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Title: Concerning Rebels
Post by: @Mmmaaattt94 on June 17, 2011, 08:42:54 AM
Ok guys. I am seriously confused when it comes to the rebellion. I know we can all RP being a rebel (properly not being a lolrebel who punchhores and gets 12 points in 2 minutes) but is there an actually resistance.

Basics are if there isn't an actual group why cant there be one. An actual rebellion but you have to be selected by the other rebels. You have to be a very very good roleplayer and be able to be a rebel, staying low, plotting but not really taking on the combine, helping citizens when they are being unjustly punished etc. It could be a proper class, they get access to the black market and the leader gets access to the weapons. They keep underground, under the radar, they can have special clothing that they can switch between. On other servers its just a suitcase that they use and change clothes. On the new map they can have a permanent base, in there they have stores for the supplies and keep their contraband away for when they go above ground.
It would make being resistance more realistic and make it so there is a proper resistance, not just people claiming to be resisting the CCA and having lolrebel going "ya i rebel, i kill all combine *punchhore, runs off in S6"

So anyway, this is just a basic idea, there may even be a resistance anyway but i never see them. So anyway, please leave comments. This is both a question and comment so i didn't put it in a child board.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: ???Jesusfreak??? on June 17, 2011, 09:24:59 AM
Right now there is only four groups "The Combine/Civil protection", "The Citizens", "The Loyalist" and "The CWU"

The server is still under construction and it still take some time to remove mostly all ass-hats from the servers. If we start a rebel group many of these mingebags just randomly stick to them because they want some action.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: smt on June 17, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
An official, proper, organized rebellion wouldn't even be in our server, our server is generally only the city, they'd be in the outlands.
There are "rebel" groups, just not official ones, they're hard to find for a reason...
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: Pielolz on June 17, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
Moving to its own thread
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: Bromine on June 17, 2011, 10:48:16 AM
My webul char is in the Civium Council. It's job is just to give food and general good stuff to citizens in need, with no repayment.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: =?e?=â?¢Daveman on June 17, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
An official, proper, organized rebellion wouldn't even be in our server, our server is generally only the city, they'd be in the outlands.
There are "rebel" groups, just not official ones, they're hard to find for a reason...

So let me get this right.

If there no rebels to take the CP on then why we still just citizens?

Because for there no need or rebel then we loyalest thus no Pk thus the server will get boring thus we all leave... o.o

Wow, a planed to fail... o.o?
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: Pielolz on June 17, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
Dave how stupid ARE you? Read my damn topic! There are un-official factions which have no weapons thus instead hand out food and stuff..
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: Scratchie on June 17, 2011, 09:11:51 PM
There is a difference between a "rebel" and the "resistance."

The "rebels" are:
- Unorganized in a sense
- Unhelpful in general to the citizens
- Against the combine in mostly a violent way

The "resistance" is"
- More organized
- Helpful to citizens by providing food and stuff
- Uses violence as only a last resort.

Hence why we call rebels lolwebels and we don't have any resistance.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: JoshB on June 18, 2011, 01:23:51 AM
There is a difference between a "rebel" and the "resistance."

The "rebels" are:
- Unorganized in a sense
- Unhelpful in general to the citizens
- Against the combine in mostly a violent way

The "resistance" is"
- More organized
- Helpful to citizens by providing food and stuff
- Uses violence as only a last resort.

Hence why we call rebels lolwebels and we don't have any resistance.
So you let the bad RP of webuls go on, and don't start a good RP resistance?
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: @Mmmaaattt94 on June 19, 2011, 06:38:05 AM
You can rp a good resistance but you have to be able to rp it. I have another character like that. He wont fight the combine, he knows he is completely outnumbered so he just helps the other citizens giving them food when they are hungry (not UU branded if he can get hold of it), a place to stay when they have nowhere else and just helping citizens who have recently been detained. Basics are given them hope that there are still nice people out there which the combine don't want to happen. That is how he resists by giving others hope. Not by fighting. If there was to be a proper resistance they would have a base with the supplies they need like Non UU branded food, books and medical care. Things that can help the other citizens. No guns or ammo that makes them lolrebels. And the only thing they share with lolrebels is that they may have a radio on them just to communicate with the other resistance but thats about it.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: {CG}[AR] A_cRaZeD_hObO on June 19, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
You can rp a good resistance but you have to be able to rp it. I have another character like that. He wont fight the combine, he knows he is completely outnumbered so he just helps the other citizens giving them food when they are hungry (not UU branded if he can get hold of it), a place to stay when they have nowhere else and just helping citizens who have recently been detained. Basics are given them hope that there are still nice people out there which the combine don't want to happen. That is how he resists by giving others hope. Not by fighting. If there was to be a proper resistance they would have a base with the supplies they need like Non UU branded food, books and medical care. Things that can help the other citizens. No guns or ammo that makes them lolrebels. And the only thing they share with lolrebels is that they may have a radio on them just to communicate with the other resistance but thats about it.
Yet more evidence that we need a functional proper resistance.

Adiminstrators, can you point out why it'd be a bad idea to have an official resistance with it's own PRIVATE forums?
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: @Mmmaaattt94 on June 19, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
You can rp a good resistance but you have to be able to rp it. I have another character like that. He wont fight the combine, he knows he is completely outnumbered so he just helps the other citizens giving them food when they are hungry (not UU branded if he can get hold of it), a place to stay when they have nowhere else and just helping citizens who have recently been detained. Basics are given them hope that there are still nice people out there which the combine don't want to happen. That is how he resists by giving others hope. Not by fighting. If there was to be a proper resistance they would have a base with the supplies they need like Non UU branded food, books and medical care. Things that can help the other citizens. No guns or ammo that makes them lolrebels. And the only thing they share with lolrebels is that they may have a radio on them just to communicate with the other resistance but thats about it.
Yet more evidence that we need a functional proper resistance.

