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Title: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on June 28, 2013, 01:59:51 PM
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The survey period is now over. Thank you all for expressing your opinions and thoughts. It will be a great help to our community.

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Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: JF on June 28, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
Good idea. You made a slight grammatical error though in question one: "2. What right now is stopping you from joining OCPR?"
I think this is a good step. Know what your customer wants and act upon it.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Xanawolf on June 28, 2013, 02:32:42 PM
Just finished filling mine out, hopefully OCRP will come back because i miss it.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Nicknero on June 28, 2013, 03:10:30 PM
Took it with my honesty.
I'm curious if this even helps or if we are going to see something change.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: hacker on June 28, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
Just Finished, hope it helps
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: OwenCobs on June 28, 2013, 03:15:56 PM
I dont mind OCRP but that OCPR is fucking shit.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on June 28, 2013, 04:45:09 PM
lol oops owel and yes I will ensure that this data is actually used to improve OCRP so we can all enjoy it again.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: rBST Cow on June 28, 2013, 05:20:45 PM
I'll take the survey in a sec, but I think the main reason why is because people just get tired of it, or a certain aspect of the game. With every game mode CG had, the same thing happens. If craphead or karma made more updates, on every other week or so, I'm sure activity will spike, but you'll need to keep the updates high. OCRP1.5 was better in my opinion because it had better activity because the whole point in OCRP1.5 was to grow weed and buy cars, now in OCRP2 the devs changed it so you made less money and it was basically 10x harder to get the cars. PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME TO GAIN THINGS. IE CARS, AND THEY GROW WEED TO GET THERE. That's OCRP, and you can't change that because a lot of the player base just like to grow (at least in OCRP1.5, but since OCRP2 made it harder to get weed and whatnot the player base dropped). You can't tell me that most people didn't grow in OCRP1.5, because then you'd be lying. The majority of people did grow, and for reasons that I've already stated. This may not apply to others, but I also liked the general atmosphere of OCRP1.5, but that's something which no developer, even Garry himself, can fix.


This is just my opinion on things, so please respect that.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on June 28, 2013, 05:45:46 PM
Keep in mind that you remain anonymous when you take this survey. Please fill it out to your complete honesty. I'm not afraid of heat. Dont flame me through it though. That's just pathetic.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Quarantine on June 28, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
This is a great idea, Statua. We've needed a way to get people's honest opinions on how to improve, and this is excellent.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: CrazyNinja on June 28, 2013, 09:27:07 PM
Well, I sent in a survey.  I mostly used brief responses since I wasn't in the mood to type much.  Maybe I'll retake the survey at another time if I can.  Regardless, a good idea to see what the playerbase think of the gamemode and what they want, don't like, and like about it.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Katazuro on June 28, 2013, 11:14:02 PM
Took most of it with my full thought about how OCRP is. I put a lot of heartfelt comments about administration in there because that's what's ruining OCRP as an entirety.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Goobuster on June 29, 2013, 02:29:11 AM
I would like to note here. As cow said, people play the game to get things. The economy is even, but if you upped it in all aspects(RP and Growing alike) it would increase population, thus increasing community population. Not sure if im suppose to go here, very ignorant comment if what I think matters doesnt matter, but if the population increased people would find it more rewarding to donate for cash, and the new players would feel more incline to pursue VIP/Gold.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: GrannyLad on June 29, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
Taken it, hopefully we can get players on again!
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: kronik on June 29, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
(http://puu.sh/3rk1m.png) this picture is necessary
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: FanaticWarren on June 29, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
(http://puu.sh/3rk1m.png) this picture is necessary

Little late on that. Already been pointed out
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: rBST Cow on June 30, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
(http://puu.sh/3rk1m.png) this picture is necessary

Little late on that. Already been pointed out

No offense kronic, but do read the replies to threads you post in?
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: wag1 on June 30, 2013, 10:06:39 AM
(http://puu.sh/3rk1m.png) this picture is necessary

dude i was going to

Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Pielolz on July 01, 2013, 02:04:09 AM
OCRP is a perpetual cycle of whoring weed and making mad bank, buying all the cars and turtling up in a house and pulling an isolationist policy that rivals that of 1930's America. Then those weed whores leave after their only incentive is gone, and sense they make up 99.9% of everyone, there isn't anyone on the server. Make weed riskier, and make crafting and government jobs more cost effective. That *may* work.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: rBST Cow on July 01, 2013, 04:41:52 AM
OCRP is a perpetual cycle of whoring weed and making mad bank, buying all the cars and turtling up in a house and pulling an isolationist policy that rivals that of 1930's America. Then those weed whores leave after their only incentive is gone, and sense they make up 99.9% of everyone, there isn't anyone on the server. Make weed riskier, and make crafting and government jobs more cost effective. That *may* work.

