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Title: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 01:04:30 AM
Yesterday I was told to transport a bomb. There was a bomb reported in the slums, at the moment i was in surgery removing bullets from 155, And suddenly a recruit knows how to defuse a bomb. After the surgery, I suited up in my Hazard suit. Then I was ordered to take the defused bomb into the nexus, so I placed it in a box that was lined in soft cloth, the i Proceeded to put it on a cart and take it inside. we placed it group detainment so nobody could tamper with it, After 3 minutes of it being in there 117 just told us to move it. and thats when the DvL of APEX ordered for it to be taken to the RDT, Then somehow it becomes active again and GRID 009 tried to defuse it but it exploded.

Now I 894 do not understand why I am taking a PK for this it is unacceptable I was only following orders ic'ly it was defused then it was voided i guess i have no idea then all of sudden theres an armed bomb and its my fault. Feel free to respond to this I feel wronged in this situation and after being CP since the 1st cycle or 3+ months i feel this shouldnt be happening.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Statua on July 21, 2011, 01:12:25 AM
In order o be PK'd you require auths from an admin not involved in the situation. Currently, I don't authorize it.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Bromine on July 21, 2011, 03:04:09 AM
I support his un-PK, seeming what this is, since he's really worked to his position, and a recruit, a civvy in a suiit, knowing how to defuse a bomb is unlikely. VERY unlikely.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: ??. McBullet on July 21, 2011, 04:31:00 AM
Who could have possibly ordered you to take a bomb to the Nexus?
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: BltElite on July 21, 2011, 04:48:22 AM
I never ordered you to take it to nexus. RDT? Yeah i told you take it to RDT.


Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 04:56:05 AM
Regardless of how long he has had this unit, it's an IC secruity breach of the nexus. Risking everyones lives inside, including the sectorial commander. Three C4's strapped with HE grenades is enough to level the fucking nexus, and inturn this is a very serious matter. Now I understand your issue here but you should have came to turns with responcibilty you have as a unit of the CCA. However, you and two other units have been serverly punished for this and quite possibly blt may recieve punishment aswell depending on how BB chooses.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on July 21, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
Besides the fact that he was ordered to take it to nexus?
I was there and I saw the whole thing.
He was ordered to take it to nexus due to the fact that "The group cell is bomb proof and would with stand this" I don't remember who it was but if 182 Didn't give the order it was 040.. He was the only other OfC there at the time.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 10:03:19 AM
Who has ever said "The group detainment cell is bomb proof for shits and gigs." Have you not seen the radius of the explosion of C4? Take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABmLd-JfDeU
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: BltElite on July 21, 2011, 10:05:58 AM
Who has ever said "The group detainment cell is bomb proof for shits and gigs." Have you not seen the radius of the explosion of C4? Take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABmLd-JfDeU

This is an Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD). The C4 is detonating a weapon cache. That's why the explosion is so big.


GG
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 10:36:25 AM
Who has ever said "The group detainment cell is bomb proof for shits and gigs." Have you not seen the radius of the explosion of C4? Take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABmLd-JfDeU
First of all the C4 brick the size of it was the very small and the way the bomb was wired the grenades pins could not be pulled and it was a unarmed bomb with no external detonator attached.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 10:41:08 AM
Who could have possibly ordered you to take a bomb to the Nexus?
All I remember is coming out of surgery and moving a DEFUSED bomb to the nexus.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Pirate Robot on July 21, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
This sound's really unfair, he only just made Ofc...
And now he's getting PK'ed, fucking joke...


