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Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Topic started by: psycho on February 13, 2012, 11:27:13 PM
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To all CPs, please stop assuming every citizen is malnourished. Please stop using your assumption of the fact that the citizen you're RPing with is malnourished so you can metagame. My character for one, has lots of food ICly and OOCly, and eats healthy meals, breakfast, lunch, and supper. I am not malnourished, if anything I'm more nourished than the average CP. So for the love of god, stop assuming every citizen is malnourished. I realize MOST citizens are not malnourished, but every time a CP tries to like smack me to the ground and says "yeah ur malnourished buddy feel my wrath" it makes me want to reach through my computer and strangle them to death.
End rant.
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Well Psycho,
The basis for the malnourishment argument is the canonical knowledge that most citizens (Some being exceptions) are only fed U.U. branded food that includes chemical additives that only supply enough nutrients to survive, nothing more. The reason for this is the reason you are bringing it up, the U.U. wants to keep all citizens weak and helpless in order to better control the populace, in fact, malnourishment is one of the Union's best weapons on Earth, if you keep a man malnourished, his will to fight will follow, and if you supply said man with barely enough sustenance to live, and remind him that even that small amount of food can be taken away at the first sign of resistance, he would be pretty complacent, wouldn't he? Of course you could find some food in old, abandoned places, even grow a small amount, but that is HIGHLY unlikely.
However, if you supply a good Auth App for a food source of some sort, and inform the units of your situation, I think the units would understand and react as desired.
/counter-rant
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Take away the malnourishment,
CP's get training, with not only weaponry, but hand-to-hand combat, and get supplied things that Enhance the body as well
And you? A CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles, and (mabye) a melon, and you concider that being well-fed and more nourishment than CP's?
/lolrant
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The only excuse for nourishment for citizens is either A) illegal food suppliers. Or B) non perishable food cache. For A, you have to find one ICly ran by a real character who has auths to run it. I dont think there are any right now. For B, its extremely rare to find a can of food that hasnt been eaten let alone a cache of food. In outlands its more likely as there is lower traffic and a much more wide open space. Also, there are transport vehicles on the sodes of roads that at one time transported food. In the city, these were either blown up by combine or have been depleted by the high traffic citizens.
TL;DR you need a strong source of food to become nourished. There arent enough non-perishable foods left in s6 to provide you with this and there are no food supplier capable of providing you with enough food. Move to outlands if you want to be nourished. Even still, you have to find food.
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Again, Statua makes a good point. Yes, the CPs have a right to be OP because they ARE. Your a hungry Somalian fetus compared to them, they have the best food, training, weapons, and gear, whilst you have nothing. Fucking NONE of that, the food you are given is meant to keep you BARELY alive. So you are loyal so as you do not starve to death. And guess what? If the Combine don't like you, your Somalian scrap is taken away. You'd be dead, fast.
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I understand what he means by the mal-nurishment excuse. Considering if you even try to escape a unit in say, a search. They'll catch you instantly, and if you try to struggle away, the first thing heard is, "Ur malnurished, lol" That is besides the point half the time, because all that is being used for is an excuse. You should keep that in mind, but it shouldn't be slapped in your face everytime you try to resist an officer.
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It should, your so malnourished your bones are more brittle, your brain is deprived of necessary nutrients, slower reaction times; they do this for a reason, starvation is the greatest way to control a populace. It takes 3 weeks to die from starvation, your scrap is barely keeping you off the brink of death.
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While I agree that most Citizens are malnourished, some get their food elsewhere. I've seen someone RP eating mice, rabbits, and rats!
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Take away the malnourishment,
CP's get training, with not only weaponry, but hand-to-hand combat, and get supplied things that Enhance the body as well
And you? A CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles, and (mabye) a melon, and you concider that being well-fed and more nourishment than CP's?
/lolrant
At no point in my thread did I say that I should be able to take down 20 CPs with my bare hands simply because I eat a good breakfast. My rant was about CPs assuming all citizens are malnourished. Please, Kom'rk, next time read the OP before replying. Thanks :)
Had you read the OP, you would have read that my character eats a healthy breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I for one do not consider CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles and a melon a healthy breakfast, lunch and dinner. Again, please read the OP before posting. Thanks for trying though, bud.