Growing weed and getting cars is the point in OCRP. People play tf2 for one reason; those hats. That game is so old and so boring but they keep adding more hats so people will play it more. If we switched back to ocrp1.5 with some of the cool features in OCRP2 that don't ruin the game and added more cars, I know for a fact that people would play it again.

Just keep adding a shitload of cars and allow more money to be made from weed like in ocrp1.5 and CG will be set.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: OwenCobs on July 01, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
Please show your opinion on the survey and do us all a favor and stop bickering in this thread.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Officer77 on July 01, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
I miss OCRP :(
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: kronik on July 01, 2013, 01:59:34 PM
(http://puu.sh/3rk1m.png) this picture is necessary

Little late on that. Already been pointed out

No offense kronic, but do read the replies to threads you post in?
why would anyone ever take offense to a question like that? and yes, I read the replies, but the picture made it better. I wasn't just pointing it out, the picture was just ~necessary~
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Goobuster on July 02, 2013, 05:35:07 AM
OCRP is a perpetual cycle of whoring weed and making mad bank, buying all the cars and turtling up in a house and pulling an isolationist policy that rivals that of 1930's America. Then those weed whores leave after their only incentive is gone, and sense they make up 99.9% of everyone, there isn't anyone on the server. Make weed riskier, and make crafting and government jobs more cost effective. That *may* work.

Growing weed and getting cars is the point in OCRP. People play tf2 for one reason; those hats. That game is so old and so boring but they keep adding more hats so people will play it more. If we switched back to ocrp1.5 with some of the cool features in OCRP2 that don't ruin the game and added more cars, I know for a fact that people would play it again.

Just keep adding a shitload of cars and allow more money to be made from weed like in ocrp1.5 and CG will be set.

Cow, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Niice, price of cigarettes went up again! Cant wait to buy a pack!" You make things harder to obtain, the more people that aren't going to find it worth the effort. Simple as that.

I don't see what is so different about OCRP 2 that people think it would be better to go back to OCRP 1.5. Its old content, and there was a reason the update went through. As for "Add more cars!", you dont just find a .jpg on google and upload it and Bam! theres a new car. Someone has to design it. The list isnt endless and if people arent happy with the way the car selection has changed, you never will be.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on July 02, 2013, 08:34:54 AM
OCRP is a perpetual cycle of whoring weed and making mad bank, buying all the cars and turtling up in a house and pulling an isolationist policy that rivals that of 1930's America. Then those weed whores leave after their only incentive is gone, and sense they make up 99.9% of everyone, there isn't anyone on the server. Make weed riskier, and make crafting and government jobs more cost effective. That *may* work.

Growing weed and getting cars is the point in OCRP. People play tf2 for one reason; those hats. That game is so old and so boring but they keep adding more hats so people will play it more. If we switched back to ocrp1.5 with some of the cool features in OCRP2 that don't ruin the game and added more cars, I know for a fact that people would play it again.

Just keep adding a shitload of cars and allow more money to be made from weed like in ocrp1.5 and CG will be set.

Cow, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Niice, price of cigarettes went up again! Cant wait to buy a pack!" You make things harder to obtain, the more people that aren't going to find it worth the effort. Simple as that.

I don't see what is so different about OCRP 2 that people think it would be better to go back to OCRP 1.5. Its old content, and there was a reason the update went through. As for "Add more cars!", you dont just find a .jpg on google and upload it and Bam! theres a new car. Someone has to design it. The list isnt endless and if people arent happy with the way the car selection has changed, you never will be.

you do realise there were still a bunch of cars from sickness that wernt used in ocrp at all, therefore all it needs is a car script and it adding into ocrp and kablam you got a new car and the millions and millions are satisfied for another couple of weeks
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Jake_1305 on July 02, 2013, 10:18:17 AM
To be honest - something new needs to be done. Whatever changes are made to OCRP people will enjoy for a couple of days, a couple of weeks even. A big change should happen, what should that be? Well nobody knows that answer but still. My two cents. I don't think it'll be very easy to get it to how popular it once was as people have just moved on and even with small updates, the fact remains that they have played it and got bored, so a small update or change won't make them play it for too much longer. Whereas something completely new or game changing would possibly make them stay longer. I dunno.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Channy on July 02, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
I really hope something comes out of this that will bring back OCRP. The only reason I am not playing is because nobody else is. Literally...that's the only reason..no other reasons. OCRP is great...as long as their are others online.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: FanaticWarren on July 02, 2013, 05:03:53 PM
OCRP is a perpetual cycle of whoring weed and making mad bank, buying all the cars and turtling up in a house and pulling an isolationist policy that rivals that of 1930's America. Then those weed whores leave after their only incentive is gone, and sense they make up 99.9% of everyone, there isn't anyone on the server. Make weed riskier, and make crafting and government jobs more cost effective. That *may* work.

