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Title: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 04, 2013, 05:57:25 PM
I wanted to know if this stuff is good enough and capable to run almost everything on ultra. Along with like a 1920 x 1080 1080p HD Monitor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121651 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121651)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233380 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233380)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099)
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 04, 2013, 09:43:23 PM
Well, for one you have an Intel motherboard and an AMD CPU. You could easily downgrade to 8GB of RAM(Unless you do video editing, modeling, or something like that). I'd say get a GTX 600 series GPU, too. The price is going to be dropping A LOT since the 700 series came out. Also, an Intel ivy bridge CPU would do good. It's cheap now that Haswell has been released. If I get time I'll throw together a build.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Bish on June 04, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)

Post Auto-Merged: June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)
Only problem I am having is that it won't run GTAIV. But I think that is an error on the engine, it crashes my pc... :/  This thing runs Crysis 3 max settings btw.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 07, 2013, 10:38:37 PM
Alright, thanks guys but your pc is a quad core, yes?


This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)

Post Auto-Merged: June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)
Only problem I am having is that it won't run GTAIV. But I think that is an error on the engine, it crashes my pc... :/  This thing runs Crysis 3 max settings btw.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Bish on June 07, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
Alright, thanks guys but your pc is a quad core, yes?


This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)

Post Auto-Merged: June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)
Only problem I am having is that it won't run GTAIV. But I think that is an error on the engine, it crashes my pc... :/  This thing runs Crysis 3 max settings btw.
Yes.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 08, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
You have a smaller resolution than I do. Do you still run games on ultra?
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)

Post Auto-Merged: June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)
Only problem I am having is that it won't run GTAIV. But I think that is an error on the engine, it crashes my pc... :/  This thing runs Crysis 3 max settings btw.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 09, 2013, 11:51:41 AM
the HD 7850 is a great card ignore people who recommend overpriced nvidia cards because itll cost more than amd cards when amd cards are just as good, definitely if you compare them price vs performance

the fx 4100 is really not worth it compared to an amd phenom x4 which is a great card and the only amd fx cpus that even beat their old phenom cpus are the fx-8 series

these are my specs:

(http://gyazo.com/2f971925c797cc4701978d0a16436da7.png)
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Bish on June 09, 2013, 03:01:54 PM
You have a smaller resolution than I do. Do you still run games on ultra?
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)

Post Auto-Merged: June 04, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
This is what I am running, this pc is a monster... and it only cost me around $690

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/af/4c/af4cf0619fc827e0cb5102fdc80a3b73.png)
Only problem I am having is that it won't run GTAIV. But I think that is an error on the engine, it crashes my pc... :/  This thing runs Crysis 3 max settings btw.
Yes I do.  I just have it set to smaller so I can see the hud for games and such.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: FanaticWarren on June 09, 2013, 04:09:20 PM
Like abbott said dont listen to all those Nvidia fan boys. My system will outperform systems with 680's in them

(http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/9b/d6/9bd6ff3f9b7db371fce92c0e03db6364.png)

Here's the inside of it.
(http://i.imgur.com/v7wDkZG.jpg)

Your system you have picked out there will do just fine. I'd get like a 800 watt psu and a motherboard that has two 16x PCI-e lanes in them so if you want two gpu's and get extra performance out of your system you can.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 09, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
If you give us a budget we can build a more up to date build off of what we have here. Like I said in my first post, the build you have won't work as you have an intel motherboard and AMD cpu.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 09, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
If you give us a budget we can build a more up to date build off of what we have here. Like I said in my first post, the build you have won't work as you have an intel motherboard and AMD cpu.
I think I would be willing to spend around $1,000 to $1,250 once I get my money saved up.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 09, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
If you give us a budget we can build a more up to date build off of what we have here. Like I said in my first post, the build you have won't work as you have an intel motherboard and AMD cpu.
I think I would be willing to spend around $1,000 to $1,250 once I get my money saved up.
I'm not sure how long you're waiting, but if it's a long time away then you'll probably be able to upgrade the components.

