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Title: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Adam S on June 24, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
I'm going to make this short.

What the fuck?  Are you trying to encourage rebellions?  All they do in D2 is talk about rebelling, how they left the city, or fuck each other(Even tho they do it in the city).  I thought we called it the slums for a reason....

Anyways i dont think they should be allowed in there for that reason.  If you care let everyone in the slums for a day and monitor the chat all they will talk about is rebellion and how they left the city or got these guns they stole by zip-tieing cps.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Nicknero on June 24, 2011, 09:08:49 AM
I don't know how people ever got this in their mind, but since when are citizens allowed in D2? They are NOT.
There is no thread about how they are, and as long as I don't see any, they are NOT AND NEVER allowed in D2.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Adam S on June 24, 2011, 09:16:58 AM
I don't know how people ever got this in their mind, but since when are citizens allowed in D2? They are NOT.
There is no thread about how they are, and as long as I don't see any, they are NOT AND NEVER allowed in D2.
Yankee and a group of people got the idea and i really think high command needs arranged again if this is their ideas.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Nicknero on June 24, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
I don't know how people ever got this in their mind, but since when are citizens allowed in D2? They are NOT.
There is no thread about how they are, and as long as I don't see any, they are NOT AND NEVER allowed in D2.
Yankee and a group of people got the idea and i really think high command needs arranged again if this is their ideas.

I very clearly told yankee to talk to other SA's before making such stupid rules, yet as I said earlier, this is not a rule if it is not made clear on the forums. Citizens are NOT allowed in D2 according to the combine laws, and NEVER WILL.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: BltElite on June 24, 2011, 10:36:02 AM
If it boils down to this again.. I fucking swear. BB needs to get more active, as at the moment basically NOVA are doing everything and sorta calling the shots.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: ???????£??Rose Nocturna??? on June 24, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
BB plays a standard unit more often than he does anything else, and that is when he is on.  D:

I've been inactive to, but not like that, I have a job.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: BltElite on June 24, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
BB plays a standard unit more often than he does anything else, and that is when he is on.  D:

I've been inactive to, but not like that, I have a job.

Your on when your on, BB just goes off and plays random other shit and when people ask him or put important stuff in the private fourms(COUGH FUCKING COUGH) he just doesnt seem to see it.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: YankeeSamurai on June 24, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
The thead's been up for several days now, Nick. I apologize that I didn't think to tell you about it, but the timing was such that it had been posted before you reminded me to update you on changes. Because of the timing, I assumed you had already read the thread. For the record, I've been doing my best to keep you posted on updates ever since you reminded me.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Nicknero on June 24, 2011, 11:04:02 AM
The thead's been up for several days now, Nick. I apologize that I didn't think to tell you about it, but the timing was such that it had been posted before you reminded me to update you on changes. Because of the timing, I assumed you had already read the thread. For the record, I've been doing my best to keep you posted on updates ever since you reminded me.

You've gone to far Yankee. You do not own HL2RP. You do not call ANY shots without approvement of the sector commander, specially not about UCA laws.
I've looked back 7 pages in your posts, and looked at any board in the HL2RP session, and didn't find any thread about this D2 stuff, and if you indeed posted it, I and Bullet want it gone ASAP.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: ??. McBullet on June 24, 2011, 11:05:16 AM
I do admit, I haven't been as active in decisions as I should have been.

From now on.... nobody other than Rofl is going to change a damn thing to HL2RP without going through me.

I deeply apologize for my inactivity in High Command decisions. From now on I solemnly swear to become active in decision-making.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on June 24, 2011, 12:51:20 PM
Unit 894, me, and 729 were patrolling D2, and I thought civvies were supposed to be amputated? I was getting ready to blow everyone's brains out, BECAUSE YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE.

Please make a thread clarifying this.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: smt on June 24, 2011, 12:53:45 PM
I don't want to point fingers but I didn't even know the training criteria has changed, untill someone told me...
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Yimmy The Cat on June 24, 2011, 01:02:32 PM
Yesterday i saw some CP letting in people, they jut need to be searched. There was only one doing it though, so he kept telling people to get on the wall, and would leave the barrior wide open,
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Adam S on June 24, 2011, 01:06:05 PM
Its not allowed... If you see a unit doing it tell them to stop. If they dont you tell burning bullet so we can get some harsh punishments put out.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on June 24, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
D2 is (correct me, SHOULD BE) restricted to ALL CITIZENS.

Any citizen found should be shot on sight, and any contraband taken.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: YankeeSamurai on June 24, 2011, 05:42:55 PM
The thead's been up for several days now, Nick. I apologize that I didn't think to tell you about it, but the timing was such that it had been posted before you reminded me to update you on changes. Because of the timing, I assumed you had already read the thread. For the record, I've been doing my best to keep you posted on updates ever since you reminded me.

You've gone to far Yankee. You do not own HL2RP. You do not call ANY shots without approvement of the sector commander, specially not about UCA laws.
I've looked back 7 pages in your posts, and looked at any board in the HL2RP session, and didn't find any thread about this D2 stuff, and if you indeed posted it, I and Bullet want it gone ASAP.

Right, okay. Nick, let me remind you that I haven't posted unapproved rules since I was rebuked by Burning and yourself. I'm doing my best to improve.

I don't have any problem with the chain of command, in fact I agree with Burning and yourself. I respect Burning as the SeC. As for the District 2 Access thread, it appears that somebody removed it without my knowledge.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Statua on June 25, 2011, 12:39:08 AM
Nick. You have NO right to complain whatsoever. You haven't taken the initiative to help out with correcting things in HL2RP. I agree that this opening of D2 is a dumb idea, however claiming we put ourselves in-charge is ignorance as we didn't claim to be in-charge. We took the initiative to fix shit that would otherwise, be left alone with problems and loopholes.