The only excuse for nourishment for citizens is either A) illegal food suppliers. Or B) non perishable food cache. For A, you have to find one ICly ran by a real character who has auths to run it. I dont think there are any right now. For B, its extremely rare to find a can of food that hasnt been eaten let alone a cache of food. In outlands its more likely as there is lower traffic and a much more wide open space. Also, there are transport vehicles on the sodes of roads that at one time transported food. In the city, these were either blown up by combine or have been depleted by the high traffic citizens.
TL;DR you need a strong source of food to become nourished. There arent enough non-perishable foods left in s6 to provide you with this and there are no food supplier capable of providing you with enough food. Move to outlands if you want to be nourished. Even still, you have to find food.
I understand your point, Statua, and yes, a very large majority of citizens are malnourished, however my character DOES have a strong food source, as I stated my character not only ICly eats breakfast lunch and dinner, I actually consume the actual OOC item.Well Psycho,
The basis for the malnourishment argument is the canonical knowledge that most citizens (Some being exceptions) are only fed U.U. branded food that includes chemical additives that only supply enough nutrients to survive, nothing more. The reason for this is the reason you are bringing it up, the U.U. wants to keep all citizens weak and helpless in order to better control the populace, in fact, malnourishment is one of the Union's best weapons on Earth, if you keep a man malnourished, his will to fight will follow, and if you supply said man with barely enough sustenance to live, and remind him that even that small amount of food can be taken away at the first sign of resistance, he would be pretty complacent, wouldn't he? Of course you could find some food in old, abandoned places, even grow a small amount, but that is HIGHLY unlikely.
However, if you supply a good Auth App for a food source of some sort, and inform the units of your situation, I think the units would understand and react as desired.
/counter-rant
I agree, I failed to mention in my OP that yes, a very large majority of citizens are severely malnourished, and yes, for good reason and on purpose. However, I don't need auths to not be malnourished. I eat lots of food ICly, therefore I am not malnourished. To suggest that I need auths to eat food, is to suggest that you need auths to roleplay.
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I don't need auths to not be malnourished. I eat lots of food ICly, therefore I am not malnourished. To suggest that I need auths to eat food, is to suggest that you need auths to roleplay.
You still haven't told us what this food source is or where it comes from, and in some cases, you DO need auths to roleplay, and I believe this is one of those cases. Welcome to the club, not everybody can make up a five second story (no offense intended) on how they're so well fed and eat lots of food ICly, the auths are there to make sure you are getting said food by legitimate means, keep in mind that all U.U. branded food contains chemicals and such that barely keep you alive, so that won't pass.
TL;DR : Make an auth, save us all some trouble.
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I agree, I failed to mention in my OP that yes, a very large majority of citizens are severely malnourished, and yes, for good reason and on purpose. However, I don't need auths to not be malnourished. I eat lots of food ICly, therefore I am not malnourished. To suggest that I need auths to eat food, is to suggest that you need auths to roleplay.
You still haven't told us what this food source is or where it comes from, and in some cases, you DO need auths to roleplay, and I believe this is one of those cases. Welcome to the club, not everybody can make up a five second story (no offense intended) on how they're so well fed and eat lots of food ICly, the auths are there to make sure you are getting said food by legitimate means, keep in mind that all U.U. branded food contains chemicals and such that barely keep you alive, so that won't pass.
I don't eat U.U. branded food, if you must know I have direct links to illegal food dealers, and I regularly make large purchases kind of like grocery shopping, and I store the food and eat it overtime. And no offense taken, I wasn't trying to make a story for auths to prove my character is malnourished. He just isn't malnourished. CPs imply that every citizen eats UU rations, and while most do, mine doesn't. Plain and simple.
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Well if you make the authorisation application for this food source and inform the CCA units in question of the situation then we can stop wasting our breath on this. Let the administrators decide what to do about this.
