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Title: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
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*MAP POLL*

PLEASE READ THE TEXT BELOW BEFORE VOTING!

To make everything clear, i've put some details below, so you know what you are voting for.

1. Release with RP_EvoCity_V2D.
Releasing with v2d, will mean that we will be releasing with v2d (surprise). If the server goes really well, and gets a lot of popularity, we will switch to a bigger map, such as v33x. Releasing with v2d will mean that we will for sure have a good amount of people.

2. Release with RP_EvoCity_V2D, and CHANGE to RP_EvoCity_V33X on Sep 24th.
Releasing with v2d, but changing to v33x on the release of GMod 13 (24th September). We will start out with a small and simple map, such as v2d, to see how things evolve with OCRP2, if it gets popular and such, but when the big gmod update, with a lot of changes and optimizing gmod, we will switch to v33x with a big event. This will give as a chance to see how OCRP2 works out on both maps.

3. Release with RP_EvoCity_V33X.
Releasing with v33x will mean that on the public release of OCRP2, we will be running v33x. If things stick well, we gain donations and players, we will stick with this map, if popularity falls, we will switch back to v2d.

These are the 3 options. Hopefully, everybody is clear with what they are voting for.
Go ahead and post your personal opinion below.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 06:48:04 AM
My personal opinion would be to vote for number 2. It seems as the best solution. With option number 2, we get to see how OCRP2 rolls. We will gain a huge population on v2d, and everybody knows it. RP might be slightly worse, but it gives us a good chance to gain people, which we can then move over to GM13, when all hell breaks loose on the release of that (which we of course are ready with OCRP2 right away).

Would be nice to hear what others think, instead of JUST voting and leaving the thread.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Rory on August 08, 2012, 07:31:22 AM
Rockford.

Warning issued for 1 word posting. You know this :c ~ Crap-Head
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Alex on August 08, 2012, 07:55:52 AM
Chose option two because its a good way to take things if it doesn't work out well for OCRP2, V33x has loads of passive RP places so it will suit well for OCRP2's passive rp needs.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: smt on August 08, 2012, 07:57:06 AM
Voted for v33x; mmmmmmmmmmmmm

It's a nice map, lots of places to do stuff and it's fun to play on, yes yes
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Nicknero on August 08, 2012, 07:58:14 AM
I voted for option two.
I personally get sick of Evocity_v2d, but it's the best thing we can do to gain a better playerbase.
From the past, we know more players used to play OCRP on this map, and specially if this is a new gamemode basically, it's better to start of on this map to gain players. Then switch to 33x once we have a good amount of players.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: crazily farting teacher on August 08, 2012, 08:19:15 AM
2

Warning issued for 1 word posting ~ Crap-Head
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
I really think everybody should think good about this before they vote. Voting for option 3 can mean that nobody will know about OCRP2, and just refuse to join the server, because we are running such a big map. If we start out on v2d, then we WILL get more players, we all know that, and then we can do the move to v33x, where we can bring a good amount of players.

Consider this before voting.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: smt on August 08, 2012, 08:31:45 AM
I really think everybody should think good about this before they vote. Voting for option 3 can mean that nobody will know about OCRP2, and just refuse to join the server, because we are running such a big map. If we start out on v2d, then we WILL get more players, we all know that, and then we can do the move to v33x, where we can bring a good amount of players.

Consider this before voting.

What do you mean? Also why make this if you have a strong opinion already~
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: rBST Cow on August 08, 2012, 08:35:34 AM
2 Because I would like to see what OCRP2 would be like on different maps. It's not like we would be on v2 for a long time (less than a month). Then again, if we instantly went to v33x it would be more of a big bang for OCRP2.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on August 08, 2012, 08:37:37 AM
I'm voting for option 2, not because it'll "attract more people" going on v2d first, but so we don't have issues with running into RSO a lot more or any other issues when moving to v33x due to it being a bigger map until Garry's Mod 13 is released.

EDIT: Changed vote to Option 3, to switch to v33x. I agree that it'll upset the player base if new players join while it is on v2d then it switches to v33x in September. Also, v33x is by far a better EvoCity map and this time we won't have two different OCRP servers unlike last time where new players were joining the first server which was emptied whilst everyone else joined the semi-serious server which was actually better. We will just have one server this time and should work out a lot better.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 08:46:05 AM
I really think everybody should think good about this before they vote. Voting for option 3 can mean that nobody will know about OCRP2, and just refuse to join the server, because we are running such a big map. If we start out on v2d, then we WILL get more players, we all know that, and then we can do the move to v33x, where we can bring a good amount of players.

