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Title: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on April 20, 2012, 11:09:35 PM
He wanted me to post this and SatN said to do this too.

Steam Name: Carnivore 524
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:3708491
Character Name: Paul Haynes
Admin who issued PK: None yet(Character isn't PK'd but the people who killed him are letting him do this.
Reason for Un-PK: "
I was caught by simply a OOC time delay between OOC and IC, I saw the leg of a Hunter, ICLY I would have started running by then, but by the time I typed my /me they were already around the corner so they assumed they saw my face, when I ran and ditched my weaponry and contraband items they went up to me and claimed the remembered my face because of the time delay between OOC and IC."
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 21, 2012, 11:17:10 AM
 I appreciate you making this Juggernaut, If any of you are wondering why he posted it and not me, it's because I coulden't find in my login info, So, I'm just commenting to make sure you guys know this was asked to be made.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on April 22, 2012, 12:39:11 PM
I don't believe this PK should be voided. It was fully carried out and it was all IC. You rushed from D6 to D1 and the entire city was on alert. Hardly something that we can just lolvoid. You fully stressed you want to keep the character, but you should understand the dangers of returning to the city. This should be upheld.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 22, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
I did rush out of there, but if there are Hunters, I don't think you're going to be taking your time running away from them, and another thing, we're all in the same clothing aswell, so I don't think they would have even saw me at all, besides a part of my foot maybe, so we look all the same besides facial features and body structure.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Monkey with a gun on April 26, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
I do not understand, if you have not been Pk'd (according to OP) why is this appeal thread even made?
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on April 26, 2012, 04:51:36 PM
I do not understand, if you have not been Pk'd (according to OP) why is this appeal thread even made?
Because hes due to be PK'd but we're trying to get it appealed before an admin makes it so.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on April 26, 2012, 04:56:21 PM
No, you're incorrect. Your character, as it stands, IS PK'd. If an admin is not on to Pk your character through script then you grow some balls and delete him. Don't suggest that the's anything other than PK'd.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on April 26, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
No, you're incorrect. Your character, as it stands, IS PK'd. If an admin is not on to Pk your character through script then you grow some balls and delete him. Don't suggest that the's anything other than PK'd.
Before you go off like that, realize that it was an agreement that Carnivore had WITH the people amputating him but they're letting him do this first.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 26, 2012, 08:06:49 PM
Yes, They let me make this application, Neither of them said no to it, So, I'm not deleting it, or letting an admin PK it, until the PK is denied (If that happens.)
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on April 26, 2012, 10:54:09 PM
I should also note that I was one of the two people who amputated you. So saying that we had some sort of agreement is lying.

