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Is this a good build? im just looking for a nice pc that can run any game on high/ultra smoothly
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I'd go for it.
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I'd go for it.
Thanks for your feedback,il probaly have enough by christmas and my birthday and the rig'll be mine ;D
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Buy 2x4 GB sticks instead of one
Otherwise, looks pretty good.
also apparently (not from me) AMD cpus are not that good for gaming as other brand processors so maybe you might want to look in to that
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Buy 2x4 GB sticks instead of one
Otherwise, looks pretty good.
also apparently (not from me) AMD cpus are not that good for gaming as other brand processors so maybe you might want to look in to that
Taken Apexs advice and the updated build:
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do not get anything below the 8xxx FX CPUs because anything below is bad for gaming (6xxx is a physical 3 core CPU whereas the 8xxx series is a physical 4 core). If you want an AMD CPU, get something like the FX 8350
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do not get anything below the 8xxx FX CPUs because anything below is bad for gaming (6xxx is a physical 3 core CPU whereas the 8xxx series is a physical 4 core). If you want an AMD CPU, get something like the FX 8350
What he said :p
The 8320/8350 are good choices instead of the 6300. The 6300 is kinda leaning on the weak side when it comes to gaming.
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Im just putting this out here, i have no fucking clue about what any of the differences are or whatever xD, So your feedback is appreciated heavily
edit: New build with channy and Teitoku's recommended CPU
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Do intel with nvidia or amd with amd. Dont mix
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Do intel with nvidia or amd with amd. Dont mix
Why not? I got a GTX 560 with a FX8150. Shit works just fine if you ask me.
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Do intel with nvidia or amd with amd. Dont mix
makes no difference if he mixes or not
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If you're willing to pay extra I'd say go with Intel. Intel gives you slightly better performance per core. Look into the i5-4670k(Or i7-4770k if you do video editing or 3D modeling). Also, if you're willing to pay a little extra I'd say go for a GTX 770.
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Do intel with nvidia or amd with amd. Dont mix
makes no difference if he mixes or not
has no performance effect other than performance with the ladies or the PC loving mates.
Go intel and nvdia and save yourself hassle when you really love and learn more about PC's
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ATI video cards can be better then Nvidia cards in many cases, fyi. Mining bitcoins and litecoins being one of those things.
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Do intel with nvidia or amd with amd. Dont mix
makes no difference if he mixes or not
has no performance effect other than performance with the ladies or the PC loving mates.
Go intel and nvdia and save yourself hassle when you really love and learn more about PC's
AMD is amazing for the price to performance value but you should only go for intel CPUs or nvidia GPUs if you really have quite a bit of money to spend since they are so damn expensive
also like statua said, AMD GPUs can mine crypto-currencies like bitcoin, litecoin, etc. NVIDIA cards are shit for doing that
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My computer is all AMD and i'm very happy with the performance. I have near the same specs you're planning on getting. There's no game that I can't run maxed out in my library except Crysis 3. So don't worry about AMD performance.
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Dont listen to anybody regarding intel v AMD v nvidia performance unless your wanting to go absoutely mad with loads of money and 101010101001010 fps. AMD works fine for gaming but yes, intel is better in gaming but amd is still perfectly playable. I think you may be pushing it a bit with your PSU but if your planning on not upgrading ever it should be fine, though id personally spend more on a psu as its something you dont want to skimp money on
also - have you considered getting parts off scan.co.uk and building yourself (if thats self build feel free to correct)
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http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-corsair-builder-series-cx-85-eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-quiet-fan-atx-v231-psu
get that PSU and yes scan.co.uk is very nice
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Im only 13 so building a PC Isnt really an option as i have NO CLUE About what goes where and whatnot,
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Im only 13 so building a PC Isnt really an option as i have NO CLUE About what goes where and whatnot,
i was like 12 the first time I did it. it's like legos, they're just slightly more breakable.
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Im only 13 so building a PC Isnt really an option as i have NO CLUE About what goes where and whatnot,
Everything is keyed, so if it doesn't fit where you're trying to put it it doesn't go there. Everything is also labeled pretty well on the motherboard. It's really fun building a PC so I recommend doing it.
