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Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Archive => HL2RP Development[ARCHIVE] => Denied PK Appeals => Topic started by: CoolChris2000 on June 05, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
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Steam Name: Coolchris2000
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:45980592
Character Name: Sarah Parry
Admin who issued PK: Kronic
Reason for Un-PK: The app was just accepted and I do not see how a person could even think about killing a child (Especialy when they were very close friends and she tried to protect her)
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This just sounds like something IC happened and you dislike it, that's not a reason to get a character back. You should be lucky to live a week with a child...
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1. You've had the character long before it was accepted and there's evidence of this on your application.
2. My character, Kelly Striker, had IC motive to kill you. Your character has been raped, shot, bitten, and attacked by other means multiple times, so my character was putting your out of her misery.
Kelly Striker says "This world.. It's not meant for children.."
3. My character is dealing with emotional problems because of this, thus creating even more RP. If you void the legitimate RP, you're also destroying the effects of it. Kronic talked to you about this already and told you it was a legitimate kill with an "actually perfect reason for the killing".
You can't just void things because you like a character. That's why you make about three or four to use equally. That way if one gets PK'd you can easily rotate with out being too angry.
This just sounds like something IC happened and you dislike it, that's not a reason to get a character back. You should be lucky to live a week with a child...
After you got knocked out:
** Kelly Striker quickly slams the stock into the girls' head, hoping to kill her.
** Sarah Parry seems dead.
** Kelly Striker drops the body off the cliff, crying.
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Kai, I will be honest with you right now. You always exclude People from RP and you love to destroy it for your own personal gain. You are a friend of mine, but this is going to far. Sure IC is IC, but you are ruiningRP. You could have just let her NLR or something. A PK was not nessacary at all, the RP Sarah could have created for OTA and refugees was just ruined by you PKing her. I am in my IPhone ATM so I can't type much.
Anyways. If the RP was not in depth, descriptive, didn't take a long time, just was a random kill out of no where, I think this appeal should be accepted.
E; if it was what I said above, the appeal should be denied.
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@Cow, I completely agree with you. Although I do not have personal problems with Kai, he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes. I suggested NLR several times for the reason of drawing out RP, yet it was shot down.
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I gained nothing from it ICly and OOCly, and ICly I lost. It's just I wasn't trying to ruin RP. My character has been effected by it ICly and I've been RPing it properly. I didn't randomly think "Heh, you know what? I should get him PK'd". My character had a short talk with another character about how children can't handle the situation. Then my character found Sarah in a corner. Then ICly Kelly decided that Sarah's been through too much, and that putting her out of her misery was the right thing to do. The OTA had just patrolled and I'd known that Sarah had been raped and shot and other things. And Sarah's part in it may not have been long to Chris, but to Kelly, it's an idea and an action that's been starting a lot of RP. My character is emotionally/mentally scarred due to it. Having Sarah resurrect after my character's been around crying and having bad memories in front of others just seems like it's voiding too much.
Chris has been talking to me (Spamming me through SF with "That was the ONLY char I had Rp on and the app was JUST accepted") and I'm okay with him being unPK'd, it's just I don't want it to be NLR (I find NLR a waste of time unless it's just a unit getting killed against rebels), but proper painRP. My character send the stock of her MP7 into Sarah's face two times, and also threw her down a large cliff, meaning a LOT of PainRP.
Chris also depended on this character too much, which I wasn't aware of, but it's necessary to learn your character WILL die, whether it's a character you've had for a day or one you've had for two years. I wouldn't be too bend out of shape if Kelly or Carmelio or Trent or 922 was PK'd with proper RP and a good reason.
Short Story:
Yes, it was in depth, maybe not to Chris, but it's something that's been waiting to happen and still is happening.
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I gained nothing from it ICly and OOCly, and ICly I lost. It's just I wasn't trying to ruin RP. My character has been effected by it ICly and I've been RPing it properly. I didn't randomly think "Heh, you know what? I should get him PK'd". My character had a short talk with another character about how children can't handle the situation. Then my character found Sarah in a corner. Then ICly Kelly decided that Sarah's been through too much, and that putting her out of her misery was the right thing to do. The OTA had just patrolled and I'd known that Sarah had been raped and shot and other things. And Sarah's part in it may not have been long to Chris, but to Kelly, it's an idea and an action that's been starting a lot of RP. My character is emotionally/mentally scarred due to it. Having Sarah resurrect after my character's been around crying and having bad memories in front of others just seems like it's voiding too much.
Chris has been talking to me (Spamming me through SF with "That was the ONLY char I had Rp on and the app was JUST accepted") and I'm okay with him being unPK'd, it's just I don't want it to be NLR (I find NLR a waste of time unless it's just a unit getting killed against rebels), but proper painRP. My character send the stock of her MP7 into Sarah's face two times, and also threw her down a large cliff, meaning a LOT of PainRP.