Consider this before voting.

What do you mean? Also why make this if you have a strong opinion already~

We are obviously hoping OCRP2 will attract a lot of new people to our OCRP playerbase, and it has always seemed easier to attract people when running v2d. So basically thats why i strongly support option 2. It will allow us to surely gain people, which we will then drag to v33x, and they will continue to play if they like OCRP2. v33x has trouble getting players if there are nobody on, and right now we only have the current playerbase from ocrp1.5 to drag over to v33x.

Also vote is to see what the community will want, im just asking people to not think "ohh i've wanted v33x for so long, now i just vote for that and then i can enjoy it for a week before i go inactive!!", and think more about how we gain the most players to play with.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Martinerrr on August 08, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
I'm not going to create an entire discussion (because i'm good at it), but I voted for three.

I'm giving my reason to option two voters here: We are changing to V33X anyways, so making a V2D playerbase won't be as incredibly effective.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: smt on August 08, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
Exactly, making a v2d playerbase then switching to v33x will probably lose more players than starting off on v33x, in the long run...
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Jeff2307 on August 08, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
Voted for release with V33x, because the first impression needs to be good.

If players join and they see V2d with not so much PassiveRP, they will think nothing has changed and they probably won't join when the map changes either.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: swag master spiderman on August 08, 2012, 09:28:59 AM
I'm voting 2D because it'll probably get a bigger playerbase and it isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: tics on August 08, 2012, 09:33:03 AM
I'm not going to vote, because last I checked, I think Statua is continuing work on Rockford. I'm not sure if he would want the map used in OCRP2, and I don't know if you would, but it's worth considering and speaking to Statua about.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
Voted for release with V33x, because the first impression needs to be good.

If players join and they see V2d with not so much PassiveRP, they will think nothing has changed and they probably won't join when the map changes either.

Speaking from what happened last time we went to v33x to try and save the playerbase, we didn't get any new players. Which is what we need, new players to get up the amount of people we have.

Oh well, if v33x wins and goes completely shit, theres nothing stopping us from switching back. Time will tell what happens, i guess.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Nadav on August 08, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
2

Forum ban issued. I already warned one guy for just posting the number of what he voted, why did you do the same thing? ~ Crap-Head
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: D3AD_S1L3NT on August 08, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
Voted for release with V33x, because the first impression needs to be good.

If players join and they see V2d with not so much PassiveRP, they will think nothing has changed and they probably won't join when the map changes either.

Speaking from what happened last time we went to v33x to try and save the playerbase, we didn't get any new players. Which is what we need, new players to get up the amount of people we have.

Oh well, if v33x wins and goes completely shit, theres nothing stopping us from switching back. Time will tell what happens, i guess.

nono... no.... we didnt get any new players because there was like 5 ocrps... maybe with only one ocrp thats on a map that some people enjoy like v33x will get new players. its not always the map that gets us new players, half the time nobody even knows what ocrp is.

i make no sense but youll get what im saying.

~silent
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Teitoku Ippan on August 08, 2012, 12:04:09 PM
Well, I changed my vote to Option 3 and the reason is edited into my previous post.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Anzu on August 08, 2012, 12:30:19 PM
Voted for v33x because there is nothing v2d has that is better.

Rather start with v33x playerbase and keep it than start with v2d, change to v33x and have everyone mad because their tiny house on v2d to grow weed on is fine.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Nicknero on August 08, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
People who vote for 33x do actually have a good point.
Besides, perhaps the fact we go from OCRP1.5 to OCRP2 is a reason for people to join, regardless of the different map.
If we start with V2d and switch to 33x later, we have a bigger chance to lose players.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on August 08, 2012, 05:00:39 PM
Voted to release with v33x. I see v33x as a more serious RP map, and if a player is serious about joining they will have no problem going to download the map. Basically everyone has V2d, and that includes the RP'ers that grow and raid, nothing else. V33x will attract more serious rp'ers in my opinion.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Wafflepwn_syrup on August 08, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
I feel like the Dev's are trying to force us into sticking with V2D? Anyone else feel like this?
Option 3 where releasing with OCRP 2 So hopefully it will push people over to join V33x
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 08, 2012, 06:26:01 PM
I feel like the Dev's are trying to force us into sticking with V2D? Anyone else feel like this?
Option 3 where releasing with OCRP 2 So hopefully it will push people over to join V33x

Maybe you should wake up, and see that any "dev" has said that to go with either option 2 or 3. Which option 2 is start with v2d, then go to v33x when gmod is more stable, and option 3 is go to v33x directly.

