Quote from: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on March 11, 2013, 07:22:27 PM

Quote from: Smt on March 11, 2013, 06:38:54 PM

Quote from: Elions on March 11, 2013, 06:36:55 PM

It kind of is. It prooves he was fooled to go in there, it prooves there was intended malice in fooling him like that, and it's more than obvious that it shows the RP in general was just invalid by the point the whole thing turned around.

So what? That's the point I'm trying to get across, he was fooled and then got a PK from it, so what? It was IC, there's no reason to unPK anyone

The fooling wasn't IC however, It was OOC.

So you metagamed and then got PKd from it?

Metagaming would be taking what was said in the steam chat and using it in a way that would give me an advantage(Like I don't know... Planning an ambush?). Instead I was trying to help outlands out as a whole but I got killed for it(Which it was NLR then, IDK why it got bumped to PK.).


You said "We'll meet", which I was under the impression we were going to work together a bit before we do this so its not a sudden leap.
I have no idea why it was jumped from an NLR to a PK.

Quote from: Statua on March 11, 2013, 05:14:14 PM

So let me get this straight.

Kronos and Jugger talked in steam chat and agreed in steam chat to form an alliance. Jugger and Elions went ICly to the location (metagame unless scripted RP was planned) and Kronos basically said "no I lied" and killed both Elions and Juggernaut?

I feel like I'm missing something from Kronos' side. Someone get him to post here.

No, they never spoke in Steam Chat about making a group prior to this.

Yes. We did. Jonco already asked about it.
It was my understanding that /that was the meeting we were having to start it/. Was it Meta game? Maybe. But I was /trying/ to help outlands out, Hence why I did it.

You were ambushed and he offered you options, i am part of kronos group, an advisor and you have been a target for quite some time, i knpw its hard to let go but you srsly need too

You weren't part of the ambush, please stay out of it. And I'm not "Letting go" because of the reasons I stated which are perfectly legitment and has proof to back them up. Kronos didn't "Offer" me anything Jonco was the one that decided I was going to get NLR'd.

My Steam name: Titan of the Dinosaurs, Elions
My Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:15659747 STEAM_0:1:10748774

My character's name: Matthew 'Oldman' Henderson, Eli 'Stalker'

The admin who issued the PK: Do not currently know, Various SA's

The reason my character should be unbanned/unpermakilled:
I went there under an OOC misconception/lie that Kronos and I were going to form/reform an/the Alliance to try to expand the playerbase and help new groups form(Jonco confirmed that such an agreement existed with Kronos). This was done in a steam chat between me and Kronos because it was some what breaking character/s for the good of the server. When I arrived at the second town I found Matthew's surrogate daughter is/was being hurt by a vortigaunt, normally I would have left then and there but instead I broke character again for the sake of forming this OOC alliance/the server. When we got in we got so far and I had to go for a bit, when I come back they sprang the ambush and in the firefight both Matthew And Eli were killed.
After it they took our OOC items and said that we were going to be NLR'd. While dropping my extra .357 ammo for Keiji to grab I mis-clicked on one of the boxes and it autoloaded, I was unaware what button I had hit when this happened so I clicked what I thought was the other button and it autoloaded that set of ammo.
After I get off Kronos messages me attempting to black mail me in to giving him my jeep( http://i.imgur.com/Iqqetvu.png?1 ) Rofl confirmed that this was in deed black mail ( http://i.imgur.com/Ere63Lo.png?1 ) after I told him he would only get it with Kronics auth he ended up getting it anyway.

After this I decided to look for the reason behind the ambush, Kronos was AFK/refusing to talk to me so I talked to his other party members.
( http://i.imgur.com/ZDsgqAD.jpg?1 ) After I gathered these I started to ask Jonco/sexy what all they knew about the ambush, turns out they knew nothing other than Sexy knowing that reason, however Kronos had ordered them to do it.

I think because of me breaking character for the sake of Outlands and the player community/trying to help I should be unPK'd.
(If the pictures don't work I'll need to fix them so expect an edit.)

