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Title: The Big Question.
Post by: Lone Wanderer on January 08, 2014, 07:17:19 PM
I'm sure that people have been wondering this, but the question of the day is, where are we going in terms of canon, characters, events, etc? Are we starting fresh? Are our characters as if they didn't exist? I'm just wondering how we should approach going into this new server.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Tyrex on January 08, 2014, 07:23:00 PM
I say we should RP the old city being blown up by whatever and everyone dying except for a few people which idk how that would work out but the blowing up thing would only work if we switched to a new map
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Lone Wanderer on January 08, 2014, 07:25:23 PM
i just want to make my fag hood again so if we restart its happening

but without retarded people with me this time holy shit that was dumb
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: raged on January 08, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
well like 2 weeks before the server died the server canon resulted in ozjackal's group third eye causing a city-scale uprising and 621 disengaged the nexus core and blew the city up so you could use that as the key point and continue canon from there in a different city

but im pretty sure i heard its new characters and everything (it'd be cool to have some of the survivors of the other city maybe make a special appearance every now and then but i wouldn't want to see every single one of them acting like it never happened)
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Cat With A Mustache on January 08, 2014, 07:32:47 PM
I think that there should be all new characters. New stories, people, personalities and the what not. And no body feels bad about some people getting thier old character back and not them.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
I'd sorta like it if we were able to bring back old characters. Some people have a lot of history with them, and are even the reason why they play on the server. So we could just bring back citizen characters, and tell people to remake them. Old authorizations included, but no OOC item refunding. CCA/CWU/Vort characters can't really be refunded though as they base off applications. Just my thought.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: smt on January 08, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
if you cant deal with not having a character you should be on a serious roleplay server
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on January 08, 2014, 08:17:08 PM
there shouldnt be any old characters returning at all, that includes CCA units with the same digits as before
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
Never said I couldn't deal with it. Just my thoughts on what should happen. New characters are easy to make i'm just suggesting we get old characters so people who are attached to them will come back, and play. It isn't even a hard thing to do. The only effort that would be required is by the player himself. The fact that it's easy to do, and will at least get more people for launching a server will help a lot. It doesn't effect the server in a negative way really.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: smt on January 08, 2014, 08:21:35 PM
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Some people have a lot of history with them, and are even the reason why they play on the server.

im talking about what you said here, if the only reason you're(aimed at anyone) coming back is that you can roleplay a character you're attached too and if you can't roleplay them you won't come back then srs rp isnt for you

edit:

ricky meant to post this but fell asleep:

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04:26 - Ric: if you cant deal with not having a character you should be on a serious roleplay server
04:27 - Ric: The overwhelming majority of people who indulge in serious roleplay are social degenerates who play out the roles of people they don't have the balls to be.
04:27 - smt: ok
04:27 - smt: post ur responses
04:27 - smt: in the thread
04:27 - Ric: I'm not going to call our playerbase a bunch of social degenerates.
04:27 - smt: why not
04:28 - Ric: Because I don't want them to hate me.
04:28 - Ric has changed their name to Ric ~ Sleep.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2014, 08:29:43 PM
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Some people have a lot of history with them, and are even the reason why they play on the server.

im talking about what you said here, if the only reason you're(aimed at anyone) coming back is that you can roleplay a character you're attached too and if you can't roleplay them you won't come back then srs rp isnt for you

Yeah that's understandable, and i'll accept that it is true. People do need to know about moving on when characters die. You are right, but I just don't see any real negative effect in remaking a characters memory, authorizations, description, etc. Items are gone so there is no trouble there and, we could easily just remake only citizens. Remaking CCA, or any application/structured faction we can forget about as those can be done from scratch.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Sexy Frog on January 08, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
Personally I don't see an issue with bringing back some old characters. But like Raged said, it should be sparing. Me personally, I'm most likely not bringing back any of my old characters, except maybe Tekel'Pakem if I am able to. I'm don't even want to bring 211 back. I wanna start mostly fresh.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on January 08, 2014, 08:37:33 PM
going to quote what i said earlier

there shouldnt be any old characters returning at all, that includes CCA units with the same digits as before

its supposed to be a full reset, which means your old characters shouldnt be returning plus you shouldnt need to rely on your old characters anymore, just start new stories with new characters and roleplay with them, start completely fresh
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: raged on January 08, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
whole fresh idea is dumb it should be based in the same universe as the previous canon was just in another city

ITS CALLED ADDING DEPTH TO YOUR SERVER
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Sexy Frog on January 08, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
whole fresh idea is dumb it should be based in the same universe as the previous canon was just in another city

ITS CALLED ADDING DEPTH TO YOUR SERVER

I have to agree.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2014, 10:35:39 PM
going to quote what i said earlier

there shouldnt be any old characters returning at all, that includes CCA units with the same digits as before

its supposed to be a full reset, which means your old characters shouldnt be returning plus you shouldnt need to rely on your old characters anymore, just start new stories with new characters and roleplay with them, start completely fresh
But what is the PURPOSE of starting fresh? It doesn't do a thing. Compare it to the CCA Reforms that HAD to be done for some apparent reason. The reform never did anything it just pissed people off. This is no different, but just on a larger scale.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Sexy Frog on January 08, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
going to quote what i said earlier

there shouldnt be any old characters returning at all, that includes CCA units with the same digits as before

its supposed to be a full reset, which means your old characters shouldnt be returning plus you shouldnt need to rely on your old characters anymore, just start new stories with new characters and roleplay with them, start completely fresh
But what is the PURPOSE of starting fresh? It doesn't do a thing. Compare it to the CCA Reforms that HAD to be done for some apparent reason. The reform never did anything it just pissed people off. This is no different, but just on a larger scale.

