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CG Central => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Scratchie on May 27, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
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Alright, so I've had this idea lately as to what to do with the cars. I've been looking at all the TDM cars and the sickness cars and frankly, I want to switch to TDM. But its the community at large who would be choosing.
If we were to switch:
- Cars that have a equivalent or near equivalent with TDM will be replaced. (with a few exceptions such as govt and mules/yankees)
- Cars that do not will be removed.
- Anyone who has a car that is removed will be refunded the value of the car.
- People will need to get the TDM svn or workshop files
- I would add more cars than if we were not switching
- Almost every car will be HQ.
If we were not to switch:
- A few TDM cars will be added
- It will be recommended to get the SVN or workshop but it will be integrated into the current content pack.
- Only a few cars would be HQ. Sickness cars would feel out of place
This will be an ongoing poll until I think theres enough input. Feel free to post what you think.
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I'm down for a switch. We could use a vehicle overhaul, People are getting tired of the same old cars.
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Don't replace current sickness cars with tdm cars. Remove all sickness vehicles, Wipe everything, refund, and add all tdm cars.
Then people can decide what they want to do with their refunded money.
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TDM is the only good maker of drivable vehicles in GMod. Sickness's models are terrible and way overused. Just wipe all of the vehicles completely and switch over. There's at least 1-2 alternative(s) for each Sickness car we currently have.
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If this means that we will have more variety and HQ cars, Hell yea I'm down. Also, I don't think there should be a 'replaced' TDM car. I would rather just be refunded the money I paid for my cars.
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Not only the fact that the cars are amazing, the scripts don't need to be tweaked any. So if this goes through it shouldn't take that long other than removed some unneeded code from the script
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Yes please, switch away!
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Don't replace current sickness cars with tdm cars. Remove all sickness vehicles, Wipe everything, refund, and add all tdm cars.
Then people can decide what they want to do with their refunded money.
This ^ I support
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Don't replace current sickness cars with tdm cars. Remove all sickness vehicles, Wipe everything, refund, and add all tdm cars.
Then people can decide what they want to do with their refunded money.
I like this idea. Especially if the cars keep similar pricing.
Would we get refunded for upgrades as well?
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Would we get refunded for upgrades as well?
This.
Some of my cars have every single upgrade (well 2 actually) which adds up to somewhere around 200k worth of upgrade each car.
Will people get this refunded as well?
Also, going by each player to check which cars he has to see how much money he should be refunded is going to be kinda hard work.
Third: could we have a list of all the cars that will be removed if this goes through?
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Would we get refunded for upgrades as well?
This.
Some of my cars have every single upgrade (well 2 actually) which adds up to somewhere around 200k worth of upgrade each car.
Will people get this refunded as well?
Also, going by each player to check which cars he has to see how much money he should be refunded is going to be kinda hard work.
Third: could we have a list of all the cars that will be removed if this goes through?
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All cars will be removed.
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Would we get refunded for upgrades as well?
This.
Some of my cars have every single upgrade (well 2 actually) which adds up to somewhere around 200k worth of upgrade each car.
Will people get this refunded as well?
Also, going by each player to check which cars he has to see how much money he should be refunded is going to be kinda hard work.
Third: could we have a list of all the cars that will be removed if this goes through?
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Obviously a script will be made on first spawn after the update that applies these changes, and will automatically refund money.
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Would we get refunded for upgrades as well?
This.
Some of my cars have every single upgrade (well 2 actually) which adds up to somewhere around 200k worth of upgrade each car.
Will people get this refunded as well?
Also, going by each player to check which cars he has to see how much money he should be refunded is going to be kinda hard work.
Third: could we have a list of all the cars that will be removed if this goes through?
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All cars will be removed.
No, only sickness. And that is what I meant. What cars are those? Since I have no clue which cars are sickness and which not.
(inb4 facepalm)
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As long as TDM cars handle better then Sickness, I'm down for switching.
