Catalyst Gaming
Backup Sections => Archive => HL2RP Development[ARCHIVE] => 
Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Topic started by: chunkeymonkey79 on June 18, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
-
Why? Just why? There isn't even a good reason for so many people to form a resistance or even mention the word resist. "oh well hurr durr da combine are mean, dey hardy give us rashuns" It's your own damn fault for asking for them in OOC.
Now. Think about this. Think about the CP's in the opening of HL2. They are horrible to the citizens, randomly beating them, searching them, and dragging them off, never to be seen again. Now think about what we do in HL2RP. It isn't EVEN CLOSE to what the CP's in HL2 do. If the UU were to do an inspection of C45, we would have a nuke dropped on us because we actually treat you okay.
So that's why I wonder if there is really a IC and OOC reason to resist. We can be jerks sometimes, but that's about the extent. However, if you really, really, really want us to, we can switch to the CP's in HL2, beating you, searching you, and killing you for no reason at all. We can be extremely hard on you citizens.
(and believe it, you will be interrogated for walking in a group, just like in HL2.)
-
Yes please. I want, REALLY WANT, to be interogated for being in a group. That would be epic RP! I hope the CCA get tougher.
-
I am a strict CCA and have been told off for it OOCly and blackmarked for it.
-
We aren't allowed to be strict as CCA. Most people are either CCA or lolrebels, as most don't know how to be a normal citizen. Its actually quite hard, as your either a cca, a loyalist, a cwu, or a lolrebel. I never really see REAL rebels around these days.
-
We aren't allowed to be strict as CCA. Most people are either CCA or lolrebels, as most don't know how to be a normal citizen. Its actually quite hard, as your either a cca, a loyalist, a cwu, or a lolrebel. I never really see REAL rebels around these days.
Impossibly hard.
You NEED an organized Resistance for that, but that will never happen on this server. I'm not to sure why, works unbelievably well on other servers.
-
I never really see the REAL rebels around these days.
Exactly. . .
-
To be fair there are a fair rebels out there. But no one knows of them because those few RP it very well and don't just go "LOL I WEBLE I HITZ DA CPZ AND I HELP GET RIDZ OF EM" They actually try to stay low, undetected and try to find a way to group up without arousing suspicion from the combine, CWU, loyalists or citizens (and there are a FEW) Its not an easy thing to rp at all but there are a few rebels out there doing it correctly and trying to do it correctly and well. Its just not easy and they get a bad name because of the lolrebel.
-
To be fair there are a fair rebels out there. But no one knows of them because those few RP it very well and don't just go "LOL I WEBLE I HITZ DA CPZ AND I HELP GET RIDZ OF EM" They actually try to stay low, undetected and try to find a way to group up without arousing suspicion from the combine, CWU, loyalists or citizens (and there are a FEW) Its not an easy thing to rp at all but there are a few rebels out there doing it correctly and trying to do it correctly and well. Its just not easy and they get a bad name because of the lolrebel.
My gun shot wound as cristina has me locked in my apartment most of the time now... It has lead to some really good passive RP.
-
YES PLEASE! Be as hard as the CPs in HL2 I BEG YOU
-
Why? Just why? There isn't even a good reason for so many people to form a resistance or even mention the word resist. "oh well hurr durr da combine are mean, dey hardy give us rashuns" It's your own damn fault for asking for them in OOC.
Now. Think about this. Think about the CP's in the opening of HL2. They are horrible to the citizens, randomly beating them, searching them, and dragging them off, never to be seen again. Now think about what we do in HL2RP. It isn't EVEN CLOSE to what the CP's in HL2 do. If the UU were to do an inspection of C45, we would have a nuke dropped on us because we actually treat you okay.
So that's why I wonder if there is really a IC and OOC reason to resist. We can be jerks sometimes, but that's about the extent. However, if you really, really, really want us to, we can switch to the CP's in HL2, beating you, searching you, and killing you for no reason at all. We can be extremely hard on you citizens.
(and believe it, you will be interrogated for walking in a group, just like in HL2.)
There is a good reason to resist. It adds to the RP experience, it makes RP that much more appealing to the player. That's what RP is supposed to do, make it fun and exciting to play that role, and I'm not talking about those lolrebels (the mingebags who go around saying "hey lets kill sum cp lol").
I'm talking about the real rebels. The ones who plot, the ones who actually play that role. There are many reasons to resist. Such as, take your country back, fight for your rights, restore liberty, defend yourself and your fellow citizens, avenge lost family members, etc.
My character is a rebel, and there's more of us joining the ranks everyday. So please, don't say there aren't any reasons to resist, because there are plenty of them.