Eli walked in to the room in a casual set of cloths saying "So... Ready yet?"
James yelled at the bathroom door saying"Hurry up! I have to be somewhere!
"You try getting pants over a fucking stump!" Matt yelled from the bathroom.
"Truth was I already had them on, I just wanted Eli here, the extra firepower gave me peace of mind."
James looked at Eli saying "Hes all packed, just needs to get out of the gown..." Matt yelled from the bathroom "Whoever brought those fucking things back needs a bullet in the head!" Eli chuckled lightly as he heard Matthew complain "Oh come on, look at it this way, at least you weren't 6 feet under" "With the way Jo' was acting? Sometimes I might as well have been!" Matt yelled from the bath room. A crash could be heard followed by a lot of swearing. "I broke the stupid cup I was drinking from, no big deal."
"Oh boy..." he walked towards the bathroom door, asking. "You need some help in there, Matt?" He looked to James for a second, shrugging and telling him in a low tone so Matt doesn't hear. "He's never been used to that bloody thing."
Matt opened the door giving Eli an evil eye. "You do realize I'm not deaf right?" "Hey, if that glare didn't work on me during the pass, it ain't going to work here" He patted Matt's shoulder and gives him a quirky smirk. "Come on, let's not waste any more time." Matt went and grabbed his pack and then looks at James and Eli "Come on you slow pokes, How far is this fucking place from here?" "Not very far, its a block or two away from the old Nexus" James replied.


As the group arrived at the building complex anyone who was in the city during the occupation would have been the Embassy, it looks rebuild and converted in to a more "Human" design. "This better be the cheapest fucking apartment here James..." Matt said quietly while they entered.  "I'm sure you can make it grimy enough for you in case it looks too fancy." Eli walked along with them, keeping his hands in his pant's pockets as they walked. "I hate ruining shit, mainly shit people give me, my last apartment was already shit before I got there..." Matt ranted while they head up a stair case. "The man who runs this place is like a brother to me, he wanted to help you." James said while they arrive at the door.  "Looks nice enough from outside at least." Eli said that as he looked through the hallway, still somewhat 'clean'. "I didn't like people going through trouble to help me, I felt like I had relied on other people far to much in my life... I wanted to change that."
James uses a keycard to open the door they enter in a very nice and 'Modern' apartment, fully furnished with leather seats and an upstairs. "You've been fighting for what? Five or six years now? You needed something nice." James said walking in to the living room. Matt bowed his head in defeat looking around the apartment. "It is nice... And I guess it wouldn't hurt." Matt grabbed his gut feeling the pain meds wear off. "It was the same dull pain that had plagued me for a while now, every step I took hurt on that side." "Pain's kicking back, I take it" Eli looked to Matt as he walked around the apartment, gesturing towards one of the couches in the living room "Go lay down, mate... You're gonna have a rough pair of weeks ahead of you" Matt walks to the couch and sits down. "I think I need a Cain.." "Where is your walker?" James ask. "I had blazed through psychical therapy like a cheetah after a African buffalo I didn't need any walker"
"I threw it away, I'm not walking in to any court room with a walker..." Matt replied. "As I continued to look around I realized how nice this apartment is." James looked at his watch and then back to Matt saying "Bath room and bed room are directly up the stairs." He then tilted his head back "There's a kitchen over there and a bath room in between them" he finished. "I have to go deal with something, you're defense lawyer will be here tomorrow." He tossed the keycard to him and then walks out saying "If you need a new one go to the front desks, your home arrest is the entire building, not just here."

Eli gave James a small wave as he left, then looked back at Matt "Well... All things considered, this is a pretty nice place. Certainly more comfortable than that hospital room." "Yeah... Hows Harley? Matt ask. "She's doing well... Handles my cases in Interpol actually. One of us had to stay back home after all." He replies as it sits down on one of the seats in front of Matt "She's pregnant, you know." Matt looked at Eli with a bit of a shocked look on his face. "No I didn't, Jo' seemed annoyed with you two... Congrats though."  Matt leaned back scratching his beard. "Am I allowed a razor or is that classified as a "Deadly weapon?" Eli chuckled lightly "Considering how crap you were with knives before, I think i can trust you with one, but we'll have to get that later" he sighed "... Jo's just worried, as per usual, because I haven't precisely stopped putting myself in danger."  "Either of us have..." Matt looked around the apartment. "I don't know if I'm ready..."
"What, the trial?" Eli ask. "You'll do fine... Considering the kind of scumbag he was." Eli relaxes back onto the chair for a moment "You should be more worried about what you'll do afterwards"  He said trying to reassure Matt "No... Everything going back to normal... Its just... We fought for so hard and so long... I figured it'd feel... different.." Matt replied. "Eli had started his life, and I was sitting here like a child after he was grounded, I needed to move on..." "Different how? Like it would all be good and perfect permanently?" Eli replied sarcastically.  "No I mean... I've been sitting on my ass drinking so long that the world changed around me and I didn't even notice, I fought so hard to free this city and then I just turned my back on it..." Matt continued.  "I guess its time for me to get back in to the world..." He finished. 
Eli nodded lightly "Yeah, I guess we're the kind of people who can't just stop 'working', can we?" "It's a bit difficult to stay in touch either way... I've been trying to keep tabs on everyone from Ineu." Eli continued. "Yeah.. There's quite a bit I need to do after the trial before the election.. I'm going to run for head councilman position. Matt said. "Spend my twilight years doing some good..." Matt finished. "Hey, a cushy position is better than nothing right?" he gestured towards his eye "Besides, I don't think you can do much with that patch now."
"His sense of humor didn't escape him..."  "Heh, know anyone who can get me back to America?" Matt ask.