He makes a valid point. It's quite similar to the reforms, just in a different skin. I think you should just let the players decide if they wanna start fresh or not; don't force them.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Lone Wanderer on January 08, 2014, 10:54:27 PM
If people want to bring back old characters, just make them fill out a short application that just allows us to keep track of whose back, if their skills are legit, etc. Maybe make them reference old auth apps, etc? That way, if people really want to bring back their characters that have development and skills, they can bring the proof to the table.


Also, maybe just waiting a few weeks before allowing people to bring back old characters? That way, new characters can get settled in and make a name for themselves without the past coming to haunt us to quick :P
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: kmp on January 08, 2014, 11:09:52 PM
The reform never did anything it just pissed people off.

Even if I told you, you wouldn't understand.

Anyways, old characters shouldn't be making a return. I'm with raged on this one. The fun of RP is developing your character, which by just having everyone's old character wouldn't really force them to develop their character.

Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: wag1 on January 08, 2014, 11:14:37 PM
some people think they should have power or are good enough for power but really they arent  :-*



damnnn nigga watch the fuck out got the glock ready to squeeze nigga check every alley nigga i be there watch that shit


i have a vest on all my chars
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: raged on January 08, 2014, 11:18:05 PM
i do not support applications at all for character returns, i'm talking about the one-off event of a character appearing for something that may be significant or whatever (for example, another uprising occurs so they bring in some of the old DvL's as advisors on how to deal with the issue)

old characters should be left to die besides only playing background roles
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Lone Wanderer on January 08, 2014, 11:20:19 PM
i do not support applications at all for character returns, i'm talking about the one-off event of a character appearing for something that may be significant or whatever (for example, another uprising occurs so they bring in some of the old DvL's as advisors on how to deal with the issue)

old characters should be left to die besides only playing background roles

actually not a bad idea here
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Tyrex on January 09, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Yes it sucks to lose characters that you've worked on but in this case it's everyone's
If someone can't stand losing their character even though everyone else would be aswell then they shouldn't be serious rping
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on January 09, 2014, 10:57:29 PM
I agree in bringing back characters within respected reason yes.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: garry :D on January 10, 2014, 12:45:07 AM
Hang on, I'm a bit lost here.

Are we talking about bringing back dead characters through a possible application system or are we talking about characters that were living at the time of the last version of HL2RP?
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: smt on January 10, 2014, 01:02:12 AM
i don't mind "characters" coming back but what i do mind is generic "hey i was from c45" "hey me too wow cool" from every character, it should be rare, maybe let anyone remake their citizens (dont think many units should come back at all, just start fresh on that end) but just focus people on making new citizens first and bringing their old ones back just less than often
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Yak on January 10, 2014, 03:11:14 AM
Me and Sexy Frog lost a robot monkey we got a few weeks before shut down that we never got to use.
Please don't bring characters back, it would be insane.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: raged on January 10, 2014, 03:13:38 AM
Hang on, I'm a bit lost here.

Are we talking about bringing back dead characters through a possible application system or are we talking about characters that were living at the time of the last version of HL2RP?

im talking living characters that survived that would have an event based reason to be in the server to help orchestrate an event or storyline

not like some dead zealot target returning from the dead and making up an excuse to how they removed a sniper bullet from their head
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Mr. Pettit on January 10, 2014, 04:33:48 AM
Is there going to be some sort of development going on or will it be the same? It's like when Gmod 13 came out- server was full a day or 2, then went back to 10 tops. I'm looking forward to this and all but yeah. Also that being said I don't think bringing old chars back is that big of a deal. People who took the time to make apps should have them back but CCA characters etc. aren't really worth giving back.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: BltElite on January 10, 2014, 01:46:42 PM
Perhaps a mid way terms of solving the problem would be having it so you can't have the characters themselves back, but you can rp characters who knew of them or knew them for a short while in some sort of regards? So that enables you to keep the canon going as somebody could say "oh i met joe bloggs from city45, he said it was horrible there than i never saw him again after it went bang" or those sort of regards

(just a thought)
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Statua on January 10, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Perhaps a mid way terms of solving the problem would be having it so you can't have the characters themselves back, but you can rp characters who knew of them or knew them for a short while in some sort of regards? So that enables you to keep the canon going as somebody could say "oh i met joe bloggs from city45, he said it was horrible there than i never saw him again after it went bang" or those sort of regards

(just a thought)
We could have prior knowledge to C45 stuff but it would have to be done in auth apps so you can prove you have a legitimate backstory as to how you obtained that info.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Lone Wanderer on January 10, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
I'm still for allowing something like a month or two with the server up before this is really considered. That way, we can get things settled and ready, and see if characters coming back is a good thing
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: rBST Cow on January 10, 2014, 08:32:37 PM
I'm a little confused here...from what I remember if you weren't shot you pretty much escaped because of the train or via third eye. Then everyone moved to indus18 and yea.

I dunno, either way I don't really care all to much. If a wipe happens, then perhaps have it so you could've been friends with the character that "died" or something. But like I said, I don't care all to much but having the ability to at least been "friends" with the old character could possibly help with some butthurt of people loosing their characters. I've lost plenty so it's really nothing new to me.
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Dixon on January 11, 2014, 07:19:43 AM
Yes, I'm still fucking here. I don't know why.

I agree on bringing in new characters, +wowgreensupport.

New people to meet etc, would be fun at some point they're going to die either way, why not?

Even so, I think we should just start from scratch and if you can't work with that, go fuck yourself.

I honestly don't care, either way it would be fine by me, fuck me, right?
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Yak on January 11, 2014, 09:42:30 AM
dixon you really didnt contribute anything there apart from saying nothing matters
Title: Re: The Big Question.
Post by: Dixon on January 11, 2014, 11:00:02 AM
k

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