-
Their may be reasons to resist but you need to remember the amount of control the civil protection have over you. To even speak of it leaves you and your friends/family at risk, let alone act on it. The city is a very, very contained environment and you need to understand to "rebel" is a suicidal act. I cannot stress it enough to the people who think "rebelling" is a good thing, because it's not... It's only going to cause more harm than good to you and your fellow citizens, as the bare amount of food you receive now is more then likely going to be decreased.
Survival in the city is based on submitting to the combine, and that's just how people get through everyday. That doesn't mean you have to but you shouldn't go "Let's go shot cop some CP." all factors need to be taken into consideration.
-
The best rebels aren't known, OOC or IC.
ICly proper "rebels" would NEVER go into the city, they'd just use anti citizens or trustworthy citizens to smuggles supplys in, proper "rebels" wouldn't walk around with 9mms and shotguns, even in the outer districts like D2.
-
The CPs are told to be strict, but also act as mean as they want to the Citizens. CPs are like "OK I B SOOPR MEEN" but what happens is all they do is push a Citizen on the ground or make them pick up a can... Think about the CP that made Gordon pick up the can. Notice how the CP Officer knocked over the can, but then says "You knocked it over. You pick it up." This is what we need to e doing people.
-
The CPs are told to be strict, but also act as mean as they want to the Citizens. CPs are like "OK I B SOOPR MEEN" but what happens is all they do is push a Citizen on the ground or make them pick up a can... Think about the CP that made Gordon pick up the can. Notice how the CP Officer knocked over the can, but then says "You knocked it over. You pick it up." This is what we need to e doing people.
It may be the most canon thing in the world, but I'm not doing it if it's not fun and that doesn't sound fun [for the citizen].
-
The best rebels aren't known, OOC or IC.
ICly proper "rebels" would NEVER go into the city, they'd just use anti citizens or trustworthy citizens to smuggles supplys in, proper "rebels" wouldn't walk around with 9mms and shotguns, even in the outer districts like D2.
The Rebel character I have is just a man plotting and doing passive operations. That's what a Rebel, you know, is, especially in a city controlled by the Combine. They're like the KGB, they are there, but you don't know, and they complete operations by being a sneaky as possible (and in this server, not killing anyone.) We don't kill Combine or any of that shit. We just plot, and do minor ops that don't kill CP or anyone else. Just get the word out that we're here. That's what a Rebel is in C18.
-
The best rebels aren't known, OOC or IC.
ICly proper "rebels" would NEVER go into the city, they'd just use anti citizens or trustworthy citizens to smuggles supplys in, proper "rebels" wouldn't walk around with 9mms and shotguns, even in the outer districts like D2.
Thats why theres going to be an outlands server
-
Why do people resist? No becuase the combine is mean no no.. They only murdered billions of people (women and children too) And they'll kill you for the slightest reason!
EDIT: An outlands server? Thats fucking stupid how can you help people in the City when your on a different Server? Have an area of the map that is the outlands
-
The admins said they are going to release an outlands server. D2 does not count as outlands, dumbass. D2 counts as canals, Outlands is where antlions and vortigaunts are, and where the Lambda Movement is.
-
The Lambda movement and Vortigaunts all exist in the canals. . .if you don't believe me play the first couple chapters of HL2. An official Lambda Movement group would not be hard to establish, believe it or not, there is actually some idea as to their organization, etc. Go to combine overwiki, to the resistance article.
-
I know how to set it up and do it well. I have on another server. I sent a message to Rofl but no reply as he is always so busy and gets loads of messages. Its not hard to set up and ensure that only the best roleplayers get in. We just need things set up which we need rofl for.
-
I personally don't give a shit about an Outlands server, I'm sticking with my UCA unit. You all can go out and derp around on the beach if you want.
-
Cee Pee beach party.
Best. Vacation. Ever.
-
Wanna hear my verdict?
DISCLAIMER: The following profain words are not flaming, more of get the point across and etch the importance of it in your minds.
UCA: Youre not a cop. You're a fucking civil protection officer who is supposed to keep things running smoothly. Any idiot on the street must be dealt with in a mannar that will make him/her remember who's in charge. What is this? Cadet Camp?
Citizens: Stop being little bitches and suck it up. If you're dumb enough to jump on the garbage can, you can expect that your ass will be beaten. Don't like it? Don't be such an idiot. Bored? Learn to passive rp. If done properly, it's not as boring as you think.
Rebels: Guns are not for badassary or showing who's boss. They're to protect you from harm. You usually don't need them if you don't have a big base. Refugees should NEVER have guns. They're not geurilla resistance members. They're escapees. Also, if you think creating a rebel group will get you respect, think again. You get ONE idiot in your group and all respect for your group is gone.