Chris also depended on this character too much, which I wasn't aware of, but it's necessary to learn your character WILL die, whether it's a character you've had for a day or one you've had for two years. I wouldn't be too bend out of shape if Kelly or Carmelio or Trent or 922 was PK'd with proper RP and a good reason.
Short Story:
Yes, it was in depth, maybe not to Chris, but it's something that's been waiting to happen and still is happening.
So you found her in a corner, and just decied to hit her in the head two times with the stock of your gun and throw her off a clif? Oh yea that is really long and detailed RP. You could have just gone with an NLR, Kai. There was no reason for the PK. Like I said, I have no problems with Kai and he is a friend, but this is just to much. In the long run Sarah could have created a lot of RP, but that was just destroyed. If all you did was hit her in the head two times with the stock of your gun, throw her off a cliff, then it should be an NLR. PK's should be BIG things, not just you found her in a corner and decided to kill her.
tl;dr I support this PK Appeal if all Kai did was hit her in the head two times with the stock of her gun and throw her off a cliff. That is not detailed RP in any sense, it seems more of just 10min RP and she is PK'ed.
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I gained nothing from it ICly and OOCly, and ICly I lost. It's just I wasn't trying to ruin RP. My character has been effected by it ICly and I've been RPing it properly. I didn't randomly think "Heh, you know what? I should get him PK'd". My character had a short talk with another character about how children can't handle the situation. Then my character found Sarah in a corner. Then ICly Kelly decided that Sarah's been through too much, and that putting her out of her misery was the right thing to do. The OTA had just patrolled and I'd known that Sarah had been raped and shot and other things. And Sarah's part in it may not have been long to Chris, but to Kelly, it's an idea and an action that's been starting a lot of RP. My character is emotionally/mentally scarred due to it. Having Sarah resurrect after my character's been around crying and having bad memories in front of others just seems like it's voiding too much.
Chris has been talking to me (Spamming me through SF with "That was the ONLY char I had Rp on and the app was JUST accepted") and I'm okay with him being unPK'd, it's just I don't want it to be NLR (I find NLR a waste of time unless it's just a unit getting killed against rebels), but proper painRP. My character send the stock of her MP7 into Sarah's face two times, and also threw her down a large cliff, meaning a LOT of PainRP.
Chris also depended on this character too much, which I wasn't aware of, but it's necessary to learn your character WILL die, whether it's a character you've had for a day or one you've had for two years. I wouldn't be too bend out of shape if Kelly or Carmelio or Trent or 922 was PK'd with proper RP and a good reason.
Short Story:
Yes, it was in depth, maybe not to Chris, but it's something that's been waiting to happen and still is happening.
So you found her in a corner, and just decied to hit her in the head two times with the stock of your gun and throw her off a clif? Oh yea that is really long and detailed RP. You could have just gone with an NLR, Kai. There was no reason for the PK. Like I said, I have no problems with Kai and he is a friend, but this is just to much. In the long run Sarah could have created a lot of RP, but that was just destroyed. If all you did was hit her in the head two times with the stock of your gun, throw her off a cliff, then it should be an NLR. PK's should be BIG things, not just you found her in a corner and decided to kill her.
tl;dr I support this PK Appeal if all Kai did was hit her in the head two times with the stock of her gun and throw her off a cliff. That is not detailed RP in any sense, it seems more of just 10min RP and she is PK'ed.
It wasn't just "Hey there ya' are!" then **Smack!** it was during a OTA patrol and I was trying to protect her. Long before that I had said that she's not suited for this kind of life. It was long. Me killing her wasn't the whole RP. I was planning on writing a journal to explain, but I'd have to find a journal ICly because the one I had is ICly full. It wasn't a 10 minute RP. It was at least a 2 or 3 day RP.
Also, I may add, that I explained everything to Kronic and he said it DID have a reason and that he approved of it.
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And this. People. Is why PKs should be talked about between the two people who are involved. Kai. There was no reason to kill Chris's character. I believe you probably just did it for your own amusement. Should I just get on Zak, shoot you in the head with my sniper and say "Oh yeah, its fine, she was emotionally stressed out, it really was the right thing to do". No...
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You shouldn't need some sort of "special reason" to PK, that's counter productive. Characters here aren't even as in depth or emotionally-attached as they are in *other servers* (no offence, but it's honestly true). I Pk'd someones character in TnB's terminator RP because he was annoying my character with dumb and risky behavior (ie ramboing terminators), we didn't discuss it, I got the auths to issue a PK, tracked him down and killed him with a lovely .45 shot to the brain. Unless the RP was dumb or the reason was "i hate him ooc!! then PKs should stick, don't play a character you don't want to die.