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I dont mind downloading tdm. Dont add them to the FastDL though. I guarantee people will just hit cancel when their downloads are taking too long.
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Hahaha, I'm the only one that voted no.
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I dont mind downloading tdm. Dont add them to the FastDL though. I guarantee people will just hit cancel when their downloads are taking too long.
There are people who aren't very computer literate and don't understand how to install things manually. Those on the other hand who do, will probably be able to figure out that they can download it elsewhere.
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I dont mind downloading tdm. Dont add them to the FastDL though. I guarantee people will just hit cancel when their downloads are taking too long.
There are people who aren't very computer literate and don't understand how to install things manually. Those on the other hand who do, will probably be able to figure out that they can download it elsewhere.
We can also tell those who are technologically impaired to sub to all the TDM packs we use on the workshop.
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+support
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Yes do this please! And may I might add what the cars should be replaced to? I believe that the GTO stallion should be replaced with the 69 Camaro, they have the same speed, I checked. I LOVE THIS IDEA!
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Will we be getting some of the cars by SentryGunMan? He's made some TDM-like cars like a Ford Crown Victoria, both police and non-police, a Corvette ZR1, and a Ferrari F1 (Although I doubt we would be adding that). Just some more cars that could be necessary to add, like the Ford Crown.
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If we completely get rid of the Sickness models, then we have to transfer some of the content in it to the OCRP SVN because the pack isn't entirely cars, some of it includes map textures too.
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If we completely get rid of the Sickness models, then we have to transfer some of the content in it to the OCRP SVN because the pack isn't entirely cars, some of it includes map textures too.
Map textures are all packed into the map. The only thing the pack does is adds models into your gmod folder so you can spawn them and see them without errors them outside of the evocitys.
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I say get rid of sickness, compared to TDM they are nothing I feel. And TDM offers a lot more than what we currently have.
Plus I want a Jeep Wrangler :) Just look at my signature
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New cars would be very nice. I'm tired of Sickness models, they're old and bland.
I'd love to see his Dodge Ram and some of his classic American muscle cars in there.
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New cars would be very nice. I'm tired of Sickness models, they're old and bland.
I'd love to see his Dodge Ram and some of his classic American muscle cars in there.
Classic muscle would make me cream everywhere
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Tdm cars would be awesome. Will there be a corvette though?
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Im all for the tdm cars. I think refunding everyone for their cars and upgrades would be great though. It would kind of suck not being able to buy a car you really like because it didn't exist when you had the money.
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I say when you do the switch, refund everyone for their vehicles so they can buy new ones.
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I say when you do the switch, refund everyone for their vehicles so they can buy new ones.
As has been said, all removed cars will be refunded.
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I say when you do the switch, refund everyone for their vehicles so they can buy new ones.
As has been said, all removed cars will be refunded.
Musta missed that sorry ^.^
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Yes, this sounds like a great idea! Replace sickness.
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Instead of refunding cars directly into your wallet, we'll be using a credit system for cars. So let's say you spent 300k on cars previous to the switch - you'll have it refunded, but it'll be in credits that can only be spent on cars to prevent a huge influx of money in to the economy. In the future we may use this system with the CG store, allowing you to buy car credit at a 25% discount compared to the current ingame cash rates, and should that work well, we will probably disable ingame cash donations and only let people donate for car credit(besides VIP/gold/etc of course)
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Instead of refunding cars directly into your wallet, we'll be using a credit system for cars. So let's say you spent 300k on cars previous to the switch - you'll have it refunded, but it'll be in credits that can only be spent on cars to prevent a huge influx of money in to the economy. In the future we may use this system with the CG store, allowing you to buy car credit at a 25% discount compared to the current ingame cash rates, and should that work well, we will probably disable ingame cash donations and only let people donate for car credit(besides VIP/gold/etc of course)
I a m confused on this, so we won't be getting money, but we will be getting credits for cars on the server. Am I correcT? Let me know if I am or not please.