Regardless, an admin should decide if this character should or should not be PK'd. Because frankly, his character caused quite the event. An event that shouldn't simply be voided.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 27, 2012, 12:04:33 AM
From the two people, They both said it was fine, Then I charswapped after they said so, So, They did both agree.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on April 27, 2012, 12:26:50 AM
You are going to tell me that I agreed to something that I know I didn't...
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 27, 2012, 08:30:35 AM
I said clearly, In the torture room, That i'm going to do it, The other unit agree'd, and you did (Other Unit Is TSB.)
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Krisrules on April 27, 2012, 08:42:30 AM
From what i've read I understand that you sacrificed your physical location, for roleplaying your movement (Which is better than lol minge running). And for that reason i'm in support of your character NOT being pk'd, and the event being re-done.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on April 27, 2012, 09:19:30 AM
So... Why can't the event stay and it just be a TK?
I think that works for both parties because from what I'm hearing it was quite the event.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: SatN on April 27, 2012, 09:39:38 AM
I was the one who authorised the PK. I was the hunter you 'saw'. When I came around the corner, the time between you seeing my 'leg' and my full body around the corner would most likely be a sixth of a second or even quicker as I continually held down my 'Forward' key, leaving barley any time to acknowledge a leg before a body. When I came around the corner, you were standing in the District 6 Tunnel with your AR2 Pulse Rifle equipped speaking to a black-male. After 2-3 seconds the 'performing' sign popped up above your head. It was /me turns around and starts running' something along those lines. We gave you a good 20 or so seconds before pursuing in which we were hot on your trail, we could almost see you running at the end of the train-tracks tunnels. This gives you may two-seconds of us not seeing you to hide your stash, despite the odds, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, in which case after we were given a good 6-8 seconds to identify your face, as UU Engineered, Augmented and Altered creatures such as the hunter have much more detailed, and distance orientated vision then the standard humanoid, we could identify your face. After following hot on your trail, we caught you at the UCH, outside. You then argue we could not see your face, in that case, we have the back of your head, hair color, hair style, body shape, clothing standard, and posture to also identify you with.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: garry :D on April 27, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
It was only a matter of time that you were going to be PKed if you were indeed walking around D6 with an AR2 without a care in the world, as some people claim.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 27, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
Krisrules, I would gladley accept a TK, Or the event be re-done, Thanks.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 27, 2012, 10:26:44 PM
And, Oz, I was actually being cautious, I was leaving the entrance of D6, Then, Some guy starts talking to me..then the Hunters came.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on April 28, 2012, 03:09:43 AM
No offense Krisrules, but this decision should be handled by someone who did the event.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 28, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
Lance, Actually, It should be done by someone who wasen't on either side, Just like Court, It'd be unfair if the people who did somthing to someone else and they got to choose the punishment.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Carnivore329 on April 28, 2012, 01:06:38 PM
Plus, I would accept a TK, Even if it is for a few weeks or so.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: smt on April 28, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
you can use the edit button to avoid double posting
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: FPSRussia on April 28, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
I was on my DvL at the time of the incident and was in the search myself. You had PLENTY of time to react on the Incoming units. It hey went from d6 tunnels and I moved out with my squad back to the HAP. I saw you in front of the UCH and them coming. You saw them with clear vision and just stood there. It is your fault that you got PKed.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Mysterious Stranger on May 04, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
 +Support on un-PKing his chararacter. After reading the comments, I gave out my support. So yeah.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on May 10, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
I was on my DvL at the time of the incident and was in the search myself. You had PLENTY of time to react on the Incoming units. It hey went from d6 tunnels and I moved out with my squad back to the HAP. I saw you in front of the UCH and them coming. You saw them with clear vision and just stood there. It is your fault that you got PKed.
From the story he told me, he didn't think you guys were coming for him/ he didn't know that you could have ID'd him.
The reason why he wasn't moaning when this was going down was he didn't want to ruin the roleplay which I'll admit I do sometimes.


Also justice bump.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on May 11, 2012, 06:01:10 AM
Let this be a lesson to him and anyone else who thinks it's cool to walk around District six with a gun like it's candy.

And I don't get why you're bumping it if it's not your character.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on May 11, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
Let this be a lesson to him and anyone else who thinks it's cool to walk around District six with a gun like it's candy.

And I don't get why you're bumping it if it's not your character.
Because hes my steam friend(And friend ICly for that matter) a Doctor in the clinic(Which is nearly impossible to come by these days).

Now what I want to know is why are you taking this almost personally? I'm trying to get it appealed because it was more or less an event, hes a fairly good roleplayer who had no idea what the city was like, he kept'd the AR2 out because its his only weapon and the reports we've been getting about D6 in outlands makes it seem like a bigger hellhole then how we live.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Joke on May 11, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
To be fair...
Paul is a good RPer in my view, BUT it was a fucking stupid idea to go back to the city. I knew OOC that this was going to happen. Someone was going to die. And lots of havoc would happen. You went back to the city after we ICly just came back. Loads of people died and our leader went insane. What convinced you to go. "YEAH LETS GO TO THE CITY AND KICK ASS!" Is beyond me. Possibly give Paul another chance but let this be a massive lesson to everyone.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on May 11, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
To be fair...
Paul is a good RPer in my view, BUT it was a fucking stupid idea to go back to the city. I knew OOC that this was going to happen. Someone was going to die. And lots of havoc would happen. You went back to the city after we ICly just came back. Loads of people died and our leader went insane. What convinced you to go. "YEAH LETS GO TO THE CITY AND KICK ASS!" Is beyond me. Possibly give Paul another chance but let this be a massive lesson to everyone.
Because they put this unoutlands app up way the hell before Statua decided to do the event and go nutter.
But it wasn't reviewed until after the event.

And it wasn't to kick ass, Paul(And Kira wanted to go) went to more or less to see to it that the clinic gets a cell in the city(Or at least Kira did) and to have some new Roleplay.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: The Joke on May 11, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Either way I knew someone was going to die.
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: Orange - Cisco Certified on May 11, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
If he wanted to know what the city was like, why did he not just create another character and look around before jumping on his character with his AR2 going gun-ho
Title: Re: Paul Haynes PK appeal.
Post by: kronik on May 12, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
No offense Krisrules, but this decision should be handled by someone who did the event.
He simply said he supported the un-PK, he was not handling the situation himself.  Also, after reading through this, I'm going to deny it.  It was your choice to walk around with an AR2, you should have known the risks but you did it anyway; therefore it is your fault you were PKed.
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