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You shouldn't need some sort of "special reason" to PK, that's counter productive. Characters here aren't even as in depth or emotionally-attached as they are in *other servers* (no offence, but it's honestly true). I Pk'd someones character in TnB's terminator RP because he was annoying my character with dumb and risky behavior (ie ramboing terminators), we didn't discuss it, I got the auths to issue a PK, tracked him down and killed him with a lovely .45 shot to the brain. Unless the RP was dumb or the reason was "i hate him ooc!! then PKs should stick, don't play a character you don't want to die.
So your saying that you have created a very in depth character, then all the sudden someone says "well ya know my character has been going to thru a hard time and this person is in misery (even though they dont want to die) so i should PK someone for my own amusment and not let them NLR."
Joke, thanks for pointing that out. There was no reason to PK chris's character, a NLR would have been 10x better and more logical.
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You shouldn't need some sort of "special reason" to PK, that's counter productive. Characters here aren't even as in depth or emotionally-attached as they are in *other servers* (no offence, but it's honestly true). I Pk'd someones character in TnB's terminator RP because he was annoying my character with dumb and risky behavior (ie ramboing terminators), we didn't discuss it, I got the auths to issue a PK, tracked him down and killed him with a lovely .45 shot to the brain. Unless the RP was dumb or the reason was "i hate him ooc!! then PKs should stick, don't play a character you don't want to die.
So your saying that you have created a very in depth character, then all the sudden someone says "well ya know my character has been going to thru a hard time and this person is in misery (even though they dont want to die) so i should PK someone for my own amusment and not let them NLR."
That's exactly what I'm saying, don't play a character you don't want to die. Unless as you say it's "for your own amusement", that comes under dumb rp or a "bad" reason, but there shouldn't be a "specific" reason to get a PK.
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You shouldn't need some sort of "special reason" to PK, that's counter productive. Characters here aren't even as in depth or emotionally-attached as they are in *other servers* (no offence, but it's honestly true). I Pk'd someones character in TnB's terminator RP because he was annoying my character with dumb and risky behavior (ie ramboing terminators), we didn't discuss it, I got the auths to issue a PK, tracked him down and killed him with a lovely .45 shot to the brain. Unless the RP was dumb or the reason was "i hate him ooc!! then PKs should stick, don't play a character you don't want to die.
So your saying that you have created a very in depth character, then all the sudden someone says "well ya know my character has been going to thru a hard time and this person is in misery (even though they dont want to die) so i should PK someone for my own amusment and not let them NLR."
That's exactly what I'm saying, don't play a character you don't want to die. Unless as you say it's "for your own amusement", that comes under dumb rp or a "bad" reason, but there shouldn't be a "specific" reason to get a PK.
And I am getting the feeling Kai is doing this for his own amusment. I have seen him RP, and he will exclude people from the said RP and do anything that is in his favor, no one elses. A PK for Sarah Perry was over the top if you ask me, NLR would have been fine. Could an SA please look at this?
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It wasn't a 2 minute decision, it's one that's been streaming through my char's head.
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It wasn't a 2 minute decision, it's one that's been streaming through my char's head.
She got her app accepted last night. Read up on all the posts Kai, we have pointed out a lot of things.
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It wasn't a 2 minute decision, it's one that's been streaming through my char's head.
She got her app accepted last night. Read up on all the posts Kai, we have pointed out a lot of things.
The character's been in use long before the app.
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It wasn't a 2 minute decision, it's one that's been streaming through my char's head.
She got her app accepted last night. Read up on all the posts Kai, we have pointed out a lot of things.
The character's been in use long before the app.
And my best guess would be that it was all voided, unless I am wrong. Point is, a PK was over the top, an NLR would have been fitting. The reasons why are posted all other this thread.
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It was a developed character that had been used prior to the acceptance of the app, and it was a completely thought out plan. I didn't just randomly decide to end a character. It had RP purpose, and my character is still affected by this kill. NLR just seems hard to do because then you have people that don't know that she died, then if you come across the character again, it's hard to void everything. Also, the whole point of my character killing hers was to ICly remove the child from the situation, something that my character had been planning.
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It was a developed character that had been used prior to the acceptance of the app, and it was a completely thought out plan. I didn't just randomly decide to end a character. It had RP purpose, and my character is still affected by this kill. NLR just seems hard to do because then you have people that don't know that she died, then if you come across the character again, it's hard to void everything. Also, the whole point of my character killing hers was to ICly remove the child from the situation, something that my character had been planning.
Oh alright. My character hates woman and thinks they are inferior to men and don't belong in this world so I am going to get PK auths and kill you. No. If you ever come across her again ICly then just NLR it as if you killed another child or something of the like. Use your imagination, that is a large part of RP.
But explain to me why exactly you wanted to get PK auths on her, not let her NLR? It's so simple to just let her NLR instead of PK'ing her because you are trying to "put her out of her misery" (when she ICly and OOCly does not want to die). Kai, I know you can be a cool person, but dude, this is rediculas.