Here's a build I put together for you. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14KSU

I'm not really sure if you need any extra expansion cards, a monitor, etc. If you do need something else just tell me and I'll modify the build. I can also add a SSD in there as a boot drive if you want. I'd have to change some stuff around to keep it under $1200, though.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 09, 2013, 11:09:52 PM
If you give us a budget we can build a more up to date build off of what we have here. Like I said in my first post, the build you have won't work as you have an intel motherboard and AMD cpu.
I think I would be willing to spend around $1,000 to $1,250 once I get my money saved up.
I'm not sure how long you're waiting, but if it's a long time away then you'll probably be able to upgrade the components.

Here's a build I put together for you. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14KSU

I'm not really sure if you need any extra expansion cards, a monitor, etc. If you do need something else just tell me and I'll modify the build. I can also add a SSD in there as a boot drive if you want. I'd have to change some stuff around to keep it under $1200, though.

First of all, Thank you very much and would it be necessary to have 16 gb of ram or an i7 intel quad core?
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: FanaticWarren on June 10, 2013, 12:09:00 AM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14P6j

Here's an AMD alternate that has more included with the deal but 100$ more.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 10, 2013, 06:10:32 AM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14SRN

Altered Warren's list and put in the Phenom X4 965 Black (AMD FX-8 CPUs are effectively 4 core CPUs with 8 logical cores instead at a higher price, and the Phenom is still great if not slightly better if you are just going to be gaming on your PC), 8GB RAM (you don't need 16GB for a gaming pc) and a MSI 7850 twin frozr 2GB OC (because the 7850 can run just as good as the 7870 when overclocked and is just amazing for overclocking as it can be pushed way beyond it's stock speeds). Overall it is a cheaper build for just as good performance.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 10, 2013, 09:18:46 AM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 10, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good.

how is that a fact and how is amd not as good, they are a lot better when it comes to price vs performance and they can more or less equal nvidia cards for less price
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Tyrion The Anal Explorer on June 10, 2013, 12:08:42 PM
Could someone do me a build? Budget around £500 ($776)
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 10, 2013, 01:11:19 PM
Could someone do me a build? Budget around £500 ($776)
Make another thread for that, please.

It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good.

how is that a fact and how is amd not as good, they are a lot better when it comes to price vs performance and they can more or less equal nvidia cards for less price
AMD is good for a budget build, but since he's willing up to $1200 you may as well spend it on quality like intel. AMD is par with Nvidia, I'll say that. They make good GPUs, but when it comes to processors I think you should just spend it on intel if you can. Intel is better for gaming, but AMD is good if you're on a small budget.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: FanaticWarren on June 10, 2013, 02:25:38 PM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14SRN

Altered Warren's list and put in the Phenom X4 965 Black (AMD FX-8 CPUs are effectively 4 core CPUs with 8 logical cores instead at a higher price, and the Phenom is still great if not slightly better if you are just going to be gaming on your PC), 8GB RAM (you don't need 16GB for a gaming pc) and a MSI 7850 twin frozr 2GB OC (because the 7850 can run just as good as the 7870 when overclocked and is just amazing for overclocking as it can be pushed way beyond it's stock speeds). Overall it is a cheaper build for just as good performance.