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A figure walks up to the body lying on the floor, the expression on the body's face blank.
The figure bends down over the body and closes the eyelids shut saying "Requiescant in pace".
"It was over, the job finished, as I stood there victorious over my fallen enemy I felt nothing but sorrow for the lost of life."


Matt lifted his hand from over his bullet wound and saw that the blood on his hand was black. "The worst part of being a doctor turned soldier is I always know exactly how bad shit like this is, the bullet had hit my liver, the poor sod had taken so much booze and shit I'd be surprised if it hasn't already failed on me. There wasn't enough blood for a direct hit, I had time." Matt bent down and took a close look at Ivan's revolver noticing the engraving. "Union standard issue elitist penis extension, Ivan must have taken it off of the SeC after he killed him." Matt heard the elevator start moving, he flipped open his revolver and pushed the extractor half way and removed the empty shell and put it in his pocket and then grabbed Ivan's revolver and got behind cover.
"I never really liked the duel welding cliche, but that elevator was most likely filled with assholes ready to take a shot at me."
Matt pulled both of the hammers back and brought them in front of him trying to aim them anyway he could when the elevator reached the top.

"Easy there cowboy." James said holding his hands up.
The elevator was full of police officers who were now scowering the room looking for survivors. "Leave any for us?" James asked.
Matt fell to his knees in pain holding his bullet wound tight. "Just my luck, the bullet didn't pass through me and was stuck on a god damn fucking nerve." James reached down and got Matt up supporting him just now noticing the gun shot. "Shit! Get the medics!"
"Slowly like the ending of a cartoon the room started to fade away, was this death? I had been shot so many times I didn't know what the feeling was like anymore..."
"The nightmare was always the same."

Matt found himself standing in a large dark and foggy room. Slowly all around him shapes moved in the shadows.
"Something felt different... Its not something one describes in a shitty noir monologue.
Was this death? Was this the grand afterlife that everyone feared?"
The shapes in the shadows started to take the form of people approaching him. Matt looked down to see that the gunshot wound had followed him in to this place.
Slowly the figures started to be come clear. "I didn't feel fear any more, I was years past that, I had gone from a doctor in the suburbs of Houston to a soldier, a leader, I had done so many things during the occupation, so many terrible things.
I was never a praying man, but a passage came to mind that I think was about to match what was going to happen."
The figures came up to them, they stopped three feet from him a group of them surrounding him, Matt spun around still holding his wound.
One of the figures step out of the circle and slowly started to be come recognizable.
"I'm so proud of you.." A familiar voice said. The figure took the form of Caroline, Matt's wife.
Matt looked down in shame. Then he felt her warm hand on his cheek for the first time in many many years.
"There is nothing to be a shamed of." she said softly. Matt looked up at her and saw the two figures to her sides take the form of Thomas and Ali. Matt looked around and saw the figures of all those he had lost: His mother, His friends, all of them with a sort of sad smile on their face.
"I failed you, I failed all of you..." Matt said tearing up.
"You failed no one." she said smiling on her face. She brought her self in and hugged Matt and then took a step back. "I could have saved all of you... I..."
"You did save us." Thomas said.
"You made me sane again, you have me a reason to live." He continued.
"You gave me the best years of my life." Matt's wife said.
Matt's mother came up to him and put her hand on his shoulder. "I left you in that place.. Abandoned you..." Matt sobbed.
"You were busy living your life. No matter what happened to me that is what I wanted most of all, not you to be burdened by my mistakes..." She said. Matt looked back at his wife. "I should have been there with you..." Matt said to her.
"You were with me in spirit." she replied.
"Had you been there you would have died too, you did so many great things after my death."
Matt looked to Thomas.
"I died a good death, I died with no regrets and a free man."
"Its time to move on my love, we will always be with you, stop trying to make up for things that aren't your fault.
Live your life." Matt's wife finished.
Slowly, the world around Matt started to fade, everyone around Matt smiled as they faded away.

