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Title: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: PixelDuh on March 10, 2012, 11:32:48 PM
I was walking/flying around the map in single player and I got a lot of ideas for editing the map itself. So, I plunked myself down infront of the Hammer World editor and I browsed around- But I couldn't open the map! It was some BSP type of file or something and I couldn't edit it. The point is, I would like to try and edit the map and then upload it on this thread to see if the admins will take a look at it. Thanks,
      -AliDuh1
*EDIT* I have the VMF now, just can't recompile it for some reason
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: PixelDuh on March 10, 2012, 11:40:53 PM
All I am planning on doing is putting static and definite barricades instead of ingame spawned props, and convert all glass to breakable glass (except in the nexus, which would be a pretty cool feature.) Also I am going to add light in the subway, Change the textures for people who don't have CS:S (like me) and maybe, MAYBE i will make randomly patroling NPC scanners.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Rhombicuboctahedron on March 11, 2012, 01:52:04 AM
Listen, if you can't open a map, don't waste hours figuring out how to do very basic stuff. You'll just give up when you realize how annoying mapping is.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: garry :D on March 11, 2012, 03:06:43 AM
The map is protected against decompile attempts.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: GeneralTrivium on March 11, 2012, 05:34:04 AM
Even if you were given the vmf, these changes are not practical. Breakable glass is expensive and incredibly annoying. Adding more static props just adds to an already close to full entity limit, same with adding NPCs. And the subway lacks light for a reason.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: swag master spiderman on March 11, 2012, 07:22:53 AM
Why would you have lights on a broken down, unused railway?

Breakable glass - Quite a few problems, seeing as combine could just break down the door and people could lolpunch the windows out.

Static props - Nothing really wrong with that apart from the near full entity limit.

Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: PixelDuh on March 11, 2012, 10:45:33 AM
Ok well, you guys all seem to have problems with my ideas and apparently will refuse to give me the decompiled version, and I respect that.

You just probably never heard of vmex...

So NOW I GOT IT!

And I will probably just fix a couple of minor stuff, like missing textures and stuff like that, but, like I said in the first thing, the breakable glass will only be in the outside like in the town square and non-combine areas (the nexus will have bullet proof glass) and the barriers in front of the entrances of the nexus, D6, and the RDT
*edit* HOLY CRAP THIS IS DIFFICULT!
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: swag master spiderman on March 11, 2012, 11:28:57 AM
That doesn't really stop people from lolpunching all of the store windows out when nobody is watching.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: PixelDuh on March 11, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
All this time i thought that lolpunching was disabled
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Dragon Dildo on March 11, 2012, 12:36:13 PM
NPC Scanners? You've got to be kidding.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: PixelDuh on March 11, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
Ok I said MAYBE about the scanners, but since you guys don't seem to want it, i wont put it in
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Penguin on March 11, 2012, 12:45:26 PM
I really doubt that cg would want to release the vmf to a nobody who asked for it.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Statua on March 11, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
Vmex = decompiler = stealing the devs hard work wihout permission = copyright infringement = lawsuit

Word of advice, only use vmex to see how a dev did something, not to take their work and edit it.  As for how difficult the map is, no shit its hard. Mapping aint a walk in the park bud. Ive been mapping since 2006 and i still have a hard time with some things. Mapping isnt something you just do, its an art. It takes time. Ineu pass was a simple procedure of crashing two maps together and making it seamless. I added a few things here and there but really, its not a full map construct and it still took me 400+ hours.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 12, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
Vmex = decompiler = stealing the devs hard work wihout permission = copyright infringement = lawsuit

Word of advice, only use vmex to see how a dev did something, not to take their work and edit it.  As for how difficult the map is, no shit its hard. Mapping aint a walk in the park bud. Ive been mapping since 2006 and i still have a hard time with some things. Mapping isnt something you just do, its an art. It takes time. Ineu pass was a simple procedure of crashing two maps together and making it seamless. I added a few things here and there but really, its not a full map construct and it still took me 400+ hours.
Not to mention that once he tries to compile it hammer will always crash...

No shit karma tried it and it always crashed it simply cannot be done.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Statua on March 19, 2012, 05:42:33 AM
Actually it can be done. Look at ineu pass. Those were two maps decompiled and stuck together. Sure it took me ages to fix all the broken shit but Im pretty good with map repairs if I have time.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 19, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
Actually it can be done. Look at ineu pass. Those were two maps decompiled and stuck together. Sure it took me ages to fix all the broken shit but Im pretty good with map repairs if I have time.
Its impossible to recompile it with out it crashing....
We've tried it before...
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: [CG] Rekyit Merlo on March 19, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
Apparently it is possible because Statua was able to do it. Holy shit, not that hard to understand.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 19, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
Apparently it is possible because Statua was able to do it. Holy shit, not that hard to understand.
With a VALVE map NOT a user made map.

Like I said before unless Kaz removed it(Which I really don't think he did..) it'd still won't compile again.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: [CG] Rekyit Merlo on March 19, 2012, 05:36:10 PM
Actually it can be done. Look at ineu pass. Those were two maps decompiled and stuck together. Sure it took me ages to fix all the broken shit but Im pretty good with map repairs if I have time.
Apparently it is possible because Statua was able to do it. Holy shit, not that hard to understand.
Please do not make me say this again....PLEASE
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Statua on March 19, 2012, 06:26:01 PM
With a VALVE map NOT a user made map.

Doesnt make any difference.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: [CG] Rekyit Merlo on March 19, 2012, 06:45:20 PM
With a VALVE map NOT a user made map.

Doesnt make any difference.
Just so Juggernaut can See.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 19, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
With a VALVE map NOT a user made map.

Doesnt make any difference.
Just so Juggernaut can See.
Comm would you kindly stop posting.

Statua how much protection do you think Valve would put in the map?
Or how much Kaz would(The one that threaten to stop working on it due to some one uploading it to Garrysmod.org and not giving him the credit)?

Seeing how you could compile the ineu and Karma couldn't compile C45 worth a shit I think there is something in C45 that isn't in the default maps......
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: [CG] Rekyit Merlo on March 19, 2012, 07:06:58 PM
With a VALVE map NOT a user made map.

Doesnt make any difference.
Just so Juggernaut can See.
I cannot stress this enough, Sir.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: Statua on March 19, 2012, 07:20:24 PM
Ive vmexd kazs C45 when testing nodes and entlimts. It compiled just fine after a few bugfixes. Unlike karma, i actually know how to look for and resolve errors. Not every user places a decompile protector in their map either FYI. Even still, there are cracked decompilers out there designed to avoid the protectors which is how evocity2_1 got decompiled.

Bottom line is, any map can be decompiled and recompiled if you know what youre doing. /thread

Now quit bickering about it.
Title: Re: rp_city45_catalyst: Can I upgrade it?
Post by: [CG] Rekyit Merlo on March 19, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
Thank you sir, I take leave now sir, bye sir.
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