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Instead of refunding cars directly into your wallet, we'll be using a credit system for cars. So let's say you spent 300k on cars previous to the switch - you'll have it refunded, but it'll be in credits that can only be spent on cars to prevent a huge influx of money in to the economy. In the future we may use this system with the CG store, allowing you to buy car credit at a 25% discount compared to the current ingame cash rates, and should that work well, we will probably disable ingame cash donations and only let people donate for car credit(besides VIP/gold/etc of course)
I a m confused on this, so we won't be getting money, but we will be getting credits for cars on the server. Am I correcT? Let me know if I am or not please.
The system works similar to the bank. It is a bank that can only be used on cars.
(http://puu.sh/32O1u.png)
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Ok, I have some questions here:
First: How about the vehicle that TDM doesn't have that's useful to have. E.g. the ATV and the Shubert(My favorite vehicle).
Second: Is there a list or something with pictures so I can view all TDM cars? I have only seen some off them.
And Third: This is more like a statement than a question. If this goes through you have to add Volvo 242 Turbo!
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Ok, I have some questions here:
First: How about the vehicle that TDM doesn't have that's useful to have. E.g. the ATV and the Shubert(My favorite vehicle).
Second: Is there a list or something with pictures so I can view all TDM cars? I have only seen some off them.
And Third: This is more like a statement than a question. If this goes through you have to add Volvo 242 Turbo!
Some cars (atv, mule, yankee, various govt) are staying irregardless. The rest are gone. And just download the pack.
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Would i get refunded on the upgrades i spent on the cars aswell?
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Would i get refunded on the upgrades i spent on the cars aswell?
No.
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Make sure that you add a good variety of vehicles. I've seen servers use like a bunch of mediocre vehicles, then only two good-looking/fast cars, and those were the only two cars people bought. I would like to see multiple vehicles for each category, each serving its own purpose.
Approximately how many cars do you plan to add? There are a lot, so I can't imagine you using all of them. Also, how long do you think it will take before we start seeing this switch in-game?
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If we're using TDM Cars, there's no point in not adding them all. They are ALL on the SVN anyways, as well as they are ALL in one workshop download.
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If we're using TDM Cars, there's no point in not adding them all. They are ALL on the SVN anyways, as well as they are ALL in one workshop download.
I could be WAY wrong, but isn't there like hundreds or thousands of them that he made?
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If we're using TDM Cars, there's no point in not adding them all. They are ALL on the SVN anyways, as well as they are ALL in one workshop download.
I could be WAY wrong, but isn't there like hundreds or thousands of them that he made?
http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1184807
61 to be exact.
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random statistics i put together:
50 in ocrp2 right now
15 of those kept including govt cars
35 cars gotten rid of
109 total cars in the new update including cars gone
59 new cars added
74 total cas including govt cars
8 total govt cars
in total:
42 cars before
66 cars now
only not using 4 of the tdm cars (2 semis cause theyre all the same, the taxi, and a pickup)
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random statistics i put together:
50 in ocrp2 right now
15 of those kept including govt cars
35 cars gotten rid of
109 total cars in the new update including cars gone
59 new cars added
74 total cas including govt cars
8 total govt cars
in total:
42 cars before
66 cars now
only not using 4 of the tdm cars (2 semis cause theyre all the same, the taxi, and a pickup)
What pickup?! I don't hope it is the Dodge Ram you left out !! :(
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I'm totally up for a switch!
Something new would be nice. I'll only be happy if I get my money back for my cars, which the post did say.
Anywho, yes! Swiiiiiiiiiiitch!
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random statistics i put together:
50 in ocrp2 right now
15 of those kept including govt cars
35 cars gotten rid of
109 total cars in the new update including cars gone
59 new cars added
74 total cas including govt cars
8 total govt cars
in total:
42 cars before
66 cars now
only not using 4 of the tdm cars (2 semis cause theyre all the same, the taxi, and a pickup)
What pickup?! I don't hope it is the Dodge Ram you left out !! :(
that's for me to know and you to find out
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Karma, if the Ram isn't added I will personally find you, slap you, and steal all of your cookies.