I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: BltElite on July 21, 2011, 11:00:09 AM
I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Nobody is immune to pk.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 11:06:20 AM
I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Nobody is immune to pk.
Did you ever hear about Skeptik attempting murder of a Recruit, If that is going to be voided why isnt what bullshit happened to me being voided? hmm do I smell a little favoritism? Pretty sure attempted Murders is a level 1 verdict Skeptik, Why would 993 have to take a fall even when you are in the wrong.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 11:18:50 AM
I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Nobody is immune to pk.
Did you ever hear about Skeptik attempting murder of a Recruit, If that is going to be voided why isnt what bullshit happened to me being voided? hmm do I smell a little favoritism? Pretty sure attempted Murders is a level 1 verdict Skeptik, Why would 993 have to take a fall even when you are in the wrong.
That was OOC matters brought into IC, you roleplayed everything. And made the mistake of breaching nexus security.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on July 21, 2011, 11:23:06 AM
I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Nobody is immune to pk.
Did you ever hear about Skeptik attempting murder of a Recruit, If that is going to be voided why isnt what bullshit happened to me being voided? hmm do I smell a little favoritism? Pretty sure attempted Murders is a level 1 verdict Skeptik, Why would 993 have to take a fall even when you are in the wrong.
That was OOC matters brought into IC, you roleplayed everything. And made the mistake of breaching nexus security.
Yet even then he wasn't told that the defusing was VOIDed.
If thats the case then what happened with 993 you and I should be voided as well because he had to do with the disarming of that bomb.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Statua on July 21, 2011, 11:34:58 AM
Still need an admin not involved to authorize the PK. By the sounds of it, whoever told him to move it to the nexus wanted him to get in shit. It had to be a DvL. That's sad. Just sad.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Scratchie on July 21, 2011, 11:49:12 AM
I wanna know who told him that.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
BB as the sectorial commander ordered the PK, thus another admin. Two units, have already faced there punishments and penguin as the delivery had faced his. I don't believe penguin was ordered to bring the bombs to the nexus however he was ordered after I had told him to get it out of my sight, to move them to RDT.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: ??. McBullet on July 21, 2011, 02:42:28 PM
This brings me back to my original question. WHO ORDERED THAT A HUGE-ASS BOMB should be brought to THE NEXUS, WHERE I AM?
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Nuke on July 21, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
This brings me back to my original question. WHO ORDERED THAT A HUGE-ASS BOMB should be brought to THE NEXUS, WHERE I AM?

Well I came on at the end of the rp and the highest ranking officer was a DVL but I can't remember the number sorry.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on July 21, 2011, 02:49:24 PM
My propisition: Stop the damn bombs. Every time we have a 51B threat, crap always happens, stuff gets voided, everyone is confused, no one knows what to do or is going on, were hauling the bomb everywhere over C8. Just stop.

Also, Penguin was just following orders.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Nuke on July 21, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
You know the best way to find out.

You start crewing people ass out.

You start with the DvL and give them there ass on a plate. Then you move down to the OfC and rearrange there faces and so on and so on until you find out what the hell happen and make sure those that lead to the bomb going into the nexus is sent off world after you have your private " Talk " with them.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 04:41:15 PM
I thought OFC were immune to PK?
Nobody is immune to pk.
Did you ever hear about Skeptik attempting murder of a Recruit, If that is going to be voided why isnt what bullshit happened to me being voided? hmm do I smell a little favoritism? Pretty sure attempted Murders is a level 1 verdict Skeptik, Why would 993 have to take a fall even when you are in the wrong.
That was OOC matters brought into IC, you roleplayed everything. And made the mistake of breaching nexus security.
1 bringing OOC to IC is called meta game dipshit.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: ??. McBullet on July 21, 2011, 04:43:56 PM
Unless you can find whoever ordered you to bring a bomb into the Nexus and get proof/confession, you are still in heavy violation of CCA protocol.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 04:46:24 PM
Unless you can find whoever ordered you to bring a bomb into the Nexus and get proof/confession, you are still in heavy violation of CCA protocol.
What about Skeptik's little attempt to kill a unit that just gets overlooked because you like him, excuse me but that is complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on July 21, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Shouldn't have been PKed for the reasons statua stated.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 04:56:43 PM
Shouldn't have been PKed for the reasons statua stated.
Thank you rofl, During the event almost all of High Command were online I would suggest questioning them but of course nobody will step up and take the blame, I myself am not happy with the results of Skeptik getting off without a warning when it took two Units with guns drawn to stop him, It's actually a act of insubordination as the unit was not in his division thus making it even more severe as he did not have authorization from the units division to even threaten the unit with amputation.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: BltElite on July 21, 2011, 05:10:25 PM
Couldn't of been a dvl, the 3 of us on were doing a sewers sweep alongside burning on his 01
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: ??. McBullet on July 21, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
The only thing keeping you from being unPK'd (in my opinion) is the issue of WHO ORDERED YOU to take the bomb inside the Nexus.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on July 21, 2011, 06:53:12 PM
The only thing keeping you from being unPK'd (in my opinion) is the issue of WHO ORDERED YOU to take the bomb inside the Nexus.
When the order was issued I there were two OfCs(him and one other) and DvL 182 I think.
The order WAS an OfC it was POINTED at another unit and 894 carried it out.
So who was the other OfC?
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 07:31:54 PM
The only thing keeping you from being unPK'd (in my opinion) is the issue of WHO ORDERED YOU to take the bomb inside the Nexus.
Sorry not to be rude but there should be no pk on me until mutually agreed by an admin not involved and that decision is backed by rofl.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 09:12:06 PM
Why does it need to be packed by more than myself and BB? You fucked up, so did I a while back. But regardless even IF ordered you still brought the bombs into nexus, thus risking the SeC's life because of your stupidity. You and the DvL/OfC if caught should be and most likely will be PKed.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 09:18:15 PM
Why does it need to be packed by more than myself and BB? You fucked up, so did I a while back. But regardless even IF ordered you still brought the bombs into nexus, thus risking the SeC's life because of your stupidity. You and the DvL/OfC if caught should be and most likely will be PKed.
Butt out, thank you what rofl says goes, Also nobody wanted you back, People on the server actually enjoy having me on and my roleplaying abilitys. They remember you as the guy who kills croots, They look at me and say thats the guy who is fun to roleplay with and is nice and considerate to others.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Kevin on July 21, 2011, 09:21:02 PM
This sound's really unfair, he only just made Ofc...
And now he's getting PK'ed, fucking joke...


