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Backup Sections => HL2RP Development[ARCHIVE] => Suggestions => Topic started by: aeiou on January 05, 2014, 04:53:29 AM
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i post this per waffles request, that is all - i don't know how often i'll check in on this thread so keep that in mind
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KLeyKSkQ3AmBe3vZvlA7iNom4LhcKfVz7xHbS240PhA/edit#
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it is pretty
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what is PCON
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precinct controller
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while this idea sounds ok, i personally would prefer to use the division design for the CCA
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there's no reason to have 4 divisions when you have 10 members - at most it should be introduced later on by adding onto the system and moving people around
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i guess id be willing to give squads a try at the beginning, if i think about it i guess its ok for a small CCA when we are just starting back up then we could think about either divisions again or maybe even expanding the squads
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squads aren't really a defined size in this system, but divisions makes it sound a bit bigger than it really is
it's really just a preferred method of speak on my part, i suppose
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I agree with having a separate leader for Overwatch and MPF, although I disagree with everything else, I just don't like that structure, I much prefer having divisions as we've had them for a long time now.
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yeah having reread it again it does kinda just sound like divisions but renamed squads with some stuff removed
i think my final opinion on it is that id prefer to use division system over squads
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why would you split everyone up into different divisions that do different things - when you could get them all into two squads where they can choose to specialise if they wish? the one difference is that you don't get a separate name or new uniform or anything silly like that
there's absolutely nothing holding people back from experimenting with weapons (within reason), except in the old divisions where you had to stick to patrolling and socio if APEX, if GRID you had to do engineer stuff and if NOVA you had to do medical stuff - in this everyone works together because they're the same squadron, just that some people may be combat medics or like to tinker with weapons
tl;dr: why have 4 different divisions that do nothing of the same sort when you can have two squadrons where everyone works together instead of having a bunch of closed off unsocial dumbs locked away in a room 24/7
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everyone can still work together with 4 separate divisions
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i see squads that do the exact same thing conflicting with each other on who is better and cause a lot of drama
id still rather stick to divisions
EDIT: and yeah, 4 divisions can still work together like smt said, theres nothing stopping them from doing so with divisions
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are you saying the elitism between divisions didn't cause drama - or the fact that sometimes we had to go around beating GRID+NOVA with a stick to get them to do their patrols
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and this will be different how?
medical units will only do medical things unless we make them and mechanical units will do their own thing and patrol units will be tired of patrolling and higher ranked units are still higher ranked than lower units its just a confusing system that won't work and will be confusing for many
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elitism will be much worse in squads when they start competing with each other on who is better etc
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how will the elitism between squads differ from divisions, exactly? you just called squads a rename of divisions then said the elitism would be bad
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how will the elitism between squads differ from divisions, exactly? you just called squads a rename of divisions then said the elitism would be bad
it wont differ it will be the same so why do this at all? it doesn't help or change anything its just confusing for people who aren't used to the system and thats not rly gonna help when this time we're directly competing against another hl2rp server to regain players
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well at the end of the day i see having 4 divisions that can specialise in stuff over 2 squads that do everything and having no difference between each other to be a better long-term plan
i would prefer to have divisions, that is what id prefer and by the sounds of it, others would prefer too
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how is spreading them across divisions gonna help any if you have a total of 7 unit members? most of them are going to want to go into a specialised division, lessening the amount of units that actively patrol. then there's the fact that most division leaders tend to protect their members from patrols when they're not patrolling units - but feel free to create a clusterfuck of divisions with 4 members each
with that said i see no reason for this being a suggestion to keep active since everyone wants to keep their precious little divisions anyway, so have fun with the revive (not actually sarcasm, i hope you have fun)
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well sorry you are upset because we dont agree with your idea but as you can see, it looks like quite a few people would prefer to have divisions rather than squads, plus divisions would be better in the long-term too
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2 people replied, and i'm not upset - it was simply a suggestion that i sent to waffle is all! he liked it and asked me to post it on here
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I also agree with ota and cca not under the same command. However everything else. No. This system would require more activity from everyone and i dont know about you but i dont exactly have all the time in the world anymore and neither do a number of our players.
With divisions we still have multiple leaders people aren't assigned to so there's more coverage. It's also more dynamic and had worked well in the past. While I'm open to new ideas, this one raises to many concerns.
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BTW I did not lock this. Whoever, did, please post a reason.
Post Auto-Merged: January 05, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
Unlocked. Next time someone locks something, post about it. Getting blamed for something I didn't do isn't exactly how I like to spend my Sundays.
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i locked it
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Sad face, not sure why you lock it. Ummm, ima post anyways. I like the idea. Its simple as fuck, and thats kind of what we need right now. Sure later down if the server keeps its players and starts to grow we can grow the MPF into a more elaborate force, adding 'devisions' etc. But for a reset and new start, this is a pretty straight forward way.
imo no need to lock the thread as its still relevant until the HL2RP devs/owner say other wise. Every post is valued no mater if the op think it is or not.
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I unlocked this again. This is an idea that is worth discussing and alex doesn't get to decide whether or not it gets locked.
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alex doesn't get to decide whether or not it gets locked.
ty some ppl have a real complex of just removing/locking/completely separating them selves from things they dnt like instead of talkin about it.....
i forgot what i was gonna post before i was rudely locked away so our opinions cannot be shared however the main reason behind this massive change that no one will be used too is that units dont patrol then just make them patrol n if the dvls are protecting them punish the dvls
this is gonna be so confusing for any hc unit trying to work out which unit can do what if everyones name is the same the radio is just gonna be WHICH UNITS CAN DO THE MEDICAL???? instead of just taking 1 unit from each division you need for a certain task which has worked completely perfectly for the past 2 years idk why we'd make this system that adds more problems then it fixes
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I unlocked this again. This is an idea that is worth discussing and alex doesn't get to decide whether or not it gets locked.
pretty sure alex gets to decide whether or not to lock his own thread