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can we stop with the dumb in this topic? thanks
anyways, I hope you all realize that EVERY kill through RP unless during an even is meant to be a PK, so anyone who has ever been told they can follow NLR is extremely lucky. for those of you saying that Kai is just trying to kill RP and exclude others, the nicest way I can say this is simply "stop being dumb." no, you should not kill people just for the reason "I felt like killing someone," that was not his reason. his reason was logical; therefore I issued the PK. sure, lets let a well known character get killed ICly and just say "nlr." makes many sense.
the fact anyone was even authorized to have a child character is already ridiculous in my eyes, you would just simply not survive. you were shot, you had a chunk of your neck bitten out, and were apparently raped multiple times. you were going to die soon either way, and that death would have been a PK.
I am not denying this just yet; however I'd like the argument to come to an end until I've made my decision.
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can we stop with the dumb in this topic? thanks
anyways, I hope you all realize that EVERY kill through RP unless during an even is meant to be a PK, so anyone who has ever been told they can follow NLR is extremely lucky. for those of you saying that Kai is just trying to kill RP and exclude others, the nicest way I can say this is simply "stop being dumb." no, you should not kill people just for the reason "I felt like killing someone," that was not his reason. his reason was logical; therefore I issued the PK. sure, lets let a well known character get killed ICly and just say "nlr." makes many sense.
the fact anyone was even authorized to have a child character is already ridiculous in my eyes, you would just simply not survive. you were shot, you had a chunk of your neck bitten out, and were apparently raped multiple times. you were going to die soon either way, and that death would have been a PK.
I am not denying this just yet; however I'd like the argument to come to an end until I've made my decision.
Kronic, Most people dont get PKed, they NLR. I don't see why Sarah cannot NLR. I even looked in the logs and the rp prolly took 5-10mins with minimal effort on Kais side (as in he was not very descriptive and the rp was very short). I am on my iPhone ATM so I can't type a lot, but look at it from my point of view, Jokes point of view, and Tylers. Sarah could create many rp oppurtunites for OTA and refugees (like I said), but no, she has to die with some 5-10min rp that wasn't very descriptive at all. Kai is a friend of mine, but I really think the PK is rediculas and it should just be an NLR.
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Well I have an idea that could suit me AND Kai because we both don't really like the use of NLR I was thinking that ICly there was a branch or a rock on the way down in the cliff, That I survived the stock to the Face and I hit the rock/branch and it caught me on it/ slowed down my fall and I survived but there would be a lot of painRp. And it would keep Kai wanting to have those effects for killing a child but Sarah could still be alive.. Like I want (And many other people) Then it could create the most Rp in my opinion. But it would come with some emotional consequenses for Sarah because Kelly tryed to kill her. She would now not trust ANYONE she didn't know Men and women alike. But people she knows she can trust like Josephine, Alex, Ali, Norman, Rebecca.. Ect. she can and WILL be near the 24/7 so no-one trys to murder her again.
Keep in mind this is just an idea! In my oppinion (and others) probably a good one!
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A child surviving a fall from a cliff because she was cushioned by rocks?
It's just kinda silly. I say deal with the PK. It's a game. Now, had it been OTA or a Unit or something else like that and you were just lolpk'd, then this argument would make more sense. But you should just suck it up and make a new character.
The way you've described your character, I think you get off on having kids bitten and raped.
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I never said cusioned by rocks -_- I said A rock/Branch could catch her and hang her by the sleeve, Jacket or she could land on it, it breaks and slows down her fall and the fall is less of an impact. READ. And plus a Pk would ruin Rp for me and a lot of other people and NLR would be better than a Pk but its not as good as my idea in my oppinion.
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I never said cusioned by rocks -_- I said A rock/Branch could catch her and hang her by the sleeve, Jacket or she could land on it, it breaks and slows down her fall and the fall is less of an impact. READ. And plus a Pk would ruin Rp for me and a lot of other people and NLR would be better than a Pk but its not as good as my idea in my oppinion.
Well, by that theory (If an admin accepts it), then you deserve no PK nor NLR, you would just be injured badly. Possibly a broken arm or a leg. Personally, I do believe you should not die from a fall like so.
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I'm going to go ahead and Deny this, why?
1. You were attacked/harmed multiple times, I even saved you once from a fatal wound, that character would not have survived in the outlands for long anyways.
2. The reason for your PK, and the RP involved, Kronic said was legit, so if you were knocked out and thrown off the cliff, you would have died, no question.
3. You cannot seem to give a good reason to be Un-PKd... The app was just accepted and I do not see how a person could even think about killing a child (Especialy when they were very close friends and she tried to protect her)
Just because your app was Just accepted, or just because you didn't want that character to be killed, or because you don't understand how someone would kill a child.. All of these are not good reasons.