I thought OFC were immune to PK?

He is not OfC, I am. He is acting OfC for the next month. When I get back I am regaining my position.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
Why does it need to be packed by more than myself and BB? You fucked up, so did I a while back. But regardless even IF ordered you still brought the bombs into nexus, thus risking the SeC's life because of your stupidity. You and the DvL/OfC if caught should be and most likely will be PKed.
You obviously havent been in the detainment rooms that much, The walls are feet thick steel filled combine material, I really doubt a small ordanance of C4 witch once again defused, Will even break through the steel it will and cannot level a whole Nexus, inb4 A small ordanance levels a steel building
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Statua on July 21, 2011, 10:01:57 PM
Stop attacking each other. All this has turned into was a shitfest. Really, if a higher rank tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't, you get in shit for subordination. HOWEVER! If that higher rank tells you to do something stupid, you should be left alone and the high rank should be punished. Final verdict? Penguin was doing as ordered. Punishing him would be fucking retarded cause if he didn't follow orders, he'd be in shit.

Whoever told him to move the bomb into the nexus should face stripping of a leading position due to the lack of crucial decision making skills. Punishing penguin for his actions proves YOU lack decision making skills. Think critically please.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on July 21, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
The issue is that we don't know who ordered it.
The order went to the two/three 04s/croots in the area but the only OfC that was really doing any thing that I can remember is again 894.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: SkeptiK on July 21, 2011, 10:13:15 PM
The issue is that we don't know who ordered it.
The order went to the two/three 04s/croots in the area but the only OfC that was really doing any thing that I can remember is again 894.
like BB has said unless evidence of the order he could be lying to get out of the shit.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 21, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
The issue is that we don't know who ordered it.
The order went to the two/three 04s/croots in the area but the only OfC that was really doing any thing that I can remember is again 894.
like BB has said unless evidence of the order he could be lying to get out of the shit.
Really and jeopardize my whole CCA career if I was the one who did it I would fess up and people would say im the on who did it, But really your being an asshat you should be amputated for attempted murder of a unit so GTFO.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Scratchie on July 21, 2011, 10:47:20 PM
Quit the flamefest. This will be looked into. For the meantime this will be locked.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Scratchie on July 22, 2011, 02:38:38 AM
Logs prove that the entire decision was all on Penguin.

Quote from: Server Logs
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:19: CCA.C8-NOVA-OfC(A).894 has used '/Radio 117,Sir? May I request a Judgement Waiver? We have a bomb and need a safe transport to nexus and search the citizens -'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:21: "Lo?ke_skonken<1283><STEAM_0:1:20690416><>" entered the game
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:26: CCA.C8-UNIFORM-RCT.979 has used '/Radio I have a man here, saying he saw a murder. We seached him and found lots of level 3 contraband and an audio violation-'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:30: CCA.C8-NOVA-DvL.117 has used '/Admin Anways soz guys for the joke in event, my first and last time I will do it :D'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:35: CCA.C8-UNIFORM-DvL.747 has used '/StorageClose'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:36: CCA.C8-UNIFORM-RCT.990 has used '/Radio Woah...'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:37: CCA.C8-APEX-01.407 has used '/InvAction ammo_pistol use'.
L 07/19/2011 - 13:07:38: CCA.C8-NOVA-OfC(A).894 has used '/Radio - for possible alocations with the ordeal.'.