Growing weed and getting cars is the point in OCRP. People play tf2 for one reason; those hats. That game is so old and so boring but they keep adding more hats so people will play it more. If we switched back to ocrp1.5 with some of the cool features in OCRP2 that don't ruin the game and added more cars, I know for a fact that people would play it again.

Just keep adding a shitload of cars and allow more money to be made from weed like in ocrp1.5 and CG will be set.

Cow, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Niice, price of cigarettes went up again! Cant wait to buy a pack!" You make things harder to obtain, the more people that aren't going to find it worth the effort. Simple as that.

I don't see what is so different about OCRP 2 that people think it would be better to go back to OCRP 1.5. Its old content, and there was a reason the update went through. As for "Add more cars!", you dont just find a .jpg on google and upload it and Bam! theres a new car. Someone has to design it. The list isnt endless and if people arent happy with the way the car selection has changed, you never will be.

you do realise there were still a bunch of cars from sickness that wernt used in ocrp at all, therefore all it needs is a car script and it adding into ocrp and kablam you got a new car and the millions and millions are satisfied for another couple of weeks

With the new TDM cars there are lots of cars to get now before we add new ones. Besides, when TDM releases a new car it will more than likely get added.

I really hope something comes out of this that will bring back OCRP. The only reason I am not playing is because nobody else is. Literally...that's the only reason..no other reasons. OCRP is great...as long as their are others online.

And this is the only reason no one plays, Because no one gets on.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Channy on July 02, 2013, 05:15:12 PM
I really hope something comes out of this that will bring back OCRP. The only reason I am not playing is because nobody else is. Literally...that's the only reason..no other reasons. OCRP is great...as long as their are others online.

And this is the only reason no one plays, Because no one gets on.
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Then perhaps we can plan an event for a certain date. We could then populate OCRP for a day, which might at least help a little bit.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on July 02, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
And this is the only reason no one plays, Because no one gets on.

No it's not.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Nicknero on July 02, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
No matter how many cars you add, or whatever else. People just grew over OCRP. It has lasted for a good 4-5 years now and it has been enough. Time to move on to new games. And with that I may as well mean new GAMES. And not just gamemodes on gmod.

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Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: rBST Cow on July 02, 2013, 06:47:40 PM
Please show your opinion on the survey and do us all a favor and stop bickering in this thread.

I don't know if you're saying this towards me or others, but nothing in the thread is bickering. It's all on topic and constructive. If someone kept bickering then I'm sure an admin would have dealt with it already.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Cogley on July 02, 2013, 07:37:27 PM
No matter how many cars you add, or whatever else. People just grew over OCRP. It has lasted for a good 4-5 years now and it has been enough. Time to move on to new games. And with that I may as well mean new GAMES. And not just gamemodes on gmod.

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That is not the problem, people grow over the games and new players come in, OCRP is the funnest gamemode i have ever played on GMOD.. All it needs is updates and admins to relax, admins were ban happy and barely gave warnings. To me that is one of the main reasons people have stopped playing, that is why i have
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Psycho29388 on July 02, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
I don't know what did it in for me but I put in a good 450 hours on OCRP 1.5 yet only 50 in OCRP2. I honestly don't know, maybe I just got tired of it.

I took the survey and answered as truthfully as I could.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: HAWK on July 02, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
 All it needs is updates and admins to relax, admins were ban happy and barely gave warnings. To me that is one of the main reasons people have stopped playing, that is why i have
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I Totally agree, First day, I Bunny hopped away from a Cop once and FailRPed my Accident, Got Permaed, First offence on the server.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on July 02, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
All it needs is updates and admins to relax, admins were ban happy and barely gave warnings. To me that is one of the main reasons people have stopped playing, that is why i have

I Totally agree, First day, I Bunny hopped away from a Cop once and FailRPed my Accident, Got Permaed, First offence on the server.
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Highly doubt you got perma'd just for that, that was definitely more to it.