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Well if you make the authorisation application for this food source and inform the CCA units in question of the situation then we can stop wasting our breath on this. Let the administrators decide what to do about this.
Honestly I don't know why you keep bringing up authorizations. You DON'T need authorizations to eat food, and an administrator doesn't need to decide anything. If I literally needed administrator auths to eat food ICly, then that would be literally taking it to the level of you need administrator auths to roleplay.
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Do you get this food from another character that sells them or is this fresh-food contact purely IC?
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From another character that sells them. As I said before, I literally consume the OOC item. I think that's what the misunderstanding here was.
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Ah, well if it is another character that sells them and not a fabricated character, you don't need anything. Twas my misunderstanding, as for the units, I've written above, just calmly explain to them in LOOC what your situation is
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Where do you ICly store the food, and how is the food ICly transported from wherever it's kept by the dealer to your residence? I'm not doubting you have it figured out, I'm merely curious.
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Take away the malnourishment,
CP's get training, with not only weaponry, but hand-to-hand combat, and get supplied things that Enhance the body as well
And you? A CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles, and (mabye) a melon, and you concider that being well-fed and more nourishment than CP's?
/lolrant
At no point in my thread did I say that I should be able to take down 20 CPs with my bare hands simply because I eat a good breakfast. My rant was about CPs assuming all citizens are malnourished. Please, Kom'rk, next time read the OP before replying. Thanks :)
Had you read the OP, you would have read that my character eats a healthy breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I for one do not consider CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles and a melon a healthy breakfast, lunch and dinner. Again, please read the OP before posting. Thanks for trying though, bud.
Where did I say anything about taking down CP's at all?
I didn't read hmm?
My character for one, has lots of food ICly and OOCly, and eats healthy meals, breakfast, lunch, and supper. I am not malnourished, if anything I'm more nourished than the average CP.
End rant.
1. You aren't more nourished than the average CP, not by a long shot.
2. Concidering the entire world is under combine control, while it wouldn't be impossible, the types of 'healthy' food would be incredibly spare, especially in large quantities (or small quantities over a long period of time), even then, in the combine-controlled cities, where even the public water is monitered and 'doctored' correctly, I doubt that you would ICly get enough food for complete nourishment, not that it's impossible though.
But indeed, I would also like to second Yankee's question.
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I'm quite happy now that I have a legitimate authorization app which was accepted by super admins. Mad, CCA? Probably not, which is another point. Even though my character is a steroid junkie, with enough strength to move likely tip a van, I still could not compare to maybe 2 or 4 low-ranked units.
Tactics for CPs to fuck up Anti-Citizen unarmed fagballs, is like this.
-They're malnourished, so won't put up a good fight unless they're suicidal.
-CPs usually raid in packs, like wolves, so even if they were fucking Jihad on you, they'd be smacked silly.
-CPs use stunsticks, steroids and SHIT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE to overpower you CANONICALLY, not even in the retarded Robocop one Kurozael made up.
-Even if they have pro weapons and ninja skills, you can't play to win against a speeding bullet.
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I highly doubt you'd be able to have 3 full meals a day. Because guess what? Supermarkets don't exist anymore. Combine took all the food away. Farms don't exist anymore. Combine took all of them away as well. So quite literally the only non-UU stuff you'll find are the scraps and crappy stuff that people may have been able to scrounge around for and find.
So it would be nice for a little clarification on your end on what you are eating exactly, and how said supplier actually gets ahold of said food.
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I see it as this, when you are a citizen, you roleplay to lose. A citizen picking a fight with a Civil Worker wouldn't be that great of an idea, beacuase they have more exercise and need of strength and other bodily skills to do their jobs. CCA are TRAINED in hand to hand combat, and are physically superior, no matter what. Almost every time.
I want to add the variation of a CWU into this argument. Would you not agree that Civil Workers are less mal nourished than citizens? Sure we only eat UU Branded food, but we eat a lot of it? We get extra rations and have our supplements on TOP of Donuts, melons, oranges, etc. Half the time my character is carrying a deceased body here or there, I'd say that's an increase in strength and a level on the rest.
My argument in a basic form is this.
