Catalyst Gaming
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Keskjer on September 23, 2013, 06:25:04 PM
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So some of you probably know that I use a imac. And we all know that its not cut out for gaming. So I figured I might as well see some opinions and views on a set up my friend made, and see what setups yall might have for me. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1GkkV So my budget is $1500. It needs to be great for gaming, thats all that I'll be doing on it. No videos, no youtubing just games on steam mostly;ARMA2, GTA IV with some mods, ARMA 3 if that turns out to be better then arma 2, gmod etc etc. 1500 is the max, the build I had was at around 1480 but is now 1560 or something.
Feel free to add accessories as I don't have a keyboard etc etc.
If I do pick out your design I'll let you know, and tell you how it turned out on my end.
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Unless you've got a specific use(anything that'll actually utilize hyperthreading, video editing etc) for an i7 an i5 will do just fine. I'd also recommend dropping the sound card unless you've got a use for it.
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if you are going to play arma 3/arma 2, then invest in a good vidya card. its a /very/ demanding game. my two overclocked gts450's can only get about 20 fps in cherno (but outside of it i do just fine)
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Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and dont have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
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DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and dont have one. Make sure its DVD))
doesnt have to be a dvd drive, could also be blu-ray drive like i have one
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DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and dont have one. Make sure its DVD))
doesnt have to be a dvd drive, could also be blu-ray drive like i have one
That works too but I was more relating to CD Drive as most software comes on DVDs now. KJUN said he only wants to do gaming so I dont think spending an extra $50 for a BD Drive is financially wise.
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DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and dont have one. Make sure its DVD))
doesnt have to be a dvd drive, could also be blu-ray drive like i have one
That works too but I was more relating to CD Drive as most software comes on DVDs now. KJUN said he only wants to do gaming so I dont think spending an extra $50 for a BD Drive is financially wise.
if you fancy watching a film on your PC that needs bluray it might be handy lol
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Thanks for all the input guys. I was looking around on some other forums and was seeing that I can get quality for cheap. $900 vs. $1500. So i figured I'd cut my price range down to around $900-$1000 being max. And the extra bit of money can go to upgrading it down the road if I ever needed to.
Now using Statuas method
Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and don't have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
I tried to make a new build.... that didn't really come around the budget I was thinking. Here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HfLG
If someone could kindly build me a computer or atleast tell me what I should be looking at for the price range, that'd be great.
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Thanks for all the input guys. I was looking around on some other forums and was seeing that I can get quality for cheap. $900 vs. $1500. So i figured I'd cut my price range down to around $900-$1000 being max. And the extra bit of money can go to upgrading it down the road if I ever needed to.
Now using Statuas method
Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and don't have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
I tried to make a new build.... that didn't really come around the budget I was thinking. Here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HfLG
If someone could kindly build me a computer or atleast tell me what I should be looking at for the price range, that'd be great.
Are you sure 250gb will be enough? If you are downloading a lot of games on steam the space can be used up really quickly. In the build I'm getting, I'm going to get 2TB just because of the amount of space I use up, most of it is just video games. If you get mods for ArmA, like city life, that takes up a big chunk of your memory too. Other than that, look into Logitech keyboards. Don't buy those "gaming" keyboards, it's just a huge waste of money. Logitech sells quality items at a good price. Razer is nothing but a ripoff.
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Thanks for all the input guys. I was looking around on some other forums and was seeing that I can get quality for cheap. $900 vs. $1500. So i figured I'd cut my price range down to around $900-$1000 being max. And the extra bit of money can go to upgrading it down the road if I ever needed to.
Now using Statuas method
Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and don't have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
I tried to make a new build.... that didn't really come around the budget I was thinking. Here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HfLG
If someone could kindly build me a computer or atleast tell me what I should be looking at for the price range, that'd be great.
Are you sure 250gb will be enough? If you are downloading a lot of games on steam the space can be used up really quickly. In the build I'm getting, I'm going to get 2TB just because of the amount of space I use up, most of it is just video games. If you get mods for ArmA, like city life, that takes up a big chunk of your memory too. Other than that, look into Logitech keyboards. Don't buy those "gaming" keyboards, it's just a huge waste of money. Logitech sells quality items at a good price. Razer is nothing but a ripoff.
After reading your post, i agree that 250gb wont be enough, so I added a 2TB. Which will probably be taken up due to the amount of games i will be DLing and mods with it. Though I'm very good at space management on my current computer, however thats due to the limits I have on games.
