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Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Topic started by: @Mmmaaattt94 on August 02, 2011, 08:58:14 AM
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Like so many people i think mugging is not canon and just completely fails. But some agree with it. So in the intrest of fairness, here is a vote. You decided if its allowed or not.
(If you want to see the original topic http://www.catalyst-gaming.net/index.php?topic=4602.0 )
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Have you ever seen any mugging in HL2? No. It's really REALLY stupid how people go mug their own species in a war against greater enemies... The whole purpose of Outlands RP is to survive by finding supplies/food, and hiding from combines. Not set up your base and protect yourself from other damn humans. If this stays allowed, then why not add weed as well, and turn it into OCRP completely?
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I personally don't like mugging, but I don't see how it's un-canon? Think about this, Gordon arrives like, what, 10-15 years after the time that HL2RP is set in, by that time, humanity's going to be really fed up with the Combine, and they're all going to have to work together to survive? IMO, That's why you don't see mugging in HL2. (+ You never actually see rebels strolling around the canals and Outlands, so who knows? )
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I personally don't like mugging, but I don't see how it's un-canon? Think about this, Gordon arrives like, what, 10-15 years after the time that HL2RP is set in, by that time, humanity's going to be really fed up with the Combine, and they're all going to have to work together to survive? IMO, That's why you don't see mugging in HL2. (+ You never actually see rebels strolling around the canals and Outlands, so who knows? )
still mugging should nt be alowed. Peoople will bitch when people run away, because you can, and the then they wil alll spam the chat screaming fail rp and mingrunning, not even knowing the meaning (this happened yesterday)
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I can see both sides of the argument but for god sake, it isnt really canon, it is just an excuse for minges to stay and bring friends and it ruins rp. I mean its just stupid, i have had my door fail blown in 2 times by people trying to mug me, its stupid and failed on so many levels. It should be against the rules / be VERY restricted.
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Alright, seeming as you're all upset about my roleplaying ways, I will explain them.
First, seeing as you're all butthurt over the mugging, let's relate it to real life, shall we? Roleplay is nothing but a reflection of real life with a fictional character, no? Well, let's discuss reality. Muggers and thieves. What are they? Are they "FailRPers" of the world we live in today? Or are they desperate for money and food so much that they are willing to mug other people to survive? Well, the answer is yes. Muggers and thieves are often stealing from others in order for themselves to survive. Desperation for survival.
Now: let's relate that to the Outlands scenerio which we are all angry about. Outlands: what is it? It's the outskirts, or deserted areas of what once were cities. Who inhabits these areas? People who do not seek the Universal Union's success. They see it as torture, and escaped the heavily guarded cities in order to spend their lives in the ways that they see best to survive. What does this mean? Well, obviously that everyone is striving to survive. Are all people living their lives in a Christ-like way? No. Does everyone have the same morals? No. Is everyone of the same sanity at these times of desperation? No.
So at this point, what we have come to gather in this rage-full thread, is that mugging is "FailRP" and is "un-Canon". So, gentlemen, let me ask you this: are all refugees striving towards the same goal in this roleplay server? Yes, yes, they are. But are they all expected to achieve freedom, peace, and survival through unity? The answer to that is no. As I've stated previously; muggers and thieves only do what they do because they are desperate to survive, and see no other way to go about it. In my mugging RP, my character is desperate for survival, struggling in his habitat, and has been becoming, what some would call, insane. I understand that you all see Outlands as a place of teamwork between the refugees, but that's not it at all. I don't care if there were no mugging scenes in either one of the Half Life games. Mugging is an attempt at survival, as seen through one's state of mind. Surely: Gordon Freeman was never seen being mugged, that would be ridiculous, but not non-Canon.
The next question I must ask: how is this RP, in any way, non-Canon? This is a fantasy world, and a game (keep that in mind). It is also a roleplaying server. My character has laid his hands on a weapon, and is going through a time where the only way for himself to survive is through the mugging of others. As I have seen some ridiculous points being made about us only mugging Bleach, and only un-armed people, I will explain those, because clearly; you have no common sense. Why would you mug a person who could fight back with the same firepower that you are mugging the person with? Un-armed people are weak, and defenseless; thus making them easy targets to pick off and attack. Mugging people with guns would risk the mugger's life to a point where any sudden move can make the mugger fire without a second thought. Now; the next point. Why mug people for Bleach? Well, first of, that is an understatement. We do not mug people for Bleach, but occasionally run across it. What do we do with the goods we mug that cannot be consumed? We sell them in order to aquire currency, so that we can buy the food required for our characters to stay alive, staying within realism.