Don't get me wrong, i LOVE v33x, i would love to play that, i just afraid of an empty server after a few weeks, which i know for a fact will not happen on v2d, as that is sure as hell proven a few times already.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Wafflepwn_syrup on August 08, 2012, 06:40:39 PM
Maybe you should wake up, and see that any "dev" has said that to go with either option 2 or 3. Which option 2 is start with v2d, then go to v33x when gmod is more stable, and option 3 is go to v33x directly.

Don't get me wrong, i LOVE v33x, i would love to play that, i just afraid of an empty server after a few weeks, which i know for a fact will not happen on v2d, as that is sure as hell proven a few times already.

ah my bad sorry, But I think personally we should start off with V33x The only slight problem with doing so is, The Map Is slightly to big for the server size, But more people enjoy it, and it gives use more room for Passive RP (Which I try to do for the most part,) its really hard to do so on V2D because the map lacks size / building you can turn into stores. Which also gives the lunatics who grow all day for cars to drive around = gold member donations to get more cars to drive around.

(fixed your post ~ Crap-Head)
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: ligglo on August 08, 2012, 09:22:48 PM
RP_EvoCity_V33X.
I hope...
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on August 09, 2012, 12:04:52 AM
Keep in mind the gamemode will support 50 players.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Martinerrr on August 09, 2012, 12:19:13 AM
Keep in mind the gamemode will support 50 players.
This was the only reasonable argument to not go to V33X

Option three it is, Abbott already explained why, why build a V2D playerbase?
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on August 09, 2012, 01:40:46 AM
I really think everybody should think good about this before they vote. Voting for option 3 can mean that nobody will know about OCRP2, and just refuse to join the server, because we are running such a big map. If we start out on v2d, then we WILL get more players, we all know that, and then we can do the move to v33x, where we can bring a good amount of players.

Consider this before voting.

What do you mean? Also why make this if you have a strong opinion already~
cause it's up to the community in the end.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: ??. McBullet on August 09, 2012, 03:48:27 AM
Seriously, v2d is 5 years old now. Option 3 all the way. If you start out with a fresh, new map, the players you attract will stick, for sure. If OCRP2's going to be as good as you say, it needs a map that will compliment a fresh, new gamemode. Personally I'd look at OCRP2 and call it "same old, same old" if it was released on a map that hasn't gained the best reputation on OCRP1.

Option 2 repeats the failures of the previous attempt to switch to v33x. People will get used to v2d once more with OCRP2 and when you suddenly switch up to v33x on the 24th, the playerbase is likely to plummet as it did in the past. I fear that, if we release it with v2d and try to switch up to v33x, we will only be setting up v33x to fail once more, resulting in being chained down to the damm bitch of a 5-year old map.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on August 09, 2012, 04:06:10 AM
Seriously, v2d is 5 years old now. Option 3 all the way. If you start out with a fresh, new map, the players you attract will stick, for sure. If OCRP2's going to be as good as you say, it needs a map that will compliment a fresh, new gamemode. Personally I'd look at OCRP2 and call it "same old, same old" if it was released on a map that hasn't gained the best reputation on OCRP1.

Option 2 repeats the failures of the previous attempt to switch to v33x. People will get used to v2d once more with OCRP2 and when you suddenly switch up to v33x on the 24th, the playerbase is likely to plummet as it did in the past. I fear that, if we release it with v2d and try to switch up to v33x, we will only be setting up v33x to fail once more, resulting in being chained down to the damm bitch of a 5-year old map.