Here is my current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hh6x
Pretty much at my price range currently. Opinions please.
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Thanks for all the input guys. I was looking around on some other forums and was seeing that I can get quality for cheap. $900 vs. $1500. So i figured I'd cut my price range down to around $900-$1000 being max. And the extra bit of money can go to upgrading it down the road if I ever needed to.
Now using Statuas method
Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and don't have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
I tried to make a new build.... that didn't really come around the budget I was thinking. Here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HfLG
If someone could kindly build me a computer or atleast tell me what I should be looking at for the price range, that'd be great.
Are you sure 250gb will be enough? If you are downloading a lot of games on steam the space can be used up really quickly. In the build I'm getting, I'm going to get 2TB just because of the amount of space I use up, most of it is just video games. If you get mods for ArmA, like city life, that takes up a big chunk of your memory too. Other than that, look into Logitech keyboards. Don't buy those "gaming" keyboards, it's just a huge waste of money. Logitech sells quality items at a good price. Razer is nothing but a ripoff.
After reading your post, i agree that 250gb wont be enough, so I added a 2TB. Which will probably be taken up due to the amount of games i will be DLing and mods with it. Though I'm very good at space management on my current computer, however thats due to the limits I have on games.
i have a 1TB hard drive with 77 games installed, a bunch of music and a lot of HD anime videos and i have 280GB free space, so yeah 1-2TB will be enough
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Stick to one site. I personally love www.newegg.com and www.memoryexpress.com (but mX is canadian only :3) since they have such a wide variety of things with chances at discounts. I'll try to dig up a build I made for my friend thats geared toward gaming and costs ~$750. It will do what you want.
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http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Illuminated-Ultrathin-Keyboard-Backlighting/dp/B001F51G16
I'd get that instead, it's what I have currently and much cheaper than that keyboard. I've been using the keyboard for about ~3 years and it works perfectly fine, as if I got it yesterday(but that's how all Logitech things are).
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Thanks for all the input guys. I was looking around on some other forums and was seeing that I can get quality for cheap. $900 vs. $1500. So i figured I'd cut my price range down to around $900-$1000 being max. And the extra bit of money can go to upgrading it down the road if I ever needed to.
Now using Statuas method
Prioritize your funding in this order:
Video Card (if you can afford it, go nvidia for PhysX support)
CPU (no i7, i5 will do fine and if you get a god number, should do well for most games)
MoBo (make sure your gpu wont kill your board)
Power Supply (600w is adequate but 750w is recommended)
RAM (6+ GB, especially if you play PS2, RAM is cheap)
HDD (as long as its not a laptop drive and you're not impatient, get anything you want)
DVDD (pay the extra $10 for one that burns. It sucks when you need one and don't have one. Make sure its DVD)
Case (too many people buy the biggest case and the worst parts)
I tried to make a new build.... that didn't really come around the budget I was thinking. Here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HfLG
If someone could kindly build me a computer or atleast tell me what I should be looking at for the price range, that'd be great.
Are you sure 250gb will be enough? If you are downloading a lot of games on steam the space can be used up really quickly. In the build I'm getting, I'm going to get 2TB just because of the amount of space I use up, most of it is just video games. If you get mods for ArmA, like city life, that takes up a big chunk of your memory too. Other than that, look into Logitech keyboards. Don't buy those "gaming" keyboards, it's just a huge waste of money. Logitech sells quality items at a good price. Razer is nothing but a ripoff.
After reading your post, i agree that 250gb wont be enough, so I added a 2TB. Which will probably be taken up due to the amount of games i will be DLing and mods with it. Though I'm very good at space management on my current computer, however thats due to the limits I have on games.
Here is my current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hh6x
Pretty much at my price range currently. Opinions please.
Don't cut short on your GPU. The GTX 660Ti is well worth it over the GTX 650. Also, are you going to be doing any overclocking to your CPU? If not, don't get a CPU cooler. Standard heatsink and fan with a dot of thermal paste works fine.
Honestly, if you're able to afford it, I'd say go with this. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HkJL
Are you able to get Windows 7 by any other means? If so, that'd save a ton of money.
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Honestly I've seen windows 7 cheaper here then any where else. not really planing on overclocking, just wanted to make sure I had a system to cool my CPU so theres no chance of it overheating. (my way of playing it safe)
I'm able to afford a good bit, but if I don't have to fork over a lot of money I don't want to.