The fact that you're all upset about simple RP and disconnect to avoid it is insanely immature.
Read over everything I said. It will open your eyes to reality. Welcome.
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Not everyone is going to get along. Not everyone is mentally sane. Mugging is in no way 'uncanon' and will remain allowed - however, we will add guidelines to it and doing it without proper IC reasoning and doing it excessively will not be allowed.
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We fully RP every step of it, and we don't do it excessively; we do like 2 or 3 a day at most. Sometimes: not at all.
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We fully RP every step of it, and we don't do it excessively; we do like 2 or 3 a day at most. Sometimes: not at all.
2 or 3 a day? That for me is WAY too much for RPing mugs.
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Concidering the amount of player flow, it's the perfect amount; if not too little.
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My two cents: Please. There is no problem problem with mugging. Just the people who want to keep their items who have the problems.
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We fully RP every step of it, and we don't do it excessively; we do like 2 or 3 a day at most. Sometimes: not at all.
Ya and if someone rp's running away you'll scream failrp and mingerun then they will be banned because your basing you're roleplay experience off of getting weapons and items, which should be more devoted to developing your character.
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I'm saying yes because the fact is, a lot people have guns so mugging becomes a very difficult task. If mugging is permitted this will encourage people to stick together for safety creating passive RP. This is actually how Easy Station was kindve started, it was meant to help refugee's stay safe from whatever dangers may be in the outlands. I feel like that mugging should always be with a good roleplaying reason as well(whatever that may be). A rule should be included that any mugging or muggee(person being mugged) has the right to pause roleplay and call for an admin. If an admin is unavailable then the mugging is canceled, it should be highly encouraged that people record just like they do in OCRP to take appropriate actions against any broken rules. Having an admin there will prevent any powergaming/metagaming and make sure that PK's are given to the appropriate parties. I also feel that a person may only mug whatever is equipped, IC'ly people would leave there shit in some sort of 'camp'.
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If I get mugged and they take so many tokens I have none left (Then, an undeletabpe char) then it's going to be a problem. I don't want mugging, you're fighting for your life, not for keeping your bleach from others.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
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Ya and if someone rp's running away you'll scream failrp and mingerun then they will be banned because your basing you're roleplay experience off of getting weapons and items, which should be more devoted to developing your character.
I totally agree, it's about giving your character a big story, yet you are going to mug for items 'because they are so important' which is not what OpenAura was meant for.
Do what Lewis(I think him) does, run away from the combine. Speak with people, don't rob them.
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Another reason I feel mugging should be permitted is purely because I love PK'ing muggers.
EDIT: I really want to emphasize what I said earlier about how mugging should be permitted because it encourage people to stay in groups which is really follows the canon. Fact is, aint no one gonna mug a an refugee camp especially if the people who run it are armed to the teeth.
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Another reason I feel mugging should be permitted is purely because I love PK'ing muggers.
EDIT: I really want to emphasize what I said earlier about how mugging should be permitted because it encourage people to stay in groups which is really follows the canon. Fact is, aint no one gonna mug a an refugee camp especially if the people who run it are armed to the teeth.
That's cool and all, but what if you're new and you know no one? They will try to mug you when they see you're alone.
Great way to empty the servers, make new players leave because they get harassed by groups.
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Another reason I feel mugging should be permitted is purely because I love PK'ing muggers.
EDIT: I really want to emphasize what I said earlier about how mugging should be permitted because it encourage people to stay in groups which is really follows the canon. Fact is, aint no one gonna mug a an refugee camp especially if the people who run it are armed to the teeth.
That's cool and all, but what if you're new and you know no one? They will try to mug you when they see you're alone.
Great way to empty the servers, make new players leave because they get harassed by groups.
But what can you possibly mug from a new player? Lol
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Another reason I feel mugging should be permitted is purely because I love PK'ing muggers.
EDIT: I really want to emphasize what I said earlier about how mugging should be permitted because it encourage people to stay in groups which is really follows the canon. Fact is, aint no one gonna mug a an refugee camp especially if the people who run it are armed to the teeth.
That's cool and all, but what if you're new and you know no one? They will try to mug you when they see you're alone.