Matt woke up in a hospital bed in a gown. Matt looked to his side and saw Jacob there smiling.
"Welcome back to the world." He said.
Matt smiled and tried to get up only to have James put his hand on his chest. "Doctors say you need some rest Matt." He said.
Matt laid back down and caught sight of Eli entering the room from the hallway.
Eli seems to be wearing a pretty clean suit but other than that he doesn't seem to have changed much since the pass.* "Ah... I see 'sleeping beauty' just woke up."  Matt chuckles and then grabs his side, clearly that hurt like a mother fucker. "Bastard.. Don't make me laugh..."  "Fuck I hate getting shot..." he continued.
"Eli had been there for me during the pass and the war, a friend to the end."
"I don't think anyone likes it mate... Sorry I wasn't here when you woke up. Jo's been yelling at the doctors like a banshee. She's pretty worried." Eli says. "Why? Its not like I died or anything..." Matt chuckles again grabbing his side in pain. Jacob pipes up saying "Uh... You kinda did die..." The kid was a bit of a mood killer..."
Eli shook his head "For a few minutes, yep... I guess I'm not the only 'zombie' in the room now" He smiles at Matthew, gesturing at him "I heard what you did on the nexus... Again. You could have asked for my help you know." "You were off doing your shit, I needed to do it myself." Matt replied.  "Matt, I was checking up on you once a month. Bloody hell... You know I'm not about to let a friend alone at a time like that." He seemed somewhat serious as he said that "... Still, I'm glad to see you got out alive."

The smiles fades from Matt's face and he looks over to James. "So what now?" he ask "I was about to ask you the same thing, The council is gone, they were either arrested or shot, and right now I'm the highest level government official... I have no idea whats the next step.." He replied. "Why don't you do it?" Jacob pipes up.  "Do what?" Matt asked. "I think he's a bit too old for it" Eli quickly quips.
"Run for council I mean... Come on, who else would be better for it?" he continues.  "... Kid's got a point, Matt." Eli replied.  "Because I'm a wanted felon aren't I?" Matt said looking at James.  he bows his head and curses under his breath "Hes right, there are outstanding warrants on him for murder, assault of  police officers, and illegally concealing a firearm."
"Maybe I can help with that." Eli pulled out his Interpol identification from under his coat, showed it to James "I'm sure we can work something out, given Matt's assistance in the 7 hour war and the fact these men were... Well, more than corrupt, right?"
Matt looked at his injury and then back at Eli. "No. I am going to stand trial... If I am exonerated then I can run for office."
James looked at Matt with a surprised look on his face. "I could hold the election off till your trial, there's still uncorrupt Judges on the Justice council that we didn't arrest, they'd be seeing your hearing."
"Fair enough... Don't think a jury would convict you either way." He puts his ID back "I'll still have to stay and watch over the trial though... Officially I'm here to make sure whatever happened in the nexus is resolved and handled properly" Eli replied. James looked at Eli and nodded then looks back to Matt. "I'm placing you under house arrest pending your hearing. Now I have go talk to the judges about delaying this trial till you are recovered." "Wait, if I remember correctly, isn't community housing no longer available to him?" Jacob pipes up again.
"We'll stick him in a hotel room. It's better than nothing" Eli suggest.
James looked at Matt again, "I may be able to set him up with something, after you were in this city for what? Four days?"

As they kept talking about where to house Matt in the meantime, some rather loud footsteps can be heard outside, a woman's voice in the distance as well "I'm going to bloody check on him before YOU people get him brain dead!-" Finally Joanna walked in through the door, she seems to be wearing a cleaner outfit than when Matthew found her in her apartment. Joanna looked at him, seemingly frozen for a second but then she turned around, looking out to the hallway as she yelled "You idiots! He woke up while you wanked around!-" Her voice has a rather worrisome tone to it, though she's not directly showing it. "Oh.. Boy.. She was pissed..."
"Nice to see you too Jo'" Matt pipes up. She turned around, looking at him sternly before quickly stepping towards Matthew, pushing everyone off and giving him a tight hug, making sure she kept the good side of her face towards him. "... Don't fucking scare me like that again, you hear me Old man?" Matt painfully reached over and gave her a one armed hug. "Yeah, next time someones shooting at me I'll remember to blast his head off first. So how much of my liver did they have to remove?"
she pulled away from the hug slowly, brushing some hair off her face "Not sure, they haven't precisely given me much info at a- wait... How'd you know it was your liver?" She asked. "Jo' I was a Doctor before you were even born, I was bleeding black, that's dirty blood and only comes out when its been punctured." Matt replied.
She nodded, sighing for a moment, she looked at the rest realized Matt might be feeling a bit crowded. "Alright people... Maybe we should give him some time to rest. He was out for 3 weeks." Matt started coughing choking on his own breath "Three weeks!?!" He yelled.
"Beat my previous record by a week..."

