I myself prefer Outlands greatly over city. Reason being, after almost 2 years of playing HL2RP, city RP is the same thing over and over again. Clean up that street. Fix that wall. Line up so I can cavity check you. There's not a whole lot of room for modulation in the city. In outlands, you have a much wider area of freedom to do what you want. You can make friends, start a business, go on adventures, build a scrapper tank that shoots rocks with pneumatics. Whatever you want. Its survival RP as well so there's always something to do like collect water, go hunting, gather fruits/vegetables, or upkeep the shelter. There's no sitting, waiting around for something to happen (unless you lack imagination) passive RPing in your home or sitting on a bench.
What would you rather play on, the city or the outlands, and why? Neither at the moment. City is too stale and has fallen into the same situation as many other communities who have just opened a server: no players, same story, nobody daring to do something different. Outlands, by my own experience, has been too exclusive to be involved myself in decent RP.
What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it?Apart from the fact it's always empty (so there's no one to roleplay with) there just isn't much to do
What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it? A server full of citizens and units and the plaza/UCH are totally empty, making finding others to RP with near impossible and really just ends up with me walking around aimlessly.
What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it?Almost everything about it at this point. The player base, the stale environment, people's lack of originality and lack of desire to be original and the map. I'm sick of city 45; I hate to say it and I know Ozjackal has put tons of effort and time into it but I just don't enjoy the map/environment anymore.
What do you want to do on city? have interested roleplay -- which is lacking on the city server at the moment
What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it? The disparity in effort put into citizen gameplay compared to the elaborate systems constantly maintained and updated for the CCA
What do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.Is City_45 too hardware reliant for your current system? (too laggy)No.What would you like to see more of on city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.What do you want to do on city?Something interesting for once.What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it?It's really, really, boring.What can be done to help you enjoy the city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.
>No matter what happens, no matter how old I get.>I'll never forget...>Fats Mcgee. And his Retard Three.
For instance:QuoteI myself prefer Outlands greatly over city. Reason being, after almost 2 years of playing HL2RP, city RP is the same thing over and over again. Clean up that street. Fix that wall. Line up so I can cavity check you. There's not a whole lot of room for modulation in the city. In outlands, you have a much wider area of freedom to do what you want. You can make friends, start a business, go on adventures, build a scrapper tank that shoots rocks with pneumatics. Whatever you want. Its survival RP as well so there's always something to do like collect water, go hunting, gather fruits/vegetables, or upkeep the shelter. There's no sitting, waiting around for something to happen (unless you lack imagination) passive RPing in your home or sitting on a bench.Okay, you say that Outlands is better because there's more freedom and action. Great, perfectly understandable. No argument here. But you also state that City is boring because it holds none of these aspects and that cleaning/getting oppressed all the time is boring. Well, to be entirely honest that is the WHOLE THEME OF CITY. Oppression and misery. Sure, you may get a flit of action here or there with some rebel groups like Third Eye or Red Union or whatever but there isn't much. However, I can't fault you for not stating constructiveness as it was indeed a preference thread.
Though no one would ever agree to it, a replacement of the canon in HL2RP with something more unique and specially crafted to avoid the issues that stem from the Half-Life 2 canon would be the ultimate solution.
Okay, you say that Outlands is better because there's more freedom and action. Great, perfectly understandable. No argument here. But you also state that City is boring because it holds none of these aspects and that cleaning/getting oppressed all the time is boring. Well, to be entirely honest that is the WHOLE THEME OF CITY. Oppression and misery.
What do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.