Great way to empty the servers, make new players leave because they get harassed by groups.
Martiner what I'm trying to say is that there are active groups on the server that are dedicated to keep people safe from any harm. Plus, like orky12 said, what possible can you take from a new player?
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Thanks for the tip, now when a CP busts me in the city, I'll just run and say it's perfectly valid RP.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Running should only be done from a distance.
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Due to the current state of the server, people would turn to mugging. I've actually been rejected from entering an outpost when a Hunter-Chopper was chasing me. When I asked to come in, they said I was just a dumb refugee or something like that. So if my character is rejected by the resistance, he will do what he needs to survive. It may not canon or whatever, but in reality when your treated like shit and made an outcast, you will do anything to survive.
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issue is that muggers dont go after anyone armed or in groups, only newbies who cant defend themselves.
OHAI IM NEW, MIND HELPING ME?
GIVE ME ALL YOUR ITEMS OR DIE HURR HURR
LOLOLOL I KILL YOU NOW
requesting pk on whathisface
whathisface has left the server. forever
this is hl2dm, there is no rp
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Of course you wouldn't mug anybody in a group, that would just be plain stupid. You go for the weak, isolated people.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Thanks for the tip, now when a CP busts me in the city, I'll just run and say it's perfectly valid RP.
inb4 this isnt involved with the city server. Thanks for being a complete and utter retard kthxbai.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Thanks for the tip, now when a CP busts me in the city, I'll just run and say it's perfectly valid RP.
inb4 this isnt involved with the city server. Thanks for being a complete and utter retard kthxbai.
Isn't this like saying you can S2K the OTA because they are shooting at you and trying to kill you? It's the same concept.
So next time I see a combine, I will headshot that fucker, because it's perfectly valid RP.
Oh, and thanks for the tip.
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Thanks for the tip, now when a CP busts me in the city, I'll just run and say it's perfectly valid RP.
inb4 this isnt involved with the city server. Thanks for being a complete and utter retard kthxbai.
Isn't this like saying you can S2K the OTA because they are shooting at you and trying to kill you? It's the same concept.
So next time I see a combine, I will headshot that fucker, because it's perfectly valid RP.
Oh, and thanks for the tip.
How did this thread come to S2K'ing the OTA?
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Mugging should be allowed, its a part of life and thats a fact. It should stay that way.
You do have a point but often in life people dont stay and be mugged they ussually run like hell, So basically if someone runs away during a mugging its perfectly valid rp.
Thanks for the tip, now when a CP busts me in the city, I'll just run and say it's perfectly valid RP.
inb4 this isnt involved with the city server. Thanks for being a complete and utter retard kthxbai.
Isn't this like saying you can S2K the OTA because they are shooting at you and trying to kill you? It's the same concept.
So next time I see a combine, I will headshot that fucker, because it's perfectly valid RP.
Oh, and thanks for the tip.
How did this thread come to S2K'ing the OTA?
Because mugging is horseshit in Outlands but the hurr durr admins are allowing this abomination of canon anyhow.
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hl2dm, also known as outlands, is full of crap already, with any hint of hl2 being gone, other than combines and their weapons
combine get headshots across map with smg's and such, they say its fine
rdm is allowed, more or less.
people are pk'd because a minge wants it.
everything is shoot on sight, even when its refugee and refugee. its come to "if you dont know him, tis a mugger. shoot immediately without remorse"
if you are new, you cannot join, or you will be rdm'd multiple times by "muggers" demanding all your ammo. when you dont even have bleach.
When muggers kill you for talking or replying to them, or not giving ammo when you dont even have bleach, and then it turn PK... well, its a dm
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It's funny how a lot of you who are bitching are barely on the outlands server therefor unable to make this conclusion especially if it's only been up for less than a week.
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Yeah, honestly. Rofl specified the thing about mugging, so stop whinning and bumping this thread. Mugging will be had. Dealwithit somewhere else.
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Yeah, honestly. Rofl specified the thing about mugging, so stop whinning and bumping this thread. Mugging will be had. Dealwithit somewhere else.
View it from the eyes of a new player, if I dis not know better I'd think it's a version of OCRP with slightly better role-players. So what if a community owner says it's alright that doesn't change canon.
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Alright if mugging is DONE RIGHT as you CAN be talked down its fine Like I was getting mugged after I was shot in the leg I had NOTHING on me so I talked the man down and he gave me my backpack left and didn't even want to take my radio.