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Its just, i wouldnt want to break anything xD, And i might try building my own pc, idk ;/
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you won't break anything. like I said, it's an incredibly simple process. seems like it'd be much harder then it actually is
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Most companies where you can customise PCs also offer assembly services where you pay a little extra and get your pc plug-and-play ready at home.
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Look it up on youtube. Newegg's youtube channel has some tutorials, that's how I learned. Took off and put some parts together n stuff. Before I thought it would be really hard but after watching the youtube tutorials and trying it myself it's actually really easy. All it really is just putting parts together, it's not like you are building the actual components from scratch or something.
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also, scan.co.uk can offer builder insurance, so for an extra like 10 or 20 quid and your building your own pc if you do happen to break anything (like forcing something into the wrong slot with a hammer) then it can be replaced etc
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I recommend this build (P.S I just bought this):
http://gyazo.com/8f2b92553fbeebeb6038aa830cc92475
Upgrade the CPU if you wish.
I do recommend windows 8.1 as i've seen a lot of games on steam cropping up with it as a recommended requirement. Plus it's really nice.
For the graphics card its up to you, NVIDIA are expensive but reward you with quality. AMD are cheaper and let you play at higher resolutions smoother.
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No, do not go with Windows 8.1
Windows 7 is still the best plan for an operating system as Windows 8/8.1 is not optimized for gaming and actually knocks a large motherfucking chunk out of your gaming performance. It also has a bunch of limitations if you ever plan to do any development on them.
All in All, Windows 8/8.1 is a pile of shit.
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No, do not go with Windows 8.1
Windows 7 is still the best plan for an operating system as Windows 8/8.1 is not optimized for gaming and actually knocks a large motherfucking chunk out of your gaming performance. It also has a bunch of limitations if you ever plan to do any development on them.
All in All, Windows 8/8.1 is a pile of shit.
lol theres like a minimal difference of about 1 fps in games between W7 and W8.1 so calling it shit doesn't work for that reason
W8.1 is really nice once you get used to it but id say its all about preference (i still use W7 btw) so choose whichever you want
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I'm running Windows 8.1 and don't really see anything great about it. Kinda wish I went with 7 instead.
Unless you really want Windows 8.1 you may as well stick with 7 because you'll be more comfortable with 7, 8.1 has some annoying features.
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No, do not go with Windows 8.1
Windows 7 is still the best plan for an operating system as Windows 8/8.1 is not optimized for gaming and actually knocks a large motherfucking chunk out of your gaming performance. It also has a bunch of limitations if you ever plan to do any development on them.
All in All, Windows 8/8.1 is a pile of shit.
nope.
Doing benchmarks at work has shown me with mid to very High-end rigs with windows 7v8 and 7v8
Found next to no negative or positives over each other
In all truth I used XP through VISTA and most of 7... only reason I stopped was because of the support drop.
It is really up to what you like and are used to, if you love 7 then keep it until things stop supporting it.
I use 8 right now and hated metro at the start but now I don't mind it, faster boot and all.
Change with electronics, PC's more so, is always going to be part of the game. Playing it well is finding the right blend of cost to preformac and preference.
If you can get 8 for the same price or less than 7 do it..
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Benchmarks vs. Real-world tests.
There is no comparison, I develop on windows, I had the developer preview which was out before anyone else got their hands on it, it is bloody terrible.
Stick with Windows 8/8.1 until it's proven to atleast boost game performance and compiling time, Windows 7 has stood the test of time and it is one of the best operating systems you can get currently.
I guess you are forgetting that I am actually a developer and the speel of "I use benchmarks @ work" proves nothing.
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Benchmarks vs. Real-world tests.
There is no comparison, I develop on windows, I had the developer preview which was out before anyone else got their hands on it, it is bloody terrible.
Stick with Windows 8/8.1 until it's proven to atleast boost game performance and compiling time, Windows 7 has stood the test of time and it is one of the best operating systems you can get currently.
I guess you are forgetting that I am actually a developer and the speel of "I use benchmarks @ work" proves nothing.
Doing benchmarks and burn-in includes synthetic and in game testing still showing next to no difference on high end and mid range rigs.