Quote from: Sexy Frog on February 02, 2013, 02:48:39 AMOkay, you say that Outlands is better because there's more freedom and action. Great, perfectly understandable. No argument here. But you also state that City is boring because it holds none of these aspects and that cleaning/getting oppressed all the time is boring. Well, to be entirely honest that is the WHOLE THEME OF CITY. Oppression and misery.Also, you seem to be fairly miffed about people failing to proactively contribute positive suggestions of their own. If you really want to hear forward-thinking suggestions, maybe next time you could post a thread asking to gather that particular type of suggestion, instead of using the rather roundabout means of an accusatory rant to get your feedback.It's easier and quicker to point out the flaws in something, as opposed to actively suggesting methods of improvement. If a particular sort of feedback is not specifically asked for, many people will just leave it up in the air. Don't be so quick to label it a sign of malicious intent or inferior personal character. Should people feel bad for failing to give feedback that wasn't asked for? No, perhaps they could use a simple nudge in the desired direction. Whatever the case may be, it's definitely not necessary to get angry and create an angrythread.php. You could've gotten the desired suggestions free of drama, simply by asking a few follow-up questions in a comment or even in a new thread if you wanted the visibility.
I want to make it perfectly clear that I am in no way attacking or singling anyone out as everyone is entitled to their opinions and whatever, I am just addressing the elephant in the room.
But what makes matter worse is that raged has even posted that new thread about Loyalist system suggestions and even offered a reward ICly for good suggestions just to give a little perk for helping out but not a single soul has commented on it other than Dallas.
Quote from: Sexy Frog on February 02, 2013, 02:48:39 AMFor instance:QuoteI myself prefer Outlands greatly over city. Reason being, after almost 2 years of playing HL2RP, city RP is the same thing over and over again. Clean up that street. Fix that wall. Line up so I can cavity check you. There's not a whole lot of room for modulation in the city. In outlands, you have a much wider area of freedom to do what you want. You can make friends, start a business, go on adventures, build a scrapper tank that shoots rocks with pneumatics. Whatever you want. Its survival RP as well so there's always something to do like collect water, go hunting, gather fruits/vegetables, or upkeep the shelter. There's no sitting, waiting around for something to happen (unless you lack imagination) passive RPing in your home or sitting on a bench.Okay, you say that Outlands is better because there's more freedom and action. Great, perfectly understandable. No argument here. But you also state that City is boring because it holds none of these aspects and that cleaning/getting oppressed all the time is boring. Well, to be entirely honest that is the WHOLE THEME OF CITY. Oppression and misery. Sure, you may get a flit of action here or there with some rebel groups like Third Eye or Red Union or whatever but there isn't much. However, I can't fault you for not stating constructiveness as it was indeed a preference thread.Right, so you have just indirectly admitted that the Half-Life 2 canon is absolutely terrible for a city-oriented roleplay server, because the essence of roleplay is freedom and the essence of oppression is the detraction of freedom. Do you know why people never suggest anything constructive to fix City? There isn't any way to fix City. All of the problems that exist within City are inherent byproducts of the shoddy Half-Life 2 canon that should have never been used for a city-oriented roleplay server to begin with. Though no one would ever agree to it, a replacement of the canon in HL2RP with something more unique and specially crafted to avoid the issues that stem from the Half-Life 2 canon would be the ultimate solution.
you say it's boring because you are probably one of those shitheads that sit on a bench and then when you look at them after them ranting about 'rp being le boring' and you look at their character and they just keep walkinglike seriously changing canon won't do shit except bring activity up for about a weekwow guys a week of circlejerking in a new canoN WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nooutlands isn't active because it has a unique canon (which it doesn't) and neither will city i swear this happens every time activity drops and maybe you should consider the fact that everyone wants to cyber on outlands and look at the difference between pre-outlands launch and post. crying about it won't do shit so maybe you shouldn'tQuoteWhat do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.whoever does this should just up and neck themselvesyeah bitch about not being active and then go fucking sit on a bench and cry about the lack of 'rp' just because there's no female characters on to cyber withall in all a change of canon will make me want to set myself on fire and good luck having people joining and understanding what's going on in the first place - which less playerbase = less activity = more bitching from faggots
QuoteWhat do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.Is City_45 too hardware reliant for your current system? (too laggy)No.What would you like to see more of on city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.What do you want to do on city?Something interesting for once.What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it?It's really, really, boring.What can be done to help you enjoy the city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.
