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Title: The Bunker
Post by: [WB] SDS Bandy [CO] [15th] on April 02, 2013, 01:51:42 AM
Here are the screenshots of the first people inside.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578985129947503918/32D5F36B8BBC582DADCF8A397C758183E1B746FA/1024x578.resizedimage)


(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578985129947502925/7D8CAD89627BD8548BFCC0DE1070F2EFBDC6283C/)


(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578985129947532032/51AB7FFC133146E6D060F53E82396C8E936018A7/)


(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578985129947531119/09C471FBBECD5B20DF4162ECDF9029227AA1F65C/)
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: garry :D on April 02, 2013, 01:55:02 AM
hello

Click to see the original size.
Click to see the original size.

Don't worry, these pics aren't IC. I had the drone available when I was taking some screenshots for some OTA forum stuff so I decided to see what you fools were up to.

Cool to see that the bunker is open for business now.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: shrimp on April 02, 2013, 02:11:41 AM
hello

Click to see the original size.
Click to see the original size.

Don't worry, these pics aren't IC. I had the drone available when I was taking some screenshots for some OTA forum stuff so I decided to see what you fools were up to.

Cool to see that the bunker is open for business now.
These are some awesome pictures, I'd imagine them beings take from a scanner.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: garry :D on April 02, 2013, 02:31:48 AM
These are some awesome pictures, I'd imagine them beings take from a scanner.

I had a prop scanner with an antenna (the flipped hook that appears as a metal stick on the right hand side of each picture) that was being trialed for OTA purposes.

It's good for spying.  ;)

Here are two more. The first one is taken from the top-down camera of the main field command drone that gets put into use now when a raid occurs. The second picture is taken from a flying drone which makes a circle around the playable area of the map automatically.

Click to see the original size.
Click to see the original size.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 02, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
Its about time you guys get to see the bunker and open those awesome doors.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Dallas on April 02, 2013, 11:41:40 AM
I'm not sure giving people control of 12 inch steel doors that can survive a nuclear blast is the best thing to do but ok. Such power requires capable hands. Time will tell just how well it goes.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: rBST Cow on April 02, 2013, 11:57:18 AM
These are some awesome pictures, I'd imagine them beings take from a scanner.

I had a prop scanner with an antenna (the flipped hook that appears as a metal stick on the right hand side of each picture) that was being trialed for OTA purposes.

It's good for spying.  ;)

Here are two more. The first one is taken from the top-down camera of the main field command drone that gets put into use now when a raid occurs. The second picture is taken from a flying drone which makes a circle around the playable area of the map automatically.

Click to see the original size.
Click to see the original size.

Aka the thing that got me killed before the new OL map ;)
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Lone Wanderer on April 02, 2013, 06:47:15 PM
I'm not sure giving people control of 12 inch steel doors that can survive a nuclear blast is the best thing to do but ok. Such power requires capable hands. Time will tell just how well it goes.

Someone is bound to be controlling it. If they have the power to do so (and had the means to open it as well), I see no problem in them controlling the bunker as long as they aren't complete hardasses about it, which they've said they aren't going to be. They said it'd be a 'public place', and I do believe they will keep that promise. However, seeing as they were the ones to open it and have the resources to occupy it, I have no problem whatsoever with them being the regulating faction of the bunker.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 02, 2013, 11:17:41 PM
I'm not sure giving people control of 12 inch steel doors that can survive a nuclear blast is the best thing to do but ok. Such power requires capable hands. Time will tell just how well it goes.

Someone is bound to be controlling it. If they have the power to do so (and had the means to open it as well), I see no problem in them controlling the bunker as long as they aren't complete hardasses about it, which they've said they aren't going to be. They said it'd be a 'public place', and I do believe they will keep that promise. However, seeing as they were the ones to open it and have the resources to occupy it, I have no problem whatsoever with them being the regulating faction of the bunker.
If any problems arise from the bunker being open and people cant learn to share it, I'm more then willing to take it away. Even if that means nuking it.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: raged on April 03, 2013, 01:15:27 AM
If any problems arise from the bunker being open and people cant learn to share it, I'm more then willing to take it away. Even if that means nuking it.

cool more ooc admin intervention with ic matters
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 03, 2013, 01:38:52 AM
If any problems arise from the bunker being open and people cant learn to share it, I'm more then willing to take it away. Even if that means nuking it.

cool more ooc admin intervention with ic matters

Thank you raged.