Civilians can beat Civilians
Civilians Can't ALL WAYS beat Civil Workers (Never in a 1v1)
CCA Beats all, every time.
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Don't get me wrong, I do play to lose, but I've had situations where it's 4 citizens vs. a CP and they still won't play to lose.
Playing to lose is a two way street.
The issue with the CCA today is there are literally rules against playing to lose.
I know you all hate TnB, but 3 years back when I was a CP on TnB, I played to lose ALL THE TIME because it makes RP interesting and fun.
If you lose your gun, it's a blackmark.
If you get taken hostage, it's a blackmark or demotion.
Basically, if you LOSE it's a demotion, and it's a major flaw in the CCA. Yes, we get it, the CCA is all powerful. But HALF-LIFE TWO is a story about rebellion against the CCA and oppression, not a story about masochistic civvies who enjoy a stunstick up the ass.
Yes, we get it. Most of us are malnourished, weak, yadda yadda yadda, but CPs still need to play to lose a LITTLE BIT or it's no fun. No one likes roleplaying getting the shit beaten out of them day after day after day.
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Thats what happens when the CCA is run by someone who doesnt understand losing...
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Okay, 1: CPs get an endless amount of the best food
2: You get a cup of cold noodles, chemically altered water, and maybe a slice of Super Melon which is grown in a test tube.
3: You get that once every 3 days
4: You are a starving Somalian compared to a CP
5: CPs are laced with steroids and drugs that decrease reaction times
6: Your being brainwashed
7: You know nothing of the Combine. All the ranks you know are "The guy with the bigger gun is a higher rank."
8: You don't have weapons, maybe a shiv, but not a heavy batton that electrocutes you
9: Sense your a starving Somalian, that baton without the shock would crush your bones
10: Your bones are brittle, your skin is unhealthy, flimsy and weak, your brain is slower, you feel like shit, your always hungry, and the odds are stacked against you
VICTORY CHART
Citizen Vs. CP= CP wins
CWU Vs. CP = CP wins
Or
RcT = Healthier and stronger Citizen, it takes 2+ to take one down
04 more trained, stronger 04, +3 to take down
03 Much stronger and trained then an 04, however 3+
02: 4+
01: 5+, They are augumented bad asses whom are like the Terminator compared to you
OfC: Dont even try
DvL:
SeC
High Rank Comparison chart:
COTA: Space Marine Terminator
SeC: Space Marine Captain
CmD: Space Marine
DvL: Neophyte scout (Badass, but can be taken down)
OfC: A veteran Colonel in the military
01: He is"human" But can loose, it will take a lot of you feral savages, though.
You get my point, the UU will not field under quality bitches, only elites.
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Renegade, read my post above Statua's. That is my reply to your post.
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Don't get me wrong, I do play to lose, but I've had situations where it's 4 citizens vs. a CP and they still won't play to lose.
Playing to lose is a two way street.
The issue with the CCA today is there are literally rules against playing to lose.
I know you all hate TnB, but 3 years back when I was a CP on TnB, I played to lose ALL THE TIME because it makes RP interesting and fun.
If you lose your gun, it's a blackmark.
If you get taken hostage, it's a blackmark or demotion.
Basically, if you LOSE it's a demotion, and it's a major flaw in the CCA. Yes, we get it, the CCA is all powerful. But HALF-LIFE TWO is a story about rebellion against the CCA and oppression, not a story about masochistic civvies who enjoy a stunstick up the ass.
Yes, we get it. Most of us are malnourished, weak, yadda yadda yadda, but CPs still need to play to lose a LITTLE BIT or it's no fun. No one likes roleplaying getting the shit beaten out of them day after day after day.
YES. I like this. Half Life 2's story is based on resisting oppression, if you don't give people the chance to have fun with the canon, you seriously expect people to play on a server, where you sit smugly in your nexus, eating steroids and augments for breakfast, completely STEAMROLLING everything when you exit?
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Don't get me wrong, I do play to lose, but I've had situations where it's 4 citizens vs. a CP and they still won't play to lose.
Playing to lose is a two way street.