Administrators, can you point out why it'd be a bad idea to have an official resistance with it's own PRIVATE forums?

Yeah. Also they would be like the CCA, they have to be selected and have amazing rp skills. They can use the tunnels between the shop and old hut in CWU sector. And they would have to be able to RP so well it would be very very very hard to get in. It would also make it so people can stop saying they are a rebel. If there is an official resistance it can be the only one and if anyone decides to RP a rebel outside for the official resistance it Can count as fail rp. Thus stopping lolrebel.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: {CG}[AR] A_cRaZeD_hObO on June 19, 2011, 03:06:09 PM
You can rp a good resistance but you have to be able to rp it. I have another character like that. He wont fight the combine, he knows he is completely outnumbered so he just helps the other citizens giving them food when they are hungry (not UU branded if he can get hold of it), a place to stay when they have nowhere else and just helping citizens who have recently been detained. Basics are given them hope that there are still nice people out there which the combine don't want to happen. That is how he resists by giving others hope. Not by fighting. If there was to be a proper resistance they would have a base with the supplies they need like Non UU branded food, books and medical care. Things that can help the other citizens. No guns or ammo that makes them lolrebels. And the only thing they share with lolrebels is that they may have a radio on them just to communicate with the other resistance but thats about it.
Yet more evidence that we need a functional proper resistance.

Administrators, can you point out why it'd be a bad idea to have an official resistance with it's own PRIVATE forums?

Yeah. Also they would be like the CCA, they have to be selected and have amazing rp skills. They can use the tunnels between the shop and old hut in CWU sector. And they would have to be able to RP so well it would be very very very hard to get in. It would also make it so people can stop saying they are a rebel. If there is an official resistance it can be the only one and if anyone decides to RP a rebel outside for the official resistance it Can count as fail rp. Thus stopping lolrebel.

I agree with everything apart from the end bit. If they rp being a rebel outside of the official resistance just leave them be. Unless they're being openly hostile to the official one. Then they should be talked to reasonably and if needs be try and merge hopefully. I dunno.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: JoshB on June 19, 2011, 05:21:34 PM
There should be nothing done OOCly to stop normal IC roleplay.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: {CG}[AR] A_cRaZeD_hObO on June 19, 2011, 05:29:27 PM
There should be nothing done OOCly to stop normal IC roleplay.

Wuuuuut?
Are yah saying that boards for Rebels ain't good?
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: JoshB on June 19, 2011, 05:47:07 PM
It should not be considered failRP (an OOC rule) when RPing outside of the officical resistance (IC RP),
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: {CG}[AR] A_cRaZeD_hObO on June 19, 2011, 05:51:41 PM
It should not be considered failRP (an OOC rule) when RPing outside of the officical resistance (IC RP),

OOOOoooohhhhh....
I get yah, that's what I was tryna say too.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: @Mmmaaattt94 on June 19, 2011, 06:15:15 PM
The board would be IC mainly. Like the CCA boards it would just have guidelines, codes, proceedures, logs etc etc. It would be IC so how would it be interfiering OOCly?
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: {CG}[AR] A_cRaZeD_hObO on June 19, 2011, 06:30:31 PM
IC mainly would mean that anyone could read it.
And you wouldn't have Guidelines and shit there, that'd be for Private forums.
CCA have stuff like that because they don't need secrecy. People can't metagame that bleach is level 3, they'd already know from experiance and stuff.
(That was just a bad example :P)
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: @Mmmaaattt94 on June 20, 2011, 05:18:19 AM
Right, here is the basic. There would be 1 main resistance with a board, a perm base etc etc. There CAN be other resistances but they wont be associated with the main one. The main one will have a private section on the forums, this will be done so ONLY people who are in the resistance are allowed in and can see it. Inside it will have IC information about the rules, guidelines, what they do etc. Then IC people can write experiences etc etc. It would all be IC unless stated otherwise which is allowed and not metagaming. It would be rped as a notice board in the base if you like just so there is an IC reason.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: [GM] I Eat Chich on June 22, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
it'd be impossible to have true rebels on this server because most of the map is locked off by the combine, the rebels could only really survive in the slums since the rest of the city is too easy to monitor
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: SkeptiK on June 22, 2011, 10:31:07 PM
Resistance in the city is a horrid idea, simply because it's un-cannon and the whole idea of being in the resistance is to help the innocent, being in the city would be putting them at risk of raids, rations being deducted, beatings and possible killings to gain information. With that being said, "Rebels" should keep in mind that resisting in the plaza is another very bad move as the nexus is only a heartbeat away. What people need to understand with this is that the civil protection units that people control are ICly not the only ones in the city, the nexus contains hundreds of civil protection units and enough COTA units to level the city.

I think the general player base these days want more action than passive, which everyone likes but to a degree. People need to understand that to passive develops your character and enables you to progress through role-play properly, it also means you have may be given access to items rather than just getting them shit spawned for you. What I'm saying here is that people should realise that role-play doesn't always involve resistance taking on the civil protection, as it's only when Gordon is around when the real rebellion begins, other than that it should only be very minor.
Title: Re: Concerning Rebels
Post by: JoshB on June 23, 2011, 03:02:18 PM
REAL resistances create really good passive RP. Basically, you never stop 'preparing' for your 'strike'. You find more members, move bases, improve your base, make friends, get into relationships, scout around D2, help citizens, acquire goods, everything except actually fighting.
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