If you RP that you have a heart its fine but if you are just a hardass that like "Lolno" Then you shouldn't be allowed you should only be mugging if you NEED food/medical supply's Not any other kind of shit like ammo.
Also RP that you DON'T want to blow his head off I mean come on your killing a HUMAN Not a combine you regret it for the rest of your life doing it and you don't want that.
Also the mugger and I are considered friends I got him a radio and food.
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Alright if mugging is DONE RIGHT as you CAN be talked down its fine Like I was getting mugged after I was shot in the leg I had NOTHING on me so I talked the man down and he gave me my backpack left and didn't even want to take my radio.
If you RP that you have a heart its fine but if you are just a hardass that like "Lolno" Then you shouldn't be allowed you should only be mugging if you NEED food/medical supply's Not any other kind of shit like ammo.
Also RP that you DON'T want to blow his head off I mean come on your killing a HUMAN Not a combine you regret it for the rest of your life doing it and you don't want that.
Also the mugger and I are considered friends I got him a radio and food.
100% Agree.
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Bobbe, That guys says it's perfectly reasonable to minge run away when being mugged, because your first reaction is to run.
That is also like saying you can S2K Combine shooting at you, because your first reaction would be to shoot back.
And for Flare... How is it an abomanation to canon? We're talking about motherfucking humans here, with free-fucking-will.
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Alright if mugging is DONE RIGHT as you CAN be talked down its fine Like I was getting mugged after I was shot in the leg I had NOTHING on me so I talked the man down and he gave me my backpack left and didn't even want to take my radio.
If you RP that you have a heart its fine but if you are just a hardass that like "Lolno" Then you shouldn't be allowed you should only be mugging if you NEED food/medical supply's Not any other kind of shit like ammo.
Also RP that you DON'T want to blow his head off I mean come on your killing a HUMAN Not a combine you regret it for the rest of your life doing it and you don't want that.
Also the mugger and I are considered friends I got him a radio and food.
i agree. im not saying mugging shouldnt be allowed, but the rules for it are so lax, that it is worse than ocdm when someone mugs you
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Mugging...Yeah, no matter what humans never change. There are people who work for stuff, and people who beat it out of you. If you went to the Outlands its going to happen, it should be allowed. NOT allowing it is strapping down RP. I mean, look at today, we can get stuff just fine, and people mug. People barely survive there, there is going to be a LOT of mugging and fighting for food and such.
Basicly, Allow it and get over it.
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People who play OCRP raise your hands *Everyone who wants mugging.* Now we know why “mugging” has came into the question. Firstly, it may be human nature, but to have gone through the event of the portal storms and over 90% of the world’s population getting annihilated I think we would have changed a little? I would also like to state the fact that everyone in the outlands have been in the city and have undergone mind washing and vigorous mental adjustments , which in turn removes those intentions from the brain. I would also like to mention that everyone is scared, underfed, mal-nourished, brittle and simply exhausted. You do not have the strength to physically hold up someone, and guns SHOULD be a very difficult thing to obtain rather than the lolbandit gangs running around with 50 weapons on them each.
Anything that relates to OCRP that is in turn combined with HL2RP is going to be fail, because the majority players of that game mode simply do not understand the concepts of serious RP, no matter how hard they try to argue the fact. To ensure the survival of the standards of RP today, mugging and various other Minge forms of RP ideas need to be removed or it will destroy the little amount of professionalism in HL2RP our citizens/refugees currently hold. I’ve observed many players and I say around 10% of the things they were doing was good RP, rather to the other 90% in which some players RPed having sex and other forms of it, including rape etc.
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People who play OCRP raise your hands *Everyone who wants mugging.* Now we know why “mugging” has came into the question. Firstly, it may be human nature, but to have gone through the event of the portal storms and over 90% of the world’s population getting annihilated I think we would have changed a little? I would also like to state the fact that everyone in the outlands have been in the city and have undergone mind washing and vigorous mental adjustments , which in turn removes those intentions from the brain. I would also like to mention that everyone is scared, underfed, mal-nourished, brittle and simply exhausted. You do not have the strength to physically hold up someone, and guns SHOULD be a very difficult thing to obtain rather than the lolbandit gangs running around with 50 weapons on them each.