But yeah, admins were neglecting to get on the server. Mainly due to stress and causing us to just get mad in real life, but hopefully we can get it changed.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: kronik on July 03, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
I can confirm that admins went way too far with punishments most of the time and never even bothered using the warning system
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Nicknero on July 03, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
I can confirm that admins went way too far with punishments most of the time and never even bothered using the warning system
Because of the huge amount of butthurt that was going on the server on a daily basis about people spamming /a with other people breaking rules.
And most of the time whoever was breaking rules was a little kid that had no idea what he was doing. And if you ever let them go with a warning, they just do it again by try not to get caught this time.
So honestly, punishing them with a ban was your only option.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on July 03, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
I pulled almost everyone up to let them know what was going on. And most of the time it would be a misunderstanding so based on their time here and warnings, I would give justfully give judgement. Most of the time it would be a warning and force rules because they were new. And guess what, after forcing rules I usually didnt have to see them ever again.

Granted there are the times I give someone a warning and they break the rule not 5 minutes later and complain about their ban but really, there's people like that and if they want to be like that then whatever. They can expect a perma soon.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Kasatka ??? on July 03, 2013, 07:34:52 PM
I am also one to give warning rather than just ban strait off. Although even if I do ban, I talk to them first so they know why they are ban. Hell even when talking to them I tell them to take their ban time and use it reading the rules so they don't get ban again. I do everything in my power to help people, some people just don't want it or think they are the high authority.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Keskjer on July 04, 2013, 01:30:15 AM
"Admins were ban happy" Cute... make a AC about? Honestly why complain about admins when we dont complain about players... No player deserves more then 2 warnings for breaking server rules when its there fault in the first place for breaking them... Yeah we have to at-least talk to the player before we ban them IE warn, but do we really need to tell you more then once to stop breaking the same rule over and over.

Back on topic, wondering what the polls are from this vote, very curious as to what players said.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on July 04, 2013, 01:54:59 AM
"Admins were ban happy" Cute... make a AC about? Honestly why complain about admins when we dont complain about players... No player deserves more then 2 warnings for breaking server rules when its there fault in the first place for breaking them... Yeah we have to at-least talk to the player before we ban them IE warn, but do we really need to tell you more then once to stop breaking the same rule over and over.

Back on topic, wondering what the polls are from this vote, very curious as to what players said.
This attitude, sadly, is the exact reason OCRP is dead right now. Most of the complaints we have are people complaining about banhappy administrators, which regardless of the bans being justified or not, is the reason we have no population. We tried to have a more serious approach compared to OCRP 1.5, with the same community that played OCRP 1.5. Not sure why we overlooked it but it makes sense that it wouldn't work out.

Not 100% certain as to when, but we're going to be redoing/removing a lot of rules and removing the bans for the rules that were removed. As great as even just semi-serious OCRP would be, it obviously isn't going to work.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Keskjer on July 04, 2013, 02:19:20 AM
Not 100% certain as to when, but we're going to be redoing/removing a lot of rules and removing the bans for the rules that were removed. As great as even just semi-serious OCRP would be, it obviously isn't going to work.

Not bad idea, and it'll probably work out.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Akise-Kun on July 04, 2013, 03:28:50 AM
Not try to flame or stress anyone else out anymore, but the reasons I and other stopped playing was because some rules you got banned over were silly e.g. "Being banned for talking in ooc in mic". People would find tell others how to play or what to do through mic because it's just simpler to do. Other than that, I will be playing again ASAP.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: rBST Cow on July 04, 2013, 03:31:43 AM
Not try to flame or stress anyone else out anymore, but the reasons I and other stopped playing was because some rules you got banned over were silly e.g. "Being banned for talking in ooc in mic". People would find tell others how to play or what to do through mic because it's just simpler to do. Other than that, I will be playing again ASAP.

Woah woah woah, you were actually banned for talking ooc on the mic? There must be more to this, but if it's the way you are putting it then that admin should be slapped in the quicks.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Akise-Kun on July 04, 2013, 08:35:14 AM
Not try to flame or stress anyone else out anymore, but the reasons I and other stopped playing was because some rules you got banned over were silly e.g. "Being banned for talking in ooc in mic". People would find tell others how to play or what to do through mic because it's just simpler to do. Other than that, I will be playing again ASAP.

Woah woah woah, you were actually banned for talking ooc on the mic? There must be more to this, but if it's the way you are putting it then that admin should be slapped in the quicks.
I wasn't banned myself for it but I was told on several occasions not to speak into mic while talking ooc or I could get banned.
Title: Re: OCRP2 and You
Post by: Statua on July 05, 2013, 02:44:49 PM
The survey is now closed and will be analyzed in the next 24 hours. I will do the best within my power to ensure some good comes out of this and that we can make OCRP more appealing to everyone. Thank you all for expressing your thoughts. The replies are excellent and bring light to a lot of areas we didnt necessarily know about.
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