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If we going to switch I hope we get refunded with the car upgrades too!
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If we going to switch I hope we get refunded with the car upgrades too!
RTLK already said no.
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Karma, if the Ram isn't added I will personally find you, slap you, and steal all of your cookies.
I will gladly help Wake! It's one of the most bad ass pickups you can get!
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If we going to switch I hope we get refunded with the car upgrades too!
RTLK already said no.
Yes I saw that. But I thought that was so outrageous so it couldn't be true. The upgrades cost more than the car (sometimes). E.g. I bought a lot of upgrades to my mini-van, and that's worth more than the car. So if you decide to not refund the upgrades too, that's just crazy.
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If we going to switch I hope we get refunded with the car upgrades too!
RTLK already said no.
Yes I saw that. But I thought that was so outrageous so it couldn't be true. The upgrades cost more than the car (sometimes). E.g. I bought a lot of upgrades to my mini-van, and that's worth more than the car. So if you decide to not refund the upgrades too, that's just crazy.
Same here, I got upgrades on my mini aswell and it will be a sad day if I don't get money back for them.
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You're getting full price back for your car. Consider the upgrades as a depreciation on them.
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No taxi? I don't see how it would hurt. Deff would add RP for those who try RPing taxi driver. I use a red car and drive people around RPing a red cab. Would be nice to have the dedicated car so people could buy and RP it.
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No taxi? I don't see how it would hurt. Deff would add RP for those who try RPing taxi driver. I use a red car and drive people around RPing a red cab. Would be nice to have the dedicated car so people could buy and RP it.
I wish the taxi skin for the golf would be fixed for this purpose alone. :(
That is the whole reason why I bought one in the first place.
But yeah the golf is sickness, so it's going to be removed anyways.
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No taxi? I don't see how it would hurt. Deff would add RP for those who try RPing taxi driver. I use a red car and drive people around RPing a red cab. Would be nice to have the dedicated car so people could buy and RP it.
I wish the taxi skin for the golf would be fixed for this purpose alone. :(
That is the whole reason why I bought one in the first place.
But yeah the golf is sickness, so it's going to be removed anyways.
And replaced with another Golf. TDM has a mini aswell.
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What about car upgrades? will those be refunded as well?
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What about car upgrades? will those be refunded as well?
It's been answered about 4 times already: No.
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What about car upgrades? will those be refunded as well?
...Please read the thread.
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Wait will Buses and ATVs will be changed to Tdm cars because I always hate a big error on the ATVs.
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Wait will Buses and ATVs will be changed to Tdm cars because I always hate a big error on the ATVs.
There is no ATV in the TDM pack, sadly. I've not checked the files for the new vehicles yet, but I assume that RTLK has replaced the bus. Or well, I'm pretty much 99.9% sure he has.
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Could someone post a link to the SVN link/workshop link to the cars?
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Could someone post a link to the SVN link/workshop link to the cars?
This should be it. http://gmod-dl.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TDMCarpack/
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
No, there is not one. Sorry.
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
No, there is not one. Sorry.
Damn it. No more chauffeur RP D: There is actually no other car I want xD
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
No, there is not one. Sorry.
Damn it. No more chauffeur RP D: There is actually no other car I want xD
you don't have to have a limo to chauffer you know
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Wait will Buses and ATVs will be changed to Tdm cars because I always hate a big error on the ATVs.
There is no ATV in the TDM pack, sadly. I've not checked the files for the new vehicles yet, but I assume that RTLK has replaced the bus. Or well, I'm pretty much 99.9% sure he has.
yes I did
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
No, there is not one. Sorry.
Damn it. No more chauffeur RP D: There is actually no other car I want xD
you don't have to have a limo to chauffer you know
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You do if I want to do it stylishly. I hope these new cars sound better, also. The others raped your ears -,-
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Is there a limo in the new pack? I haven't downloaded it yet.