-
Wanna hear my verdict?
DISCLAIMER: The following profain words are not flaming, more of get the point across and etch the importance of it in your minds.
UCA: Youre not a cop. You're a fucking civil protection officer who is supposed to keep things running smoothly. Any idiot on the street must be dealt with in a mannar that will make him/her remember who's in charge. What is this? Cadet Camp?
Citizens: Stop being little bitches and suck it up. If you're dumb enough to jump on the garbage can, you can expect that your ass will be beaten. Don't like it? Don't be such an idiot. Bored? Learn to passive rp. If done properly, it's not as boring as you think.
Rebels: Guns are not for badassary or showing who's boss. They're to protect you from harm. You usually don't need them if you don't have a big base. Refugees should NEVER have guns. They're not geurilla resistance members. They're escapees. Also, if you think creating a rebel group will get you respect, think again. You get ONE idiot in your group and all respect for your group is gone.
Agreed, Statua.
-
Wanna hear my verdict?
DISCLAIMER: The following profain words are not flaming, more of get the point across and etch the importance of it in your minds.
UCA: Youre not a cop. You're a fucking civil protection officer who is supposed to keep things running smoothly. Any idiot on the street must be dealt with in a mannar that will make him/her remember who's in charge. What is this? Cadet Camp?
Citizens: Stop being little bitches and suck it up. If you're dumb enough to jump on the garbage can, you can expect that your ass will be beaten. Don't like it? Don't be such an idiot. Bored? Learn to passive rp. If done properly, it's not as boring as you think.
Rebels: Guns are not for badassary or showing who's boss. They're to protect you from harm. You usually don't need them if you don't have a big base. Refugees should NEVER have guns. They're not geurilla resistance members. They're escapees. Also, if you think creating a rebel group will get you respect, think again. You get ONE idiot in your group and all respect for your group is gone.
I agree with all of this, especially the thing about "ONE Idiot", as I have learned that an idiot in your group (from experience) can lead to your little refugee group getting destroyed...
That happened because one of the more... lolwebuler types in my small refugee group *Yeah, I harboured refugees in my D2 hideout* was greedy and wanted guns, so he went up to a loyalist ICly, said something like "You can get me some guns, right?", So, the loyalist locks all of them in a shop in D2, gets a group of about 5 CPs to raid about 2 of the refugees, while I'm sitting out of harms way *facepalming* so badly ICly and OOCly.
-
Well, Obviously we're not allowed to have a Rebel group except for in the Outlands. Which'll never happen sense we were PROMISED an Outlands server, but were recently told that it's a stupid idea and will never happen. And Refugees can have guns. Rebels = Lambda movement in the outlands. Stupid idiots in Jumpsuits who think they're rebels cause they have guns and live in the slums = Refugees.
-
An outlands server? Thats THE dumbest idea.. What is the point of hiding or resisting if there's no Combine. If we do go through with this.. Cota should ALWAYS be on and ALWAYS be searching for rebels 24/7
-
Outlands is mostly for Lambda Movement, Antlion, Vortigaunt, Zombie, Headcrab, and OTA roleplay.
-
Here's the thing about the Resistance concept. I always find it silly when there's groups of people who call themselves "rebels" or "resistance", that have guns, radios, and live apart from everyone else in their own little base.
That's not how it should be. At all. The key to resisting in a society controlled by a totalitarian government is to be discreet about it. Resisting isn't the fact that you carry a small handgun around you. Resisting in my definition means to carry your ideologies around with you, not present to others.
The thing is, most "rebels" just assume they can run off to different places with their friends, and talk about how to kill units. First of all, everyone is monitored and under surveillance at all times. Scanners take pictures of people everywhere, and when you decide to go out to the plaza, you're expected to have a destination. There is presumably cameras and microphones that would pick up suspicious acts, and any change of course should give reason for the combine to intervene and "blacklist" your name. And where would you run? There's cameras everywhere, which sends information to dispatch, and updates nearby units.
There's also the kind of people that just go out of their way, walks up in the middle of the streets, do /yell Fuck the combine!, and spit on oncoming units (maybe not in that extreme level). That's pointless, because the moment you start resisting publicly, the combine would immediately remove you from the streets and send you to nova prospect. After that, there's no point in resisting, since you'd be gone, right?
I will say that the best way to resist is discreetly. Be secretive about it, even go out in your way praising the benefactors and become a loyalist. Do it in a manner where it wouldn't give anyone reason to suspect you of such acts.