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General => Suggestions => Topic started by: Teitoku Ippan on January 31, 2013, 04:42:38 PM

Title: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on January 31, 2013, 04:42:38 PM
Since it was discovered that forum profile pics were causing the stupid lag for the forums I am suggesting these two things

1. Limit the height x width dimensions of profile pictures to something suitable like 200x200 or 230x230, so we don't have people using oversized images that have to be resized by the forums which has been causing the issues.

2. (Optional) Wipe everyone's profile picture to remove the lag so people can then put their profile pics back within the dimension size.

3. (Alternative with number 2) Remove the ability to use image urls as profile pics, keep the dimension restriction and add a file size restriction to images to further reduce lag.

It's really bothersome having to see each forum page take like 3-5 seconds to load within this past weak so I made these suggestions which can obviously be improved upon or discussed by everyone else.

EDIT: Thanks to smt for this

http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/fXMuFl95N/http://www.catalyst-gaming.net
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Crap-Head on January 31, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
With profile pics, you mean signature, right?
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: smt on January 31, 2013, 05:25:39 PM
With profile pics, you mean signature, right?

No, he means avatars, when you load the index.php the load time is being bogged down by using using massive images or gifs that take seconds to load (2 seconds is a lot for a webpage loading, and CG takes up to 8+ seconds)
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Somone77 on January 31, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
If it were up to me you wouldn't have signatures or avatars, they're stupid.

Since it's not up to me, I tried doing this once, only to find everyone hated it and demand it undone. It was.

So make up your minds and I might care.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on February 01, 2013, 01:01:44 AM
Disable signatures and see how that helps for now.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Somone77 on February 01, 2013, 01:04:07 AM
Done.

Note: Your signatures are still there, they aren't gone. You didn't lose all your precious BBC code (yes people actually worry about this).

Though I should point out that the most time taken during the average page load is not images, it's the execution of the php file (index.php takes, on average, 3.2seconds to execute). This is something with SMF being terribly optimized and not utilizing caching libraries which would decrease load times drastically.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: smt on February 01, 2013, 06:37:20 AM
I'm not sure why disabling signatures help when the main issue is loading the front page, which is the page that takes multiple seconds to load due to admin's avatars on the front page
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on February 01, 2013, 02:03:16 PM
Done.

Note: Your signatures are still there, they aren't gone. You didn't lose all your precious BBC code (yes people actually worry about this).

Though I should point out that the most time taken during the average page load is not images, it's the execution of the php file (index.php takes, on average, 3.2seconds to execute). This is something with SMF being terribly optimized and not utilizing caching libraries which would decrease load times drastically.

and yet nothing was solved in disabling signatures apart from the fact we have no signatures now, the insane load times still exist
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: EmperorDisasster on February 01, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Done.

Note: Your signatures are still there, they aren't gone. You didn't lose all your precious BBC code (yes people actually worry about this).

Though I should point out that the most time taken during the average page load is not images, it's the execution of the php file (index.php takes, on average, 3.2seconds to execute). This is something with SMF being terribly optimized and not utilizing caching libraries which would decrease load times drastically.

and yet nothing was solved in disabling signatures apart from the fact we have no signatures now, the insane load times still exist

Are you sure? Cause the only time I'm having loading troubles now are when I'm actually posting, but when looking at posts it just goes like that.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: aeiou on February 01, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
I don't have any problems at all
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: smt on February 01, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
(http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/2/3201260960-orig.png)

It seems to change, sometimes I load the front page/forums front page in 2~ seconds sometimes it seems to take 8+ seconds
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: aeiou on February 01, 2013, 05:39:55 PM
I haven't had an issue with it forever, but I won't deny it's there
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Hardcore on February 01, 2013, 05:42:55 PM
Its kinda funny because I never experience any slow loading, it takes maximum 2 seconds for mine to load and I'm located far away from the host if that makes any difference.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: smt on February 01, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
It may be more related to the routing to EU, both Pingdom's american test locations get <2-4 seconds time (and that's maximum, site is usually displayed before that) while the one EU one is usually 6-8~ seconds
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Somone77 on February 01, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: smt on February 01, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.

im aware that caching exists, but massive gif avatars are still dumb, they make scrolling down the main page a tiring job

the page still loads slowly, not matter what's causing it, having to wait 6-7 seconds for the main page to load is bad
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Hardcore on February 01, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.

I'm from EU and I got no high load times.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: hogs on February 02, 2013, 02:20:06 AM
Quote
3. (Alternative with number 2) Remove the ability to use image urls as profile pics, keep the dimension restriction and add a file size restriction to images to further reduce lag.

please explain how this changes lag in the slightest
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: Somone77 on February 02, 2013, 03:40:48 AM
im aware that caching exists, but massive gif avatars are still dumb, they make scrolling down the main page a tiring job

Then this is an entirely different argument and unrelated to this thread.

the page still loads slowly, not matter what's causing it, having to wait 6-7 seconds for the main page to load is bad

Well I'll just call my buddy up at SMF and tell him we need to the it faster. Update will be done in 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: tics on February 02, 2013, 04:04:14 AM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.
Then was there really a point at all in removing forum signatures?
Title: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on February 02, 2013, 06:14:59 AM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.
Then was there really a point at all in removing forum signatures?
They're annoying as shit anyway
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: hogs on February 02, 2013, 08:56:18 AM
Stop talking like you're web developers, k.

The pictures don't do shit to load times. They're cached, they take less than 200ms to load unless you've never seen it before.

The problem is that we have forum software loaded with bloat that gets executed on every page load, like I said before, the time spent is not downloading it's waiting for the webserver to return the result, ergo not the pictures.
Then was there really a point at all in removing forum signatures?
They're annoying as shit anyway

yes they mostly consist of this


my xcharacters
johnny fetus -- alive in the outlands fIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL
jill 'xX_slay3r_Xx' hounddog -- killing cp no0bz

MAI FUNNY QUOATES
(http://i.imgur.com/0UB6XQd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hg6nkqo.jpg)

Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: tim on February 03, 2013, 01:52:07 PM
snip

except none of them are like that lol
Title: Re: Wipe and put restrictions on profile pics
Post by: kronik on February 27, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Well it's pretty clear that the initial suggestion isn't going to happen. Maybe someday in the future signatures will be re-enabled, but for now it looks like they're going to stay disabled.
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