No, there is not one. Sorry.
Damn it. No more chauffeur RP D: There is actually no other car I want xD
you don't have to have a limo to chauffer you know
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You do if I want to do it stylishly. I hope these new cars sound better, also. The others raped your ears -,-
These cars all have a sound file that goes to just that car, they sound almost exactly like the real car if not the exact same. Like the Comaro for instance.
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How wll we get our money back? Do we have to take screenshots or something.
Post Auto-Merged: May 29, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
92.1% have said yes so far. So I think its gonna happen................
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How wll we get our money back? Do we have to take screenshots or something.
Post Auto-Merged: May 29, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
92.1% have said yes so far. So I think its gonna happen................
It's happening.
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How wll we get our money back? Do we have to take screenshots or something.
Post Auto-Merged: May 29, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
92.1% have said yes so far. So I think its gonna happen................
It'll be automatic.
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Question, when/if you add this and when you want to colorize your car, will you use the same RGB solution as with the clothes or are you going to have presets?
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Question, when/if you add this and when you want to colorize your car, will you use the same RGB solution as with the clothes or are you going to have presets?
According to Karma, he would have to completely recode the current system in place for coloring vehicles. Therefore, when this gets released, we won't be seeing that feature for quite some time or any at any time in the future. However, there should be about 10-15 preset colors to choose from, that way variety is still apparent.
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Question, when/if you add this and when you want to colorize your car, will you use the same RGB solution as with the clothes or are you going to have presets?
Presets.
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I have a few things to say, first; will money for upgrades be refunded like underglow, headlights, license plate changes ect? Second, I think since EvoCity is sort of 3-4 "towns" the police should use the TDM Escalade and Dodge Charger and get the County Sheriff skin for the cars since all the regions like suburbs, industrial and lake houses are basically their own towns, it would make sense to have the police be deputys' for the Police Chief who would become the County Sheriff. I also think more flashy fire trucks and ambulances need to be added. Real ambulances especially have a lot of lights and I think the GTAIV ones look sort of cheesy.
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I have a few things to say, first; will money for upgrades be refunded like underglow, headlights, license plate changes ect? Second, I think since EvoCity is sort of 3-4 "towns" the police should use the TDM Escalade and Dodge Charger and get the County Sheriff skin for the cars since all the regions like suburbs, industrial and lake houses are basically their own towns, it would make sense to have the police be deputys' for the Police Chief who would become the County Sheriff. I also think more flashy fire trucks and ambulances need to be added. Real ambulances especially have a lot of lights and I think the GTAIV ones look sort of cheesy.
Please, learn to read. Money for upgrades will no be refunded and that's been covered quite a few times now, both in the thread and in numerous conversations with Karma in shoutbox, Teamspeak, and elsewhere, and I'm more than positive that by now he is probably tired of hearing that question.
Evocity isn't big enough to have two police forces, unless you're suggesting getting rid of the police force now and replacing it with a sheriff's office, which I think is an unnecessary change. As for lights on emergency vehicles, you have to take into account performance, though I'm not entirely sure in what way lights affect performance, but I am pretty sure they do.
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I pressed no, but I meant yes :/
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Only real problems i see with tdm cars are some of them are scaled improperly and 50% are right hand drive which i foresee confusion on what side of the road to drive on...
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Only real problems i see with tdm cars are some of them are scaled improperly and 50% are right hand drive which i foresee confusion on what side of the road to drive on...
Add a notice for the driving thing in the loading menua? Like HINT: All Forin cars are to be driven on the right side of the road as if it where an american car.
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Only real problems i see with tdm cars are some of them are scaled improperly and 50% are right hand drive which i foresee confusion on what side of the road to drive on...
Add a notice for the driving thing in the loading menua? Like HINT: All Forin cars are to be driven on the right side of the road as if it where an american car.
Its common sense. If people are to dumb to drive on the wrong side of the road its their fault.
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