Statua. You can't prevent someone from claiming something ICly. OOCly I understand, but ICly....thats like saying since you own this closet ICly, you have to share it with those who don't have access to it OOCly so they can use it ICly too.....If we have a code to the damn thing, why do we have to share it? How else will anyone get in without constantly leaving it open for others? I remember being told that the famous Civiwatch got to ICly/OOCly claim the previous bunker, but thats a bit off topic.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on April 03, 2013, 01:51:54 AM
The reason why there'd be some intervention is due to what happened with the previous bunker and the amount of OOC drama that spanned from it.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 03, 2013, 02:04:08 AM
The reason the bunker was sealed in the first place was to prevent IC claiming right away. Claiming of a major area causes problems, especially if it's in the wrong hands. And yes, we can OOCly intervene. If thats not the case then unpk Beans. As serious of a server as we are, we cant let shit fly freely. We need to make sure the server doesn't turn to shit so OOC intervention may take place.

That being said, I love how you all assumed I WAS going to do something OOC.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: The Mysterious Stranger on April 03, 2013, 02:41:34 AM
 The new bunker is quite small for a faction so it would be the valuable place for one to simply inhabit. A bunch of people inhabitating it is another story.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: raged on April 03, 2013, 02:48:04 AM
The reason the bunker was sealed in the first place was to prevent IC claiming right away. Claiming of a major area causes problems, especially if it's in the wrong hands. And yes, we can OOCly intervene. If thats not the case then unpk Beans. As serious of a server as we are, we cant let shit fly freely. We need to make sure the server doesn't turn to shit so OOC intervention may take place.

correct me if im mistaken but khub (a superadmin who outranks you) stated otherwise that admins cannot intervene in IC matters unless rules are being broken, and an example of that would be the beans situation

what's the point in having creativity and conflict in roleplay if admins are going to intervene and prevent anything fun from occuring?
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: BltElite on April 03, 2013, 04:52:19 AM
I see both sides here so i'll give the run down on what will actually happen:

It will continue as is ic'ly and no OOC intervention.

If rules are broken and complaints and all that shit happen, then there will be OOC intervention in the form of a super-admin dealing with the problem.


/thread
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 03, 2013, 11:30:23 AM
Basically what blt said.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 03, 2013, 12:28:15 PM
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If any problems arise from the bunker being open and people cant learn to share it, I'm more then willing to take it away. Even if that means nuking it.

I don't have to assume anything.

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It will continue as is ic'ly and no OOC intervention.

If rules are broken and complaints and all that shit happen, then there will be OOC intervention in the form of a super-admin dealing with the problem.


I took another brief overview at the rules and there is nothing about IC claiming. So the only rules that could be broken are the one's listed unless I wasn't told about a rule that isn't on the list. And of course if a rule is broken then Super Administration will have to solve it.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 03, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
I dont believe you have a say in this since you have a character currently in the group claiming it. That could explain your defending of it. Like really. The reason my group in ineu valley owned the bunker was because it was a gift from waffle for committing so much time on the map. Even then i gave it up after a few months and it was open to the public, apart from the back area as people kept assaulting people but thats a different story.

Point is, why are you defending it so much? It seems to me you intend for shit to happen and to claim it. You havent reassured anyone yet you wont.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 03, 2013, 12:37:21 PM
I dont believe you have a say in this since you have a character currently in the group claiming it. That could explain your defending of it. Like really. The reason my group in ineu valley owned the bunker was because it was a gift from waffle for committing so much time on the map. Even then i gave it up after a few months and it was open to the public, apart from the back area as people kept assaulting people but thats a different story.

Point is, why are you defending it so much? It seems to me you intend for shit to happen and to claim it. You havent reassured anyone yet you wont.

The fact that I just agreed with Blt (and you did as well) should be enough for me to reassure you that I don't plan to claim it and I just said that I have to leave it open OOCly for people to use.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Statua on April 03, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
Alright ill hold your word for it. We can all agree on these terms then?
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 03, 2013, 12:44:31 PM
Alright ill hold your word for it. We can all agree on these terms then?

Continue ICly w/ no OOC intervention which means no OOC claiming, then sure. The only time that door will be closed is if someone in the bunker would gain knowledge of an OTA raid or some dangerous shit.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Reimer on April 03, 2013, 06:51:59 PM
The reason the bunker was sealed in the first place was to prevent IC claiming right away. Claiming of a major area causes problems, especially if it's in the wrong hands. And yes, we can OOCly intervene. If thats not the case then unpk Beans. As serious of a server as we are, we cant let shit fly freely. We need to make sure the server doesn't turn to shit so OOC intervention may take place.

correct me if im mistaken but khub (a superadmin who outranks you) stated otherwise that admins cannot intervene in IC matters unless rules are being broken, and an example of that would be the beans situation

what's the point in having creativity and conflict in roleplay if admins are going to intervene and prevent anything fun from occuring?