Quote from: hogs on February 02, 2013, 08:35:44 AMyou say it's boring because you are probably one of those shitheads that sit on a bench and then when you look at them after them ranting about 'rp being le boring' and you look at their character and they just keep walkinglike seriously changing canon won't do shit except bring activity up for about a weekwow guys a week of circlejerking in a new canoN WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nooutlands isn't active because it has a unique canon (which it doesn't) and neither will city i swear this happens every time activity drops and maybe you should consider the fact that everyone wants to cyber on outlands and look at the difference between pre-outlands launch and post. crying about it won't do shit so maybe you shouldn'tQuoteWhat do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.whoever does this should just up and neck themselvesyeah bitch about not being active and then go fucking sit on a bench and cry about the lack of 'rp' just because there's no female characters on to cyber withall in all a change of canon will make me want to set myself on fire and good luck having people joining and understanding what's going on in the first place - which less playerbase = less activity = more bitching from faggotsThat was my post actually, if you would have read it more in depth, I said, Quote from: Sexy Frog on February 02, 2013, 02:48:39 AMQuoteWhat do you do for fun on city?Sit on a bench, literally.Is City_45 too hardware reliant for your current system? (too laggy)No.What would you like to see more of on city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.What do you want to do on city?Something interesting for once.What is about city that makes you not want to join or play it?It's really, really, boring.What can be done to help you enjoy the city?RP for loyal citizens to actually do.I never said resistance RP wasn't interesting, because it could be, but in all honesty, what is there for a loyal citizen to do who isn't going to join the CCA or CWU? That's why City is so dead.
Quote from: Ricky on February 02, 2013, 03:58:40 AMQuote from: Sexy Frog on February 02, 2013, 02:48:39 AMFor instance:QuoteI myself prefer Outlands greatly over city. Reason being, after almost 2 years of playing HL2RP, city RP is the same thing over and over again. Clean up that street. Fix that wall. Line up so I can cavity check you. There's not a whole lot of room for modulation in the city. In outlands, you have a much wider area of freedom to do what you want. You can make friends, start a business, go on adventures, build a scrapper tank that shoots rocks with pneumatics. Whatever you want. Its survival RP as well so there's always something to do like collect water, go hunting, gather fruits/vegetables, or upkeep the shelter. There's no sitting, waiting around for something to happen (unless you lack imagination) passive RPing in your home or sitting on a bench.Okay, you say that Outlands is better because there's more freedom and action. Great, perfectly understandable. No argument here. But you also state that City is boring because it holds none of these aspects and that cleaning/getting oppressed all the time is boring. Well, to be entirely honest that is the WHOLE THEME OF CITY. Oppression and misery. Sure, you may get a flit of action here or there with some rebel groups like Third Eye or Red Union or whatever but there isn't much. However, I can't fault you for not stating constructiveness as it was indeed a preference thread.Right, so you have just indirectly admitted that the Half-Life 2 canon is absolutely terrible for a city-oriented roleplay server, because the essence of roleplay is freedom and the essence of oppression is the detraction of freedom. Do you know why people never suggest anything constructive to fix City? There isn't any way to fix City. All of the problems that exist within City are inherent byproducts of the shoddy Half-Life 2 canon that should have never been used for a city-oriented roleplay server to begin with. Though no one would ever agree to it, a replacement of the canon in HL2RP with something more unique and specially crafted to avoid the issues that stem from the Half-Life 2 canon would be the ultimate solution.That doesn't explain why and how city was nearly full, or at the very least half full, almost every day for 2011 and up to the fall of 2012, while outlands was completely empty, being extremely lucky to get 5 players on a weekend.On a side note, I brought this up in an admin meeting we had last night, but I'll bring it up here as well. Where is everyone who was screaming for HL2RP in the 3 months that clockwork was in development?Also, regarding Frog's suggestion of exogen breaches and necrotics in P3, I brought up the fact that citizens want action oriented events last night in an admin meeting and I even said, "I know they're frowned upon and regarded as stupid, but let's do necrotic and exogen events more often because people love the action." I didn't word it exactly like that, but that was my point. It pretty much got heavily shot down by the other admins because no one likes doing these events, including myself honestly. But as of now, we need a quick but efficient fix to the city issue for various reasons.
Where is everyone who was screaming for HL2RP in the 3 months that clockwork was in development?