------ Three minutes later with no reply from 117 ------

L 07/19/2011 - 13:10:32: CCA.C8-NOVA-OfC(A).894 has used '/Radio Judgemnet Waiver inbound. All citizens need to be in a secure building.'.

Auths do not allow officers to initiate judgement waivers.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: BltElite on July 22, 2011, 03:26:22 AM
Actually, when i got on scene, he asked me if he could initiate  a lockdown to get the bomb moved somewhere more safe, to which I agreed to, not knowing where. I then went off with 117, 747 and bb on his apex 01 to do a sewers sweep.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Retro on July 22, 2011, 04:50:21 AM
It's a game guys, you've gotta' remember this, So If you're PK'd, Don't have a cry, Deal with it and move on. Just a game.

Stay classy San Diego.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 22, 2011, 09:59:57 AM
Anyway besides that order I was allowed to move it. 1 It was defused 2 it was big at all 3 The explosion wouldn't have made it out of the nexus group detainment cell. 4 It was in the nexus for 3 minutes anyway. 4 It was completely stable 5 I was told by APEX DvL to take it to the RDT which I shouldn't get in trouble for.6 A unit named 009 apparently said it came back on and cut both wires making an explosion.I am pretty sure 009 is BB.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Bromine on July 22, 2011, 10:20:14 AM
009 is BB's troll character. If he didn't RP so well with it I would practically void the stupidity.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 22, 2011, 10:24:21 AM
It's a game guys, you've gotta' remember this, So If you're PK'd, Don't have a cry, Deal with it and move on. Just a game.

Stay classy San Diego.
Thanks for the pointless input, Anyhow BB told me it was voided last night till further notification about the event.

I think the whole bomb rp situation should be voided as there is no way a civi could get the materials for this and it actually work with little to no bomb wiring experience.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: ??. McBullet on July 22, 2011, 01:20:09 PM
It's not being voided (by me anyway) now that RTLK posted the logs stating that it was all on you bringing the bombs into Nexus. The part 009 had in it had nothing to do with the Nexus bomb. That was the RDC bomb. You're still in trouble for bringing the bombs into Nexus. I would have amputated anyone for doing that regardless. Unless another administrator disagrees, as an administrator not directly involved in the Nexus-bomb incident (was told later) I am not voiding the PK.

Now that that is said, let's talk about the RDC mishap. The character, 009, was GRID, and did have some knowledge about diffusing bombs. No, he is not a troll character, but one I made to explore the other possible aspects of a low-ranked CP's personality. 009 does have a sense of humor and is a little more silly than the other CP's, but he is a legitimate character to see how much fun one can have while legitimately roleplaying a completely human CCA unit. Karma did the /it that had the bomb start ticking again. 009 failed to diffuse it. 009 is dead.

Penguin, I am not holding anything related to the RDC bomb against you as the RP was extremely controversial and I was involved in that one. However, I think that the PK should stand as the Nexus bomb was all on you.
Title: Re: Very confused on why im being blamed
Post by: Penguin on July 22, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
It's not being voided (by me anyway) now that RTLK posted the logs stating that it was all on you bringing the bombs into Nexus. The part 009 had in it had nothing to do with the Nexus bomb. That was the RDC bomb. You're still in trouble for bringing the bombs into Nexus. I would have amputated anyone for doing that regardless. Unless another administrator disagrees, as an administrator not directly involved in the Nexus-bomb incident (was told later) I am not voiding the PK.

Now that that is said, let's talk about the RDC mishap. The character, 009, was GRID, and did have some knowledge about diffusing bombs. No, he is not a troll character, but one I made to explore the other possible aspects of a low-ranked CP's personality. 009 does have a sense of humor and is a little more silly than the other CP's, but he is a legitimate character to see how much fun one can have while legitimately roleplaying a completely human CCA unit. Karma did the /it that had the bomb start ticking again. 009 failed to diffuse it. 009 is dead.

Penguin, I am not holding anything related to the RDC bomb against you as the RP was extremely controversial and I was involved in that one. However, I think that the PK should stand as the Nexus bomb was all on you.
This incident will most likely conclude my presence on the HL2RP server as it is kind of tiresome putting up with people, I know that a lot of players had a great time rp'ing with me and I am sure I will be missed, Even though I think this whole event should have been voided as the bomb was not a threat at all, I still like some of you guys and I hope skeptik is dealed with for his attempted murder that everyone always seems to overlook,
Its been real,
Teh Penguin9
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