Anything that relates to OCRP that is in turn combined with HL2RP is going to be fail, because the majority players of that game mode simply do not understand the concepts of serious RP, no matter how hard they try to argue the fact. To ensure the survival of the standards of RP today, mugging and various other Minge forms of RP ideas need to be removed or it will destroy the little amount of professionalism in HL2RP our citizens/refugees currently hold. I’ve observed many players and I say around 10% of the things they were doing was good RP, rather to the other 90% in which some players RPed having sex and other forms of it, including rape etc.
I have to agree, OCRP and HL2RP (IF COMBINED PLAYERBASE) will equate to absolute shit.
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Skeptik seems to be the only one who is against mugging that can make a good point.
Though, nevertheless, mugging is allowed.
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Lol despite his argument, Skeptik's points were still invalid, and he appears to have not read the statement I made earlier explaining all of this.
But please people, shut up already, mugging is allowed, deal with it. Stop complaining and bumping this thread.
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Lol despite his argument, Skeptik's points were still invalid, and he appears to have not read the statement I made earlier explaining all of this.
But please people, shut up already, mugging is allowed, deal with it. Stop complaining and bumping this thread.
Mugger:Ergh! Give me ya bleach or i will shot you in the head!
Victim: Dude I dont have any bleach or anything I just joined.
Mugger: Let me search ya inventory!
Victim: Why, I already told you!
*Mingeties the victim
*Takes the victims suitcase and tokens
Mugger: You lied to me!
[looc]Victim: Im new to the server.
[looc]Mugger: I dont care! Fuck off if you dont like it.
*Mugger shoots the victim in the head without any rp.
Victim has disconnected from the server
(OOC)Mugger: lol minge disconnected what a noob.
(OOC)Mugger: And I got all his items :).
That's how I feel about how the muggers effect the newer players.
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Lol despite his argument, Skeptik's points were still invalid, and he appears to have not read the statement I made earlier explaining all of this.
But please people, shut up already, mugging is allowed, deal with it. Stop complaining and bumping this thread.
Mugger:Ergh! Give me ya bleach or i will shot you in the head!
Victim: Dude I dont have any bleach or anything I just joined.
Mugger: Let me search ya inventory!
Victim: Why, I already told you!
*Mingeties the victim
*Takes the victims suitcase and tokens
Mugger: You lied to me!
[looc]Victim: Im new to the server.
[looc]Mugger: I dont care! Fuck off if you dont like it.
*Mugger shoots the victim in the head without any rp.
Victim has disconnected from the server
(OOC)Mugger: lol minge disconnected what a noob.
(OOC)Mugger: And I got all his items :).
That's how I feel about how the muggers effect the newer players.
What kind of minges do you play with?
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Lol despite his argument, Skeptik's points were still invalid, and he appears to have not read the statement I made earlier explaining all of this.
But please people, shut up already, mugging is allowed, deal with it. Stop complaining and bumping this thread.
Mugger:Ergh! Give me ya bleach or i will shot you in the head!
Victim: Dude I dont have any bleach or anything I just joined.
Mugger: Let me search ya inventory!
Victim: Why, I already told you!
*Mingeties the victim
*Takes the victims suitcase and tokens
Mugger: You lied to me!
[looc]Victim: Im new to the server.
[looc]Mugger: I dont care! Fuck off if you dont like it.
*Mugger shoots the victim in the head without any rp.
Victim has disconnected from the server
(OOC)Mugger: lol minge disconnected what a noob.
(OOC)Mugger: And I got all his items :).
That's how I feel about how the muggers effect the newer players.
What kind of minges do you play with?
The minge kind. All of them
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In Outlands, this would work - in the City server, not so much.
Protection and security in the cities are terribly high, there are scanners everywhere. Doubt anybody would get away with it considering you're looking at it from a canon point of view.
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I think mugging should be allowed if, if members are at least a week old (optional) but void if they hurt someone. Also, citizens have a method of self defense (like fists that can actually punch).
Otherwise, mugging right now is throwing someone off a bridge and looting them... ;D
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I think mugging should be allowed if, if members are at least a week old (optional) but void if they hurt someone. Also, citizens have a method of self defense (like fists that can actually punch).
Otherwise, mugging right now is throwing someone off a bridge and looting them... ;D
This thread was pretty much closed as soon as it opened and it's be vacant for 19 days. I see no more reason to keep it open and I'm locking it to avoid future necroing from occuring.