I agree, if we start with v2d, we will NEVER get rid of it. So, I vote Option 3.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: DrunkGarry on August 09, 2012, 05:18:18 AM
I also vote for option 3, it is much better and bigger and more fun!
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Wafflepwn_syrup on August 09, 2012, 05:38:33 AM
Keep in mind the gamemode will support 50 players.
oh that settles it then we will be forced to go to V33x V2D is waaaay to small for a player base of 40-50 players active.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on August 09, 2012, 09:04:09 AM
Keep in mind the gamemode will support 50 players.
oh that settles it then we will be forced to go to V33x V2D is waaaay to small for a player base of 40-50 players active.
I agree. 50 players(I'm sure the server will get full after release) just sitting around in the city would be really chaotic. V33X is a perfect sized map for 50 players.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Ben on August 09, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
Number 3.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Officer Jackal on August 09, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
I agree with vote number 2. This will give people time to prepare for a map change, and download the necessary map. Also, as v2d continues to get older and older, people may lose interest in it. So, it would be a good choice to start off on V2d, a place where people can get used to the game mode and such, then switch to v33x, which would be much more suitable for the amount of players and game mode.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Statua on August 09, 2012, 03:36:14 PM
Option three. Why? Cause of this:

-Hype about OCRP2 gets the entire community wanting to play when it releases so they get v33x ready.
-Server becomes full on day one
-As the day goes on and people leave for bead or lunch or whatever, new playters browsing their server list will see the mass amount of players and go "hey lets try this"
-Server continually stays full and attracts players
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: FanaticWarren on August 09, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
Option Number three in the case of 50 players, V2D is Way to small.

After reading some posts, Im switching to option Two. Release 33x when the big update comes out.

Keep server full on V2D until the big update come, switch to 33x and it wont lag, Profit?
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: D3AD_S1L3NT on August 09, 2012, 04:55:49 PM
Option Number three in the case of 50 players, V2D is Way to small.

After reading some posts, Im switching to option Two. Release 33x when the big update comes out.

Keep server full on V2D until the big update come, switch to 33x and it wont lag, Profit?

Nah. Thats the point. It wont be full on v2d. Personally im sick of v2d which is why i voted 3.

~silent
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Psycho29388 on August 09, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
I voted for 2.

I would like to Experience OCRP2 on both maps.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: xmathewx75 on August 10, 2012, 12:45:47 AM
Voting 3 - Some way or anthor. If we choose V2D now and got v33x later, we will still have new players later on not knowing how to play.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: A Dark Tree on August 10, 2012, 05:56:45 PM
I vote for 3!  I agree completely with mathew.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: -=ARC=- Mattmax059 on August 10, 2012, 06:59:54 PM
1 because when i try to use a server with V33x it says something i forgot but i cant play it cause of some error...
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: xmathewx75 on August 10, 2012, 08:31:45 PM
1 because when i try to use a server with V33x it says something i forgot but i cant play it cause of some error...

Ever thought about asking for help about the error?
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: -=ARC=- Mattmax059 on August 10, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
1 because when i try to use a server with V33x it says something i forgot but i cant play it cause of some error...

Ever thought about asking for help about the error?

I have. (not on here) But nobody fucking cares
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on August 10, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
1 because when i try to use a server with V33x it says something i forgot but i cant play it cause of some error...

Ever thought about asking for help about the error?

I have. (not on here) But nobody fucking cares
Not sure if this is needed for v33x, but add +r_hunkalloclightmaps 0 to GMod's command line.

Right click GMod in Steam > Properties > Set Launch Options > Enter +r_hunkalloclightmaps 0

If not, make a help thread in the Support section with the error and someone will be sure to help you out.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: smt on August 10, 2012, 10:26:25 PM
Pretty sure that was fixed AGES ago for v33x...
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Christopher Jay on August 10, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
I don't have that hunkalloc whatever it is and I can run the map fine.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 11, 2012, 05:01:54 AM
To clear the +r_hunkalloclightmaps discussion, its fixed by default in GMod. You should be able to remove it, and run v2d all fine.

Also for your little issue, post the error on here, im sure theres someone who can solve your problem. Its worth a try. It's not like you're the only one in the world to have whatever issue you have.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on August 11, 2012, 07:23:48 AM
V33x it is.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Anzu on August 11, 2012, 08:08:23 AM
Today is a good day

v33x was victorious

now lets hope people will just move to v33x instead of complaining and be too lazy to DL the map
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: wakeboarderCWB on August 11, 2012, 08:38:09 AM
As long as people are aware of the map change there should be no problem. There's plenty of time to download the map, it's not like it's a huge project.

Glad to see v33x won! Can't wait to play OCRP2 on a great map!
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Statua on August 11, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
Can someone post a news thread stating v33x will be used and a download link for it please? Thanx.
Title: Re: Orange Cosmos RP 2 Map Poll
Post by: Crap-Head on August 11, 2012, 01:47:28 PM
Can someone post a news thread stating v33x will be used and a download link for it please? Thanx.

Sure.

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