Eli nodded. "Yep... you've been asleep for quite a while to say the least"
"I think its safe to say that he deserved it.." Jacob said quietly.
Joanna looked to Jacob. "I'm pretty sure no one wants to catch a nap because of a bullet"
"Jo' had totally missed what the kid meant, but I didn't I haven't had some R&R since I had two legs..."
"Either way, I know a guy who owes both me and Matt a favor, I'm sure I can hook him up some place nice while we wait for the trial." James quickly inputted.
Joanna raised an eyebrow as James mentioned a trial. "... What trial?" Jacob put his face in his hands and then gently tapped her on the shoulder, "Let's just let him rest..." As they left Joanna kept asking James and Eli "What Trial!?!?"
"It wasn't over yet, I still had a long way to go, but for now, I had some peace and quiet, and a very painful recovery till my trial."
Matt rested his head back and closed his eyes and got some sleep.

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Matt hid under the staircase, quickly he heard the entrance a series of gun shots and then the massive metal doors opening. Quickly the henchmen ran down from the stairs and out the door and engaged the Police force. Matt continued to sit their waiting to hear the sound of the elevator with the main force reach the floor above him.
"I hated to wait knowing that out there people were dying, counting on me. Out of everyone that they could have used they picked me, the man who failed and failed over and over when he was needed the most... This time felt different, I felt different, something had changed, its impossible to describe...
I will not fail."
He heard the metal clack of the elevator reaching the bottom of the shaft and boots rushing down to fight the ever growing battle outside.
As the men rushed past him Matt made his move, quickly getting up the stairs and on to the elevator he hit the bottom and it took him up to the top of the nexus. "With in two days I managed to start a war, I think that was a record... I don't know what I expected to find when I reached the top, some cliche final battle with some strong henchman and then shooting down his escape helicopter or a firing squad waiting for me as an anti-climatic end to this stupid monologue."
Slowly Matt could hear voices up the shaft as he neared the top.
"God dammit, where are those reinforcements? And has anyone spotted the bastard yet?"
"No sir, but that should be the reinforcements up on the elevator, I'll check."
Matt got ready for this next fight.

As the elevator reached the top of the shaft Matt was faced to face with one of the henchmen.
The guy threw a blind right hook, Matt blocked it and countered with a punch to the gut. The man was wearing Kevlar but still bent over from the hit, Matt grabbed the back of his head and slammed it in to his rising knee.
"I didn't know if it hurt me more than it hurt him, but there may have been a smarter way to do that."
Matt saw behind the man someone rising a gun, Matt jumped towards the henchmen drawing and grabbed him around the back of the neck and used him for cover while he drew his revolver. Three shots range out and Matt could flee them penetrate the Kevlar and hit the other side of the vest, the bullets jabbed in to his gut leaving bruises but didn't penetrate. Matt brought the revolver up resting it on the dying mans shoulder and fired off three rounds when he thought he had a shot, Matt then turned now supporting the full weight of the man and shot another henchman trying to shoulder his rifle. As that man fell Matt saw Ivan sporting a revolver, Matt dropped the dead man and dove for cover as Ivan began to fire again.
"You just had to do it didn't you! You had to fuck everything up!" Ivan ranted still holding his wounded shoulder.
Matt flipped the revolver open and reloaded it, dropping the good shells on the ground and closes the cylinder remembering to index it.
Matt got up from cover when he heard Ivan try to reload, as he brought the pistol sight up he saw that he was deadly wrong, Ivan fired the revolver hitting Matt in the gut.

"The same familiar burning sensation ripped through me, I this had to be number ten on the list of how many times I've been shot. I had been too old for this shit for a very, very long time now." Matt spun and hit the ground firing off a quick shot to get Ivan behind cover. It had worked and Matt got up holding his revolver in one hand and his bullet wound in the other. "We could have worked together Old man! It didn't have to come to this!" Ivan shouted. Matt took a deep breath before screaming out: "MY NAME, IS MATTHEW ROOSEVELT HENDERSON!" Ivan jumped from behind cover, for a brief moment their eyes locked, both of them staring down the barrels of their foes.
"And here we are at last, the drunk one legged cyclops who had been off the booze for less than a day, verses a rich political slime ball who had corrupted an entire city for a profit. Neither of us were 'good people', but both of us knew what we stood for and were willing to die for it. That brief moment we both knew what was going to happen, the moment stretched on and on for what seemed like a million years and I'd never guess the outcome." A shot rang out in the massive metal room echoing through the very fabric of space and time its self. It was followed by a heavy thud of a body hitting the ground, the empty shell of someone who once was, someone whose luck had run out.