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i also had the developer build for W8 and it was pretty horrible but the actual OS for windows 8/8.1 isnt that bad whatsoever, all it takes is a bit of getting used to like i said and the differences for gaming between them are minimal at best, it all comes down to personal preference
also please dont use the "im a developer" card again, makes you sound elitist as fuck
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i also had the developer build for W8 and it was pretty horrible but the actual OS for windows 8/8.1 isnt that bad whatsoever, all it takes is a bit of getting used to like i said and the differences for gaming between them are minimal at best, it all comes down to personal preference
also please dont use the "im a developer" card again, makes you sound elitist as fuck
He doesn't mean in CG. Afaik he's a dev IRL for, something. I dont remember what though.
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Hi, even though this thread shouldn't be a OS debate I'm just going to throw in this. As a network admin, the fact that the metro UI is in Windows Server 2012 makes me want to burn down some specific buildings in Washington.
"Tap here to install the IIS role"
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Benchmarks vs. Real-world tests.
There is no comparison, I develop on windows, I had the developer preview which was out before anyone else got their hands on it, it is bloody terrible.
Stick with Windows 8/8.1 until it's proven to atleast boost game performance and compiling time, Windows 7 has stood the test of time and it is one of the best operating systems you can get currently.
I guess you are forgetting that I am actually a developer and the speel of "I use benchmarks @ work" proves nothing.
Doing benchmarks and burn-in includes synthetic and in game testing still showing next to no difference on high end and mid range rigs.
I guess being a dev means synthetic and real world tests can be disregarded.
I do agree though, I have had dev build before the public test of 8 and it has been complete crap.
Not sure if any of you had this problem but depending on the license you were given/bought/stole you have different update times. My computers at work update well before my home PC does and they both run the same build.
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Your all welcome to post your opinions, but lets not start a un-needed argument for W7vsW8+ and etc. He can easily google the differences and find what OS to use. He can also use google to fine numerous forums sites with the same debates about which is better.
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I guess being a dev means synthetic and real world tests can be disregarded.
I do agree though, I have had dev build before the public test of 8 and it has been complete crap.
Not sure if any of you had this problem but depending on the license you were given/bought/stole you have different update times. My computers at work update well before my home PC does and they both run the same build.
Being a developer doesn't change the fact that synthetic benchmarks can be disregarded, it's the fact that an average person get's hooked in by some simple benchmarks.
Synthetic benchmarks are called that for a reason, they are built to try emulate real-word scenarios but I have yet to see one which actually corresponds to real-world performance. I have also tried Windows 8 since the developer preview, and 8.1 but they still seem to have a seriously bad problem with SLI performance, specifically micro-stuttering.
It has been more than enough time for this problem to be fixed by Nvidia, and it seems like it isn't as simple as that and it's actually a operating system level problem.
Until I see from my own physical tests of games working to identical if not better performance than Windows 7 on Windows 8, I will not support Windows 8/8.1 in any way. As in every single test, each split by at least 5-6 months the problems have not been solved/partially solved.
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I guess being a dev means synthetic and real world tests can be disregarded.
I do agree though, I have had dev build before the public test of 8 and it has been complete crap.
Not sure if any of you had this problem but depending on the license you were given/bought/stole you have different update times. My computers at work update well before my home PC does and they both run the same build.
Being a developer doesn't change the fact that synthetic benchmarks can be disregarded, it's the fact that an average person get's hooked in by some simple benchmarks.
Synthetic benchmarks are called that for a reason, they are built to try emulate real-word scenarios but I have yet to see one which actually corresponds to real-world performance. I have also tried Windows 8 since the developer preview, and 8.1 but they still seem to have a seriously bad problem with SLI performance, specifically micro-stuttering.
It has been more than enough time for this problem to be fixed by Nvidia, and it seems like it isn't as simple as that and it's actually a operating system level problem.
Until I see from my own physical tests of games working to identical if not better performance than Windows 7 on Windows 8, I will not support Windows 8/8.1 in any way. As in every single test, each split by at least 5-6 months the problems have not been solved/partially solved.
its like a 1-2fps difference between windows 7 and windows 8 holy fuck you are acting like windows 8 is the 2nd vista
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Please move your w7 - w8 debate to another thread.
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Royal. on December 09, 2013, 11:12:58 AM