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Title: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pielolz on August 17, 2011, 10:58:00 PM
I want to see your input on this major source of debate, vote and tell us why you think so.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: YankeeSamurai on August 17, 2011, 11:15:38 PM
       ...To reduce minges, all we need to do is switch back to City 8, or a similarly uncommon map. You may be asking, "Then why the hell haven't we done that yet?!" Well, the answer is playerbase. RoflWaffle greatly values playerbase, and I believe he doesn't want to part with City 18 because of the amount of users C18 attracts. This is somewhat understandable, because more players naturally equals more potential donators. From what I've heard, donations contribute immensely to server maitainance costs and such. However, a large proportion- possibly even the majority- of new users who visit the C18 server are either trolls or utterly new to serious roleplay gamemodes. There comes a time when one wonders which takes the higher priority: money or roleplay.

       You might say, "With no money, there's no roleplay," and you would, in fact, be right. But the thing is, there are ways to increase the inflow of cash. Rofl's already added adverts to the forums, which could potentially make donations a non-issue. Maybe it already is. But if you're still hung up on donations, there are other ways to increase their frequency. It's as simple as thinking up some new donator benefits; making donating seem more worthwhile. A few new VIP/Gold rewards will bring an influx of donations to the community. With the combination of adverts and new donator benefits, attracting donations via map selection would cease to become an issue, and again, possibly already has.

       With the playerbase issue eliminated, there is no reason to stay on City 18. City 18 is bland, but the primary problem with the map is the level of undesirable players it attracts. The standard of roleplay on City 8 was superb, at least compared to the current standard on C18. I propose the city server switch back to C8. The playerbase will decrease, true, but the fact is that City 18 attracts far too many trolls, minges, and immature kids. Staying on C18 simply is not worth it. On City 8, we will get fewer players, but the roleplayers we do get will be of far better quality. Quality over quantity.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Phalanx on August 17, 2011, 11:16:29 PM
I think we should stay on C18 until C32. I'm pretty sure c32 is gonna be better because statua is a pretty damn good map maker. C18 is overused.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Darkshifter98 on August 17, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
Personally, I don't care as long as its not C18. Maybe just go on city 8 or something until city 32 is finished.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: YankeeSamurai on August 17, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
I think we should stay on C18 until C32. I'm pretty sure c32 is gonna be better because statua is a pretty damn good map maker. C18 is overused.

Uhh, if you read Statua's thread you would remember that making a new city map will take four to six months. That's a lot of time, especially of you allow for unforseen delays. Staying on C18 "until C32" is out of the question.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: The Doctor, RIP Juggernaut on August 18, 2011, 12:44:39 AM
Personally I hate the nexus in C8 its almost impossible to train recruits in breaching/teach my APEX shit.
I really would like to see it back but I would also like to see C45 back.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: LeninRoxSox on August 18, 2011, 12:50:36 AM
       ...To reduce minges, all we need to do is switch back to City 8, or a similarly uncommon map. You may be asking, "Then why the hell haven't we done that yet?!" Well, the answer is playerbase. RoflWaffle greatly values playerbase, and I believe he doesn't want to part with City 18 because of the amount of users C18 attracts. This is somewhat understandable, because more players naturally equals more potential donators. From what I've heard, donations contribute immensely to server maitainance costs and such. However, a large proportion- possibly even the majority- of new users who visit the C18 server are either trolls or utterly new to serious roleplay gamemodes. There comes a time when one wonders which takes the higher priority: money or roleplay.

       You might say, "With no money, there's no roleplay," and you would, in fact, be right. But the thing is, there are ways to increase the inflow of cash. Rofl's already added adverts to the forums, which could potentially make donations a non-issue. Maybe it already is. But if you're still hung up on donations, there are other ways to increase their frequency. It's as simple as thinking up some new donator benefits; making donating seem more worthwhile. A few new VIP/Gold rewards will bring an influx of donations to the community. With the combination of adverts and new donator benefits, attracting donations via map selection would cease to become an issue, and again, possibly already has.

       With the playerbase issue eliminated, there is no reason to stay on City 18. City 18 is bland, but the primary problem with the map is the level of undesirable players it attracts. The standard of roleplay on City 8 was superb, at least compared to the current standard on C18. I propose the city server switch back to C8. The playerbase will decrease, true, but the fact is that City 18 attracts far too many trolls, minges, and immature kids. Staying on C18 simply is not worth it. On City 8, we will get fewer players, but the roleplayers we do get will be of far better quality. Quality over quantity.
My thoughts almost exactly
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Statua on August 18, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
I'd like to see the original C45. The sunny one.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: lemonshit on August 18, 2011, 01:24:26 AM
City11 for the reason being that it's small. It makes it look like there's a lot of people even if there's only 15 people on. And with 30+ people, it'll be like New York City.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Khub on August 18, 2011, 01:32:24 AM
I would like to stay on city 18 until the Statua's map is finished. I understand that map development takes a long time, but on city 18 there is at least a chance to roleplay with some people, other maps = 0 people playing in my timezone.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Calstifer on August 18, 2011, 04:11:12 AM
Any map but C18 till '32.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Nicknero on August 18, 2011, 07:35:06 AM
C45 was a very good map. The one and only issue with this is the huge amount of crashes due to Kaz being a turbo derp and going far over the ent limit.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Adam S on August 18, 2011, 07:45:49 AM
Remember guys Quantity > Quality

Meaning even if statua finishes his map in his "Set timeframe" roflwaffle would reject it with that reason.  The same reason being why we are back on shitty18.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Krisrules on August 18, 2011, 09:09:16 AM
City 8 imo
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pielolz on August 18, 2011, 10:43:51 AM
City11 for the reason being that it's small. It makes it look like there's a lot of people even if there's only 15 people on. And with 30+ people, it'll be like New York City.