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Teehee. Other means. The G710 is a mechanical keyboard. If thats what you're looking for, go for it. I have a G510 which has macros that I use often in many games and even in hammer, and it has a neat little monochromatic LCD you can use for whatever. I just use it for time and monitoring of hardware (temps, workload, etc) but lots of games have applets that work with it. All depends on what you want.
If you want responsive and abuse taking, get the 710. If you just want a nice looking backlight board, go with cow. If you want some macro keys you can bind and a screen to monitor your computer, get the 510.
Now, as for the parts, here's a combination of hardware that will give you the power you need and are reliable, and all from the same place so you dont pay $100 on shipping from multiple spots. I compiled this list with moderate budget in mind as well as the help of my roommate who does this for a living and my buddy who is a computer enthusiast:
Power (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256071) (Is adequate for this setup and some upgrades in the future)
CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284) (If you like intel, go for that but you'll need a diff mobo)
Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127711) (wont let you down)
Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161594) (I've seen Planetside hit the 3.5gb mark, this is cheapter then 6gb)
MoBo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873) (this board has loads of room for expansion)
HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339) (Nothing too fancy. Will load games just fine)
DVDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204) (Basic but will work just fine)
As for the operating system and case, I'll let you decide what you want to do.
All this will be about $810 before taxes and shipping. Add on windows 7 and whatever case you want and you're looking at somewhere around $940. (assuming 100 for the OS* and 30 for your case)
*Based off neweggs price for W7 Home Premium OEM, poke me for the pros and cons of OEM
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Welp, thanks everyone who posted. All of your suggestions and opinions are valued and I should be getting a new computer soon! So I'll make a thread about that later on. Still looking into alts for some parts, but all in all I think I got a good build.
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I have a proposition for you KJUN. I just upgraded my PSU and GPU. So now I have a perfectly good GTX 560 Factory OCed and 600W power supply that I need to get rid of. I would be willing to sell them to you really cheap. :D
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I have a proposition for you KJUN. I just upgraded my PSU and GPU. So now I have a perfectly good GTX 560 Factory OCed and 600W power supply that I need to get rid of. I would be willing to sell them to you really cheap. :D
If you want to, and are willing to, feel free to PM the price that your willing to sell them at, and I'll get back to you on it. : )
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K I pmed you. :D
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Okay KJUN I took a look at your budget and what and what you want to run, here is the parts and their prices. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1NXh8. Yes the hard drive is not a ssd. The only real difference between SSD and HDDs, is SSD is faster to boot up that's about the only real advantage. So yea the one listed there might not be as fast on boot up but 2 TB should be plenty. Second thing is you don't a 500 dollar graphics card to run all games on HD. This one will still be great and its about 300 dollars less. Third change is you want 16GB of RAM not only 8. RAM is frankly cheep and it speeds up your entire system overall. This will make up for not having a huge overly priced graphics card, and will make the system run faster overall. I kept the same case and stuff you picked out. The fan is also changed you don't need a really expensive one for the simple fact that your processor dosen't need all that power to cool it. I also found a power supply because that wasn't listed. Overall you saved about 400 dollars that you can put towards other things in the future. I hope I helped if you have an questions on how to assemble and troubleshoot shoot me a message. Hope it helped.
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Okay KJUN I took a look at your budget and what and what you want to run, here is the parts and their prices. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1NXh8. Yes the hard drive is not a ssd. The only real difference between SSD and HDDs, is SSD is faster to boot up that's about the only real advantage. So yea the one listed there might not be as fast on boot up but 2 TB should be plenty. Second thing is you don't a 500 dollar graphics card to run all games on HD. This one will still be great and its about 300 dollars less. Third change is you want 16GB of RAM not only 8. RAM is frankly cheep and it speeds up your entire system overall. This will make up for not having a huge overly priced graphics card, and will make the system run faster overall. I kept the same case and stuff you picked out. The fan is also changed you don't need a really expensive one for the simple fact that your processor dosen't need all that power to cool it. I also found a power supply because that wasn't listed. Overall you saved about 400 dollars that you can put towards other things in the future. I hope I helped if you have an questions on how to assemble and troubleshoot shoot me a message. Hope it helped.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm still working on a build. this will help a lot. I do think I have enough help from those who posted, and I feel confident for getting the parts, so I'm going to lock this. Thanks all!