I forgot who claimed that only NOVA people were running hl2rp but really, other people are helping. People such as Karma (aka RLTK) and Nikolai are helping.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: YankeeSamurai on June 25, 2011, 01:11:00 AM
I agree that this opening of D2 is a dumb idea

Just for the record, you supported my decision on Skype. I remember you sounded very positive about it; I distinctly remember you exclaiming, "Finally!"


Anyway I've told Rofl and BB this, but in no way was I attempting to "control" hl2rp, nor did I intend to act like CG's owner. What I saw was numerous loopholes, inconsistancies, and quality issues that nobody seemed to be fixing or even noticing. My only intention was to help the community by directly addressing these issues. At the time, I felt like I was "getting things done," "stepping up to the plate," and so on. Obviously, I got carried away by my new-found influence; I got ahead of myself. I acknowledge that I overstepped my boundaries and authority, and for that I apologize. In the future, however, I sincerely hope to see more initiative from the hl2rp administration. As leaders of CG's hl2rp community, we should constantly be thinking of new ways to improve the server and better its gameplay. That was my goal from the start of my admin-ship, and it will continue to be my goal for the duration of my time in Catalyst Gaming.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Statua on June 25, 2011, 01:50:03 AM
I agree that this opening of D2 is a dumb idea

Just for the record, you supported my decision on Skype. I remember you sounded very positive about it; I distinctly remember you exclaiming, "Finally!"


I said yes at the time but then i remembered about the resistance and thought you would think the same. However you didn't and ended up opening D2. Opening D2 would be fine if we had an outlands server. Then the only checkpoint searches would be for citizens entering the plaza (not leaving as they should already be cleaned right?)
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Nicknero on June 25, 2011, 05:25:57 AM
Anyway I've told Rofl and BB this, but in no way was I attempting to "control" hl2rp, nor did I intend to act like CG's owner. What I saw was numerous loopholes, inconsistancies, and quality issues that nobody seemed to be fixing or even noticing. My only intention was to help the community by directly addressing these issues. At the time, I felt like I was "getting things done," "stepping up to the plate," and so on. Obviously, I got carried away by my new-found influence; I got ahead of myself. I acknowledge that I overstepped my boundaries and authority, and for that I apologize. In the future, however, I sincerely hope to see more initiative from the hl2rp administration. As leaders of CG's hl2rp community, we should constantly be thinking of new ways to improve the server and better its gameplay. That was my goal from the start of my admin-ship, and it will continue to be my goal for the duration of my time in Catalyst Gaming.

I totally respect your initiative to improve HL2RP, and I totally agree that we all should do this constantly, but you have to remember that you can't just simply put up new UCA laws or rules without the acknowledge of the higher authority. (BB for any UCA laws/rules, and ALL the other SAs for general rules.)
But yeah, I told you this on steam already, and you agreed with me that in future we need to come to an agreement first before applying any new ideas/rules, so I hope this will be done.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Pielolz on June 25, 2011, 10:01:21 AM
Wait; when the fuck did any one say ever that D2 is OPEN?! THE HELL?! If D2 were to be opened you'd need COTA patrols on a minutely basis.. Whom opened D2? They could ambush CPs from the catwalks and bridge! Still, D2 should be closed for everyone and if any one trys to get in they should be shot to oblivion.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: chunkeymonkey79 on June 25, 2011, 10:56:01 AM
Wait; when the fuck did any one say ever that D2 is OPEN?! THE HELL?! If D2 were to be opened you'd need COTA patrols on a minutely basis.. Whom opened D2? They could ambush CPs from the catwalks and bridge! Still, D2 should be closed for everyone and if any one trys to get in they should be shot to oblivion.

Shooting on sight should be code. D2 is RESTRICTED to EVERYONE.

Policy: Enter D2 at your own risk. You will be shot if found.
Shoot first, ask questions later.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Statua on June 25, 2011, 11:07:07 AM
Wait; when the fuck did any one say ever that D2 is OPEN?! THE HELL?! If D2 were to be opened you'd need COTA patrols on a minutely basis.. Whom opened D2? They could ambush CPs from the catwalks and bridge! Still, D2 should be closed for everyone and if any one trys to get in they should be shot to oblivion.

Chill dude. We already established that. Lots of other servers have a second server for outlands which allows them to open D2. However we don't have an outlands server so that could be a problem which is why this whole controversy started.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: ??. McBullet on June 25, 2011, 11:18:44 AM
Here's my final verdict on the matter:

D2 is restricted 24/7 once more. After realizing the true purpose of D2, it will remain restricted until further notice.
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: Statua on June 25, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Here's my final verdict on the matter:

I am initiating the Semi-Restriction Verdict authorization to DvL+. When no reports of anti-civil activity has come up for at least 20 OOC minutes, a DvL may open D2 to semi-restriction (all citizens must have no more than one point, require a bodily search, and an identification check.). As soon as a report comes in/evidence of anti-civil activity, D2 is automatically closed once more, and the timer resets. Anything that requires a Level 3 Verdict WILL close D2. (Beating/detaining a citizen)

And with our server, that will never happen. Good idea. (not sarcasm btw)
Title: Re: Citizens allowed in D2? What the fuck
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on June 25, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
District two will always be fully restricted. CPs are never allowed to let citizens in. This is final.
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