This.

It was always my desire for Outlands to be more chaotic, I mean, if two IC factions war over the bunker, so what? If some bandit characters hole up in the bunker and take it over, so what? Hell, what if the Overwatch snipe people at the bunker? What then?

It shouldn't be the admins' actions that dictate IC matters, it just doesn't make sense to me in any other way than being favouritism.

Stuff happens. People fight, like people would do in cases such as these in real life I would reckon, if the admins want to create some order, they shouldn't use their position, they should make their characters, form a group, and do it all In Character, whilst keeping their duties as administrators out of it unless, of course, rules are broken.


Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Sexy Frog on April 03, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
The reason the bunker was sealed in the first place was to prevent IC claiming right away. Claiming of a major area causes problems, especially if it's in the wrong hands. And yes, we can OOCly intervene. If thats not the case then unpk Beans. As serious of a server as we are, we cant let shit fly freely. We need to make sure the server doesn't turn to shit so OOC intervention may take place.

correct me if im mistaken but khub (a superadmin who outranks you) stated otherwise that admins cannot intervene in IC matters unless rules are being broken, and an example of that would be the beans situation

what's the point in having creativity and conflict in roleplay if admins are going to intervene and prevent anything fun from occuring?

This.

It was always my desire for Outlands to be more chaotic, I mean, if two IC factions war over the bunker, so what? If some bandit characters hole up in the bunker and take it over, so what? Hell, what if the Overwatch snipe people at the bunker? What then?

It shouldn't be the admins' actions that dictate IC matters, it just doesn't make sense to me in any other way than being favouritism.

Stuff happens. People fight, like people would do in cases such as these in real life I would reckon, if the admins want to create some order, they shouldn't use their position, they should make their characters, form a group, and do it all In Character, whilst keeping their duties as administrators out of it unless, of course, rules are broken.

Mother of god, give this man a medal.

This this this this. Please, this.

You hit it right on the nail, Riemer.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 03, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
The reason the bunker was sealed in the first place was to prevent IC claiming right away. Claiming of a major area causes problems, especially if it's in the wrong hands. And yes, we can OOCly intervene. If thats not the case then unpk Beans. As serious of a server as we are, we cant let shit fly freely. We need to make sure the server doesn't turn to shit so OOC intervention may take place.

correct me if im mistaken but khub (a superadmin who outranks you) stated otherwise that admins cannot intervene in IC matters unless rules are being broken, and an example of that would be the beans situation

what's the point in having creativity and conflict in roleplay if admins are going to intervene and prevent anything fun from occuring?

This.

It was always my desire for Outlands to be more chaotic, I mean, if two IC factions war over the bunker, so what? If some bandit characters hole up in the bunker and take it over, so what? Hell, what if the Overwatch snipe people at the bunker? What then?

It shouldn't be the admins' actions that dictate IC matters, it just doesn't make sense to me in any other way than being favouritism.

Stuff happens. People fight, like people would do in cases such as these in real life I would reckon, if the admins want to create some order, they shouldn't use their position, they should make their characters, form a group, and do it all In Character, whilst keeping their duties as administrators out of it unless, of course, rules are broken.

Sir, I love you. You just said what I basically did and was afraid to point. I must congratulate you. I made this group to incorperate a new form of RP, by any means.

Good. Good man.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: raged on April 04, 2013, 01:09:05 AM
but i said that first
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Reimer on April 04, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
You did, but that's not what matters. What matters is we agree on the issue at hand. I'll rant more on this tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on April 04, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
but i said that first

I love you both equally for the support raged. Still, I agree with you both. But for the sake of an emotion filled response, from others who disagree, i'll just remain neutral since apparently I don't have a say in it. Don't want to bring this back up if we've already decided on a verdict for it ya know?

As long as everyone is happy, then i'm all good.
Title: Re: The Bunker
Post by: Sexy Frog on April 04, 2013, 01:56:31 AM
but i said that first

I love you both equally for the support raged. Still, I agree with you both. But for the sake of an emotion filled response, from others who disagree, i'll just remain neutral since apparently I don't have a say in it.

Being as I am no longer affiliated with the group anymore due to my Vortiguants death, I can go ahead and say I support, as I now do 'have a say in the matter'.
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