ask the admins to tackle the issue of drama more directly by enforcing rules on both sides of it. Because mainly in the old server, I saw people preventing roleplay due to it causing drama, and wanting to make those people happy. It's in no way fair to say that something should be restricted purely off drama issues, and then only really put a punishment on those grounds to the player who would 'cause the drama'. People that just bitch about stuff because they don't like it, or it negatively affect them, need to get the same treatment in terms of punishments, as they're an equal part, if not even bigger, part of the bigger issue.
also ooc names should not be retarded and are ooc like smt said. if you have an ooc blackmark in your name, big deal. don't get a blackmark next time and people won't make fun of you in looc
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I think what everyone needs is truth and reconciliation. Yes, there were admins who abused their powers to metagame and powergame rebels; yes, there were rogue units who abused their advanced knowledge of Union protocols to metagame and powergame OTA hitsquads. Let bygones be bygones give both parties a chance. The vast majority of the time, admins are doing what they think is best for the server, and while we have had our fair share of abusers in the past (satN, Veran, etc) I don't think we should let that cloud our opinions. As for rogue units, is it really too much to ask to restrict it to those who have proven that they can handle the situation responsibly?
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When i changed hogs name from Captain Black or whatever it was, after warning him. Pretty much the entire playerbase online at the time raged at me to the point of the production of the hogs video.
That was unnecessary drama.
People debating over whats right in rp to improve flow and realism. That's good drama.
Not to mention all this drama brought the community back together in discussion did it not?
Oh and kjun. Thats not going to happen. This is serious rp. This is the nature of serious rp. If we cant handle it then no hl2rp period. Things are going just fine for now.
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Not to mention all this drama brought the community back together in discussion did it not?
You may see things different, but the majority of what I have seen in both threads ("drama" and "authorizations") is non-admins pointing fingers at admins and admins pointing fingers at non-admins over disputes that no longer matter. I say we move on and wipe the slate clean; let us focus on what we can do to make a seriously-fun RP without reigniting blood feuds.
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What in the world are you talking about smt?
Names ARE IC.
The shit you see above people's heads are their physical description until they tell you their name ICly and do that F2 thingy where it enables their name above their head so you can OOCly identify who you know ICly.
Same goes for blackmarks in unit names. Those represent blackmark pins on their suit. Hence, it is IC.
I think I know where you are coming from with saying they are OOC, so let me rephrase myself:
The nameTAGS above their head are OOC sure, but the name itself is IC. If you can see the name in OOC, then you also know the name IC. Otherwise it would show a physical description. So I guess you could say that names above people's head are a bridge between OOC and IC.
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the floating name tags above peoples heads are ic?? everyone can see thme??
i think everyone is trolling me here
If you can see the name in OOC, then you also know the name IC.
thats really not how it works at all
The nameTAGS above their head are OOC sure, but the name itself is IC
yes, this is true, just because you can see the name tag doesn't mean you know a persons name, for example, what if a person only goes by a nickname? because they pressed a button on the script their real name is transferred to my head? no
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If you can see the name in OOC, then you also know the name IC.
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Did you think before you wrote that down?
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We're starting to enter an octavarium here. Let's please stop the circular argument and get back to how we can avoid drama in the future.
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heres an idea
why dont we just wait for the server to actually come up then see how it goes, adapt to what is needed and not needed and stuff like that. we could probably discuss stuff like authorisations and shit a couple of weeks after the server has been up to give people time to settle in, citizens to develop and choose their alignments of pro-union or anti-citizen or somewhere in between etc, the cca & cwu to develop, etc.
we could look at shit like rogue units (strictly though) and a couple of other stuff after a couple of weeks, might not hurt to try them once more but if someone goes potato with it then they've pretty much ruined it for the rest of the people
even then, rogue units should not be something common, in fact it should be extremely rare and if someone wants auth for that, itd have to be thoroughly investigated and made sure the roleplay and backstory for it is really good and legit because units shouldnt be thinking about rebelling against the union when theyll be taking the union supplements which will affect their mind and memories
also on the topic of names, unless someone literally tells you their IC name ICly or, if you are part of the CCA, get a scanner to identify someone, you wouldnt know their name, even if the name shows up above their head because you were maybe in the vicinity of F2 or whatever the hotkey was again
drama in a serious roleplay server is inevitable and we are already seeing this in both threads (this one and the authorisations one), but instead of bickering with each other before the server is even up. we should discuss this sort of stuff when the server is up and adjust rules/restrictions accordingly when its been up
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heres an idea
why dont we just wait for the server to actually come up then see how it goes, adapt to what is needed and not needed and stuff like that. we could probably discuss stuff like authorisations and shit a couple of weeks after the server has been up to give people time to settle in, citizens to develop and choose their alignments of pro-union or anti-citizen or somewhere in between etc, the cca & cwu to develop, etc.
we could look at shit like rogue units (strictly though) and a couple of other stuff after a couple of weeks, might not hurt to try them once more but if someone goes potato with it then they've pretty much ruined it for the rest of the people
even then, rogue units should not be something common, in fact it should be extremely rare and if someone wants auth for that, itd have to be thoroughly investigated and made sure the roleplay and backstory for it is really good and legit because units shouldnt be thinking about rebelling against the union when theyll be taking the union supplements which will affect their mind and memories
also on the topic of names, unless someone literally tells you their IC name ICly or, if you are part of the CCA, get a scanner to identify someone, you wouldnt know their name, even if the name shows up above their head because you were maybe in the vicinity of F2 or whatever the hotkey was again
drama in a serious roleplay server is inevitable and we are already seeing this in both threads (this one and the authorisations one), but instead of bickering with each other before the server is even up. we should discuss this sort of stuff when the server is up and adjust rules/restrictions accordingly when its been up
pretty much this. I can see now that this is just going into a circular argument pretty much with people saying the same things over and over again. I'm just going to lock this now, and I guess if an admin really strongly feels the need to unlock it, then w/e