Exactly, and the Nexus is uber boss.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on August 18, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
City 11 crashes on startup, I believe from a previous test.


Original C45 is not good at all. If you ever explored the map in SP, it has all these stupid decals like "the orange box...did you see what we did here?" And on various walls, especially in the train station, there are stupid custom decals that say OOC things. Plus, it encourages lolwebuling because of the secret lolwebulplace that will not be revealed by me.

The C45 edit crashes too often.

The C8 nexus is shit and people can get in piss easy.

I am neutral.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Martinerrr on August 18, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
No offense on this, but are you a high rank on HL2RP?
You're not an administrator, or something near permission of authorizing something as big as this, no one has confirmed yet another map change.
Why are you trying to speak for CG in a map change.

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What map should WE go to?
I want to see your input on this major source of debate, vote and tell US why you think so.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Statua on August 18, 2011, 12:05:36 PM
Members can initiate polls if they want. Whether it makes a change or not is up to administration.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Martinerrr on August 19, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Members can initiate polls if they want. Whether it makes a change or not is up to administration.
If it's like a question, what map do you like? Yes, ofcourse but..
This doesn't look like a 'member-poll'.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pielolz on August 19, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Members can initiate polls if they want. Whether it makes a change or not is up to administration.
If it's like a question, what map do you like? Yes, ofcourse but..
This doesn't look like a 'member-poll'.

This isn't a communist community, the administration LISTENS to the players
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Martinerrr on August 19, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
Members can initiate polls if they want. Whether it makes a change or not is up to administration.
If it's like a question, what map do you like? Yes, ofcourse but..
This doesn't look like a 'member-poll'.

This isn't a communist community, the administration LISTENS to the players
Look at my signature.
You'll see my point.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pirate Robot on August 19, 2011, 07:18:59 PM
NO,NO,NO.

The Owner has final word.

I vote City 18 because it brings the numbers.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Bromine on August 20, 2011, 12:27:06 AM
NO,NO,NO.

The Owner has final word.

I vote City 18 because it brings the numbers.
You dumbass!
Really, in all honesty, look, nobody wants C18! All it is is MPF-RP and civillian minge time.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Statua on August 20, 2011, 06:42:01 AM
Numbers are not what brings good rp. It's good players that do. Only good players will go out of their way to find the map and download it. Some poor players too but they usually get taught. C18 is the Downtown of hl2rp.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pielolz on August 20, 2011, 01:40:51 PM
Numbers are not what brings good rp. It's good players that do. Only good players will go out of their way to find the map and download it. Some poor players too but they usually get taught. C18 is the Downtown of hl2rp.

I've seen people using emotes in chat, OOC things IC, prop pushing CPs of the tower, minge running, minge running into the nexus, the "how do i be a cop" line, I even saw a guy go "/votecop" And some one, asked me, ICly, "/votecop isnt working and f4 doesnt work"

I can barely handle being on C18 anymore, the shere amount of minges is just shocking.
Ok so yesterday I burned threw 200 PISTOL ROUNDS ON MINGES. Nick was nice neough to give me 2800, then Krystal killed me for using a gun OOCly so I lost my boatload of ammo.. I burned through 800 rounds before I died. ALL of them on minges.. That.. Is too much..
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: ?????´???¾???°.?µ???µ on August 20, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
As long as you don't go on city 8, I'm fine.

City 8
City 18



I will stick to this server and this will be my signiture lol
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pirate Robot on August 20, 2011, 01:58:39 PM
You guy's just don't like new RP'ers.
Elitist.

IT has and will bring so many more good RP'ers
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Adam S on August 20, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
I really want to go back to City8 or city45.

City18 is too fucky mingy and attracts the dumbest people of a generation.  Now, in serious RP you would choose Quality, not quantity.  The Quantity of the place could cause the term "Serious" to break and create minge fests. 

In this case City18 has brought too many people being dumb "Where can i join resistance" tends to be a key word from every citizen.

Also Pirate, whens the last time you had your IQ checked?
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Pielolz on August 21, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
The minge fest is unbelievable.. Four fucking riots in one day.. TOO MUCH. PLEASE C11, no one has heard of C11, so therefor only the regulars will be there, same with C45.

SOMTHING else aside from C18
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on August 21, 2011, 01:29:45 PM
The minge fest is unbelievable.. Four fucking riots in one day.. TOO MUCH. PLEASE C11, no one has heard of C11, so therefor only the regulars will be there, same with C45.

SOMTHING else aside from C18

Who is causing all these riots? Every see a citizen in HL2 going "kill the cumbeanz!" and waving a gun? No, you don't. Riots don't happen.

EDIT: C11 crashes on startup btw.
Title: Re: What map should we goto?
Post by: Adam S on August 21, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
The minge fest is unbelievable.. Four fucking riots in one day.. TOO MUCH. PLEASE C11, no one has heard of C11, so therefor only the regulars will be there, same with C45.

SOMTHING else aside from C18

Who is causing all these riots? Every see a citizen in HL2 going "kill the cumbeanz!" and waving a gun? No, you don't. Riots don't happen.

EDIT: C11 crashes on startup btw.
If thats the case bluntly ban them.  City11 shouldnt crash on start unless OA is being the issue.

Ran 2 copies of City11 in Multiplayer, OA is shit.
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