The Phenom's are so out of date it would be pointless to get one. And the FX-8350 runs about 3x better in a gamin environment

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 10, 2013, 10:57:24 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 11, 2013, 10:05:22 AM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 11, 2013, 11:10:07 AM
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 11, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 11, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine
Title: Re: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Nicknero on June 11, 2013, 06:47:21 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 12, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>

can you not claim what im suggesting is crap then suggest even more shit plz ty

obs is completely fine and 8gb is also completely fine for recording, plus obs is way less intensive and uses less hard drive space while offering the same good quality

so plz sir, dont be an ass to my suggestions then suggest worse stuff ty
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 12, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Nick, here. For an extra, what, $20 you can get 8GB more? It'll be worth it in the long run if he decides to start recording and rendering.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Nicknero on June 12, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>

can you not claim what im suggesting is crap then suggest even more shit plz ty

obs is completely fine and 8gb is also completely fine for recording, plus obs is way less intensive and uses less hard drive space while offering the same good quality

so plz sir, dont be an ass to my suggestions then suggest worse stuff ty

Read what I said.
I'm not talking about just recording. I'm talking about rendering and exporting professional quality 1080p HD videos.
8GB might just do it, but you won't be able to do anything else on your PC while you are rendering for an hour. With 16GB you can easily do other stuff while rendering, saving yourself a lot of time.

OBS is also only good for livestreaming. Don't even try to suggest it for professional level recording, as it is just shit. You know yourself that I did try it, and I have nothing but issues, issues and more issues. If it wasn't for the bad quality video, it would be for bad audio desync or the fact that you can only record one audio source.

Trust me, who's the professional quality youtuber here? You, or me?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrNicknero1405
(I'm not claiming I'm a huge popular youtuber or something, but I know what I'm doing and OP wants the exact same thing as I do. Hence I suggest him proper equipment I use myself.)
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 12, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>

can you not claim what im suggesting is crap then suggest even more shit plz ty

obs is completely fine and 8gb is also completely fine for recording, plus obs is way less intensive and uses less hard drive space while offering the same good quality

so plz sir, dont be an ass to my suggestions then suggest worse stuff ty

Read what I said.
I'm not talking about just recording. I'm talking about rendering and exporting professional quality 1080p HD videos.
8GB might just do it, but you won't be able to do anything else on your PC while you are rendering for an hour. With 16GB you can easily do other stuff while rendering, saving yourself a lot of time.

OBS is also only good for livestreaming. Don't even try to suggest it for professional level recording, as it is just shit. You know yourself that I did try it, and I have nothing but issues, issues and more issues. If it wasn't for the bad quality video, it would be for bad audio desync or the fact that you can only record one audio source.

Trust me, who's the professional quality youtuber here? You, or me?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrNicknero1405
(I'm not claiming I'm a huge popular youtuber or something, but I know what I'm doing and OP wants the exact same thing as I do. Hence I suggest him proper equipment I use myself.)

1. instead of sitting at your pc while you render a video, its always a good idea to spend a break from your pc and actually do something in the real world

2. obs is COMPLETELY FINE for any sort of recording, both for fun and professional recording thank you very much

3. 8gb ram is completely fine for what hes going to be doing and like most youtubers out there and like i said earlier, while you wait for something to render you can always do something in the real world, breaks are important from the computer

4. plz do not call yourself a professional youtuber again it made me lol especially since you are partnered with the same network i am

im being straight to the point, you are shooting my suggestions down and coming up with worse suggestions to him so please stop
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 12, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
Alright, let's stop this argument. Suggest what you want, and then Cold Bear will buy what he wants.

Also, Abbott, using the "go outside" wouldn't really persuade anyone into buying 8gb over 16gb. They want technical specifications, and they may not be the outside type.
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Prevail on June 13, 2013, 09:48:44 AM
Hardcore gaming, I'd recommend a minimum of a 7950...

Here's a 1k build.

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235038
MotherBoard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372
CPU:   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151257
Heatsink:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064

Total: $1073.91
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Nicknero on June 13, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>

can you not claim what im suggesting is crap then suggest even more shit plz ty

obs is completely fine and 8gb is also completely fine for recording, plus obs is way less intensive and uses less hard drive space while offering the same good quality

so plz sir, dont be an ass to my suggestions then suggest worse stuff ty

Read what I said.
I'm not talking about just recording. I'm talking about rendering and exporting professional quality 1080p HD videos.
8GB might just do it, but you won't be able to do anything else on your PC while you are rendering for an hour. With 16GB you can easily do other stuff while rendering, saving yourself a lot of time.

