This isn't a vanilla survival if you're just going to regulate how to survive, and play the game how it's meant to be played. Might as well make it a roleplaying server if you have to regulate raiding. And about that "just because there's no rule on it doesn't mean it exists," is a surefire way to have people get smart on you. You need rules set in stone, not some lazy oxymoron of an excuse. Players need to know what they can and can't do, without stressing administrators. Previous servers like Adam's were much better handled. You're just asking for all the right things to go wrong. As much as I show hostility, it's not. I don't intend any offense - just being the messenger boy of my thoughts.Reading the board, hell, so much of the disagreement of administration and clear communication is obviously throwing the server off.
Quote from: Katazuro on April 09, 2013, 12:54:42 AMThis isn't a vanilla survival if you're just going to regulate how to survive, and play the game how it's meant to be played. Might as well make it a roleplaying server if you have to regulate raiding. And about that "just because there's no rule on it doesn't mean it exists," is a surefire way to have people get smart on you. You need rules set in stone, not some lazy oxymoron of an excuse. Players need to know what they can and can't do, without stressing administrators. Previous servers like Adam's were much better handled. You're just asking for all the right things to go wrong. As much as I show hostility, it's not. I don't intend any offense - just being the messenger boy of my thoughts.Reading the board, hell, so much of the disagreement of administration and clear communication is obviously throwing the server off.We've been trying to make it a factions server since before we moved onto the CG box, but progress towards that end has been painfully slow. And as for the rules, we quickly realized that if you give your average CG member an ounce of vagueness in the rules, it will be exploited to high hell. I do have a plan to improve admin communication and add in some standardization of admin actions instead of arbitrary punishments that I shall try and put into effect tomorrow, after I come back from the dentist.Things should improve drastically in a few days' time.
>No matter what happens, no matter how old I get.>I'll never forget...>Fats Mcgee. And his Retard Three.
Factions probably aren't going to happen. When I get some free time, though I don't know when as I work everyday this week right after school, I'm going to start revamping everything. Rules will be set, in extreme detail, and strict. Riemer already said it. Most CG players find enjoyment out of trying to exploit rules instead of playing the damn game, and quite frankly it pisses me off. There aren't going to be many rules regarding killing besides what already exists. It's plain and simple: If you're just walking down the road and someone else is walking down the road, don't pull out your sword ad just kill them, collect their stuff, and walk away.
So this is basically restricted survival, in the sense that you're free to operate within somewhat stupid rules? Yes I can kill people, but they must be doing an infringement against my current actions? The comparative between your description of rules and that of Gmod RP is outright daft; Minecraft and Gmod RP are two different kettles of fish and to treat them the same is foolish in its own right.If I felt someone was a threat to my town and I thought he had items on him worth salvaging, surely in the realm of Minecraft survival I could waltz over to him and rip his body asunder? At times the rules seem to play-out more like DRM of an EA game — you punish those which abide over those which disobey.That's just my opinion on this matter anyway.
Also we need to think of a way to make whitelist applications harder, since right now any hurr and derp can get on the server to grief.Heck, it even happened yesterday/today. Two of the bigger places to completely griefed to such a point where repairs are either going to be extremely hard, or just starting over completely unless we do a rollback, which is only going to be worse the longer it takes to find some free time for you. :c
Quote from: DrMoChaCoGeance on April 08, 2013, 04:10:46 PMSo this is basically restricted survival, in the sense that you're free to operate within somewhat stupid rules? Yes I can kill people, but they must be doing an infringement against my current actions? The comparative between your description of rules and that of Gmod RP is outright daft; Minecraft and Gmod RP are two different kettles of fish and to treat them the same is foolish in its own right.If I felt someone was a threat to my town and I thought he had items on him worth salvaging, surely in the realm of Minecraft survival I could waltz over to him and rip his body asunder? At times the rules seem to play-out more like DRM of an EA game — you punish those which abide over those which disobey.That's just my opinion on this matter anyway.THIS ^^^ Gmod IS a roleplaying game.... minecraft is not. they are two different games. I like roleplaying but when it comes to minecraft it can be done but minecraft is a survival gamemode and if PVP is on people should be able to engage in combat. When making rules for this server we need to step AWAY from our Gmod Ideologies and take a fresh look at how minecraft is a different game from Gmod that is a primarily a survival game and not a RP game.
Quote from: Officialjake on April 09, 2013, 10:15:29 AMQuote from: DrMoChaCoGeance on April 08, 2013, 04:10:46 PMSo this is basically restricted survival, in the sense that you're free to operate within somewhat stupid rules? Yes I can kill people, but they must be doing an infringement against my current actions? The comparative between your description of rules and that of Gmod RP is outright daft; Minecraft and Gmod RP are two different kettles of fish and to treat them the same is foolish in its own right.If I felt someone was a threat to my town and I thought he had items on him worth salvaging, surely in the realm of Minecraft survival I could waltz over to him and rip his body asunder? At times the rules seem to play-out more like DRM of an EA game — you punish those which abide over those which disobey.That's just my opinion on this matter anyway.THIS ^^^ Gmod IS a roleplaying game.... minecraft is not. they are two different games. I like roleplaying but when it comes to minecraft it can be done but minecraft is a survival gamemode and if PVP is on people should be able to engage in combat. When making rules for this server we need to step AWAY from our Gmod Ideologies and take a fresh look at how minecraft is a different game from Gmod that is a primarily a survival game and not a RP game.Exactly like you said yourself, step away from Gmod.Minecraft is not fortwars, I don't want to build an impossible to raid fort just because there are some idiots around that love to steal and destroy stuff.Minecraft is also not counterstrike or whatever fucking gamemode you want, it is about survival together. Not kill each other because you feel like it.Minecraft started as a singleplayer survival game. The goal is to collect resources and create a base to protect yourself from Mobs, who spawn at night. The whole purpose of this making it multiplayer is so you can build a base together, and collect resources together. Not to destroy each other's base because whatever horrible reason you have.
Exactly like you said yourself, step away from Gmod.Minecraft is not fortwars, I don't want to build an impossible to raid fort just because there are some idiots around that love to steal and destroy stuff.Minecraft is also not counterstrike or whatever fucking gamemode you want, it is about survival together. Not kill each other because you feel like it.Minecraft started as a singleplayer survival game. The goal is to collect resources and create a base to protect yourself from Mobs, who spawn at night. The whole purpose of this making it multiplayer is so you can build a base together, and collect resources together. Not to destroy each other's base because whatever horrible reason you have.
Quote from: Nicknero1405 on April 09, 2013, 10:27:15 AMExactly like you said yourself, step away from Gmod.Minecraft is not fortwars, I don't want to build an impossible to raid fort just because there are some idiots around that love to steal and destroy stuff.Minecraft is also not counterstrike or whatever fucking gamemode you want, it is about survival together. Not kill each other because you feel like it.Minecraft started as a singleplayer survival game. The goal is to collect resources and create a base to protect yourself from Mobs, who spawn at night. The whole purpose of this making it multiplayer is so you can build a base together, and collect resources together. Not to destroy each other's base because whatever horrible reason you have.as far as i know your base was raided on multiple occasions because you thought it'd be a good idea to build near spawn and stock your chests up with useful stuffthat whole 'survival' concept you're going on about was people nicking your shit and breaking things apart in the process to find it because they need it to surviveif you want to make a giant pretty fort with flowers and big farms and trees and pretty roses you'd be better off getting a private MC server for your personal friends only because not everybody has the same concept of MC survival as you