OBS is also only good for livestreaming. Don't even try to suggest it for professional level recording, as it is just shit. You know yourself that I did try it, and I have nothing but issues, issues and more issues. If it wasn't for the bad quality video, it would be for bad audio desync or the fact that you can only record one audio source.

Trust me, who's the professional quality youtuber here? You, or me?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrNicknero1405
(I'm not claiming I'm a huge popular youtuber or something, but I know what I'm doing and OP wants the exact same thing as I do. Hence I suggest him proper equipment I use myself.)

1. instead of sitting at your pc while you render a video, its always a good idea to spend a break from your pc and actually do something in the real world

2. obs is COMPLETELY FINE for any sort of recording, both for fun and professional recording thank you very much

3. 8gb ram is completely fine for what hes going to be doing and like most youtubers out there and like i said earlier, while you wait for something to render you can always do something in the real world, breaks are important from the computer

4. plz do not call yourself a professional youtuber again it made me lol especially since you are partnered with the same network i am

im being straight to the point, you are shooting my suggestions down and coming up with worse suggestions to him so please stop

1. I really don't like to continue arguments, but playing the "get outside" card only proves you don't have anything better to say.

2. Have you tried DXtory yet? I did try OBS before I heard of DXtory, and I had nothing but trouble.

3. I'm not saying that 8GB isn't enough. But 16GB is better and it isn't expensive at all.

4. Read again. (The part between these () things, ye?)

(User has received a warning for this post("Continuing an argument after being told to stop" - wakeboarderCWB))
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 13, 2013, 12:46:51 PM
Hardcore gaming, I'd recommend a minimum of a 7950...

Here's a 1k build.

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235038
MotherBoard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372
CPU:   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151257
Heatsink:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064

Total: $1073.91
The Power Supply is out of stock and the Internal Hard drive is kinda small. I think the least I could have would be 1TB
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on June 13, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Honestly, I would go with an intel and nvidia build if you're willing to spend the money. It's better quality, and that's really a fact. AMD is cheaper because, well, it's not as good. But buy what you want.

Also, what are you going to be doing with this PC? If just gaming, stay with an i5 and 8gb ram.
I'm just really using it for gaming and maybe fraps when I play CG but, I would like to run like skyrim Ultra and like other graphic demanding games.
Yeah, stay with an i5 if you're just going to use it for gaming. i7's are good for rendering, modelling, etc. The only difference between an i5 and an i7 is the multicore hyperthreading, something games don't take advantage of yet.

This should play most games on Ultra. If you want, you may be able to get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade to GTX 670 graphics card.

Edit: Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you'll want to get a CPU cooler. Also, do you need an OS? That'll set you back $100. I upgraded the build to a GTX 670. Also changed the optical drive to a blu ray one.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15fMu

Okay, since it's in your budget I went ahead and switched over to an i7 and 16gb ram.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819116901)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822236339)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146025)
GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814162135)
RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313347)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827136252)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157378)
PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371049)
$1225 including shipping. If you want it less than $1200, drop down to 8GB RAM.
Yeah, I forgot all about the OS Probably Win7 either home professional 64 bit
16GB RAM is a massive waste if all you are going to do is game and fraps, at max go for 8GB and save your money
I was going to start youtubing with my friend but I guess I could upgrade if it ever happens.

recording with just about any program at 8gb ram will be completely fine, although instead of using FRAPS you should use OBS: http://obsproject.com/

it allows you to both livestream and local record and is less intensive than fraps so ye unless you are going to be doing some intense shit on your PC which all you are doing is gaming and recording videos by the sounds of it, 8 GB is fine

Stop suggesting crap.
If you want to record and edit for Youtube on professional level, get 16GB and use DXtory as recording software.
RAM is cheap as fuck, and trust me you'll need it if you plan to render and export HD quality videos.
For example I am rendering 1080p quality videos with 16GB RAM and I easily take up 13GB. And I can still easily browse the Internet and YouTube meanwhile.

<::[[ Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 using Tapatalk 2 ]]::>

can you not claim what im suggesting is crap then suggest even more shit plz ty

obs is completely fine and 8gb is also completely fine for recording, plus obs is way less intensive and uses less hard drive space while offering the same good quality

so plz sir, dont be an ass to my suggestions then suggest worse stuff ty

Read what I said.
I'm not talking about just recording. I'm talking about rendering and exporting professional quality 1080p HD videos.
8GB might just do it, but you won't be able to do anything else on your PC while you are rendering for an hour. With 16GB you can easily do other stuff while rendering, saving yourself a lot of time.

OBS is also only good for livestreaming. Don't even try to suggest it for professional level recording, as it is just shit. You know yourself that I did try it, and I have nothing but issues, issues and more issues. If it wasn't for the bad quality video, it would be for bad audio desync or the fact that you can only record one audio source.

Trust me, who's the professional quality youtuber here? You, or me?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrNicknero1405
(I'm not claiming I'm a huge popular youtuber or something, but I know what I'm doing and OP wants the exact same thing as I do. Hence I suggest him proper equipment I use myself.)

1. instead of sitting at your pc while you render a video, its always a good idea to spend a break from your pc and actually do something in the real world

2. obs is COMPLETELY FINE for any sort of recording, both for fun and professional recording thank you very much

3. 8gb ram is completely fine for what hes going to be doing and like most youtubers out there and like i said earlier, while you wait for something to render you can always do something in the real world, breaks are important from the computer

4. plz do not call yourself a professional youtuber again it made me lol especially since you are partnered with the same network i am

im being straight to the point, you are shooting my suggestions down and coming up with worse suggestions to him so please stop

1. I really don't like to continue arguments, but playing the "get outside" card only proves you don't have anything better to say.

2. Have you tried DXtory yet? I did try OBS before I heard of DXtory, and I had nothing but trouble.

3. I'm not saying that 8GB isn't enough. But 16GB is better and it isn't expensive at all.

4. Read again. (The part between these () things, ye?)

1. lol

2. just because your PC shits itself by running OBS and you are in the 0.1% of the people who probably suffer the same thing doesnt make the program shit

3. 16GB is hardly better than 8GB, even for video editing because its also still influenced by your CPU and the extra 8GB RAM hardly makes a difference

4. lol you still called yourself a professional quality youtuber

(User has received a warning for this post("Continuing an argument after being told to stop" - wakeboarderCWB))
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on June 13, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
Abbott and Nick, I told you to stop once. A one day ban will be issued if either of you continue to argue about it.

Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 19, 2013, 11:09:53 PM
Anything else helpful to me for building my computer? Also it would be awesome if somebody made a build off of newegg or pcpartpicker! Thanks everybody :D
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 22, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
Anything else helpful to me for building my computer? Also it would be awesome if somebody made a build off of newegg or pcpartpicker! Thanks everybody :D

Could somebody put a build together please?
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: Lewis on June 23, 2013, 05:46:20 AM
Anything else helpful to me for building my computer? Also it would be awesome if somebody made a build off of newegg or pcpartpicker! Thanks everybody :D

Could somebody put a build together please?

people have already put together 3 or so builds for you in this very thread
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: ColdBear on June 24, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
Anything else helpful to me for building my computer? Also it would be awesome if somebody made a build off of newegg or pcpartpicker! Thanks everybody :D

Could somebody put a build together please?

people have already put together 3 or so builds for you in this very thread

But there were changes in what other people said... And one thing is like out of stock or something
Title: Re: Building a PC in the future
Post by: cookiesofamerica on June 26, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
I recommend a case with good airflow that can support liquid cooling, for ex:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322019 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322019)
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