The issue with the CCA today is there are literally rules against playing to lose.
I know you all hate TnB, but 3 years back when I was a CP on TnB, I played to lose ALL THE TIME because it makes RP interesting and fun.
If you lose your gun, it's a blackmark.
If you get taken hostage, it's a blackmark or demotion.
Basically, if you LOSE it's a demotion, and it's a major flaw in the CCA. Yes, we get it, the CCA is all powerful. But HALF-LIFE TWO is a story about rebellion against the CCA and oppression, not a story about masochistic civvies who enjoy a stunstick up the ass.
Yes, we get it. Most of us are malnourished, weak, yadda yadda yadda, but CPs still need to play to lose a LITTLE BIT or it's no fun. No one likes roleplaying getting the shit beaten out of them day after day after day.
YES. I like this. Half Life 2's story is based on resisting oppression, if you don't give people the chance to have fun with the canon, you seriously expect people to play on a server, where you sit smugly in your nexus, eating steroids and augments for breakfast, completely STEAMROLLING everything when you exit?
Now you know what it is like to oppose the U.S. Military :3
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Don't get me wrong, I do play to lose, but I've had situations where it's 4 citizens vs. a CP and they still won't play to lose.
Playing to lose is a two way street.
The issue with the CCA today is there are literally rules against playing to lose.
I know you all hate TnB, but 3 years back when I was a CP on TnB, I played to lose ALL THE TIME because it makes RP interesting and fun.
If you lose your gun, it's a blackmark.
If you get taken hostage, it's a blackmark or demotion.
Basically, if you LOSE it's a demotion, and it's a major flaw in the CCA. Yes, we get it, the CCA is all powerful. But HALF-LIFE TWO is a story about rebellion against the CCA and oppression, not a story about masochistic civvies who enjoy a stunstick up the ass.
Yes, we get it. Most of us are malnourished, weak, yadda yadda yadda, but CPs still need to play to lose a LITTLE BIT or it's no fun. No one likes roleplaying getting the shit beaten out of them day after day after day.
YES. I like this. Half Life 2's story is based on resisting oppression, if you don't give people the chance to have fun with the canon, you seriously expect people to play on a server, where you sit smugly in your nexus, eating steroids and augments for breakfast, completely STEAMROLLING everything when you exit?
Now you know what it is like to oppose the U.S. Military :3
Now give us all your oil!
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Don't get me wrong, I do play to lose, but I've had situations where it's 4 citizens vs. a CP and they still won't play to lose.
Playing to lose is a two way street.
The issue with the CCA today is there are literally rules against playing to lose.
I know you all hate TnB, but 3 years back when I was a CP on TnB, I played to lose ALL THE TIME because it makes RP interesting and fun.
If you lose your gun, it's a blackmark.
If you get taken hostage, it's a blackmark or demotion.
Basically, if you LOSE it's a demotion, and it's a major flaw in the CCA. Yes, we get it, the CCA is all powerful. But HALF-LIFE TWO is a story about rebellion against the CCA and oppression, not a story about masochistic civvies who enjoy a stunstick up the ass.
Yes, we get it. Most of us are malnourished, weak, yadda yadda yadda, but CPs still need to play to lose a LITTLE BIT or it's no fun. No one likes roleplaying getting the shit beaten out of them day after day after day.
YES. I like this. Half Life 2's story is based on resisting oppression, if you don't give people the chance to have fun with the canon, you seriously expect people to play on a server, where you sit smugly in your nexus, eating steroids and augments for breakfast, completely STEAMROLLING everything when you exit?
Now you know what it is like to oppose the U.S. Military :3
Now give us all your oil!
Even though America never gained any oil when they invaded Iraq, that still seems to be a common joke. I don't understand.
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Yeah the joke is over now, back onto topic.
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On the first day of getting Recruit, you are still malnourished, untrained and you're just a citizen in a suit. You shall slowly regain your health as time goes by, so by the end of being a Recruit, you could easily take on one citizen but two at a time is very, very hard. An 04 can take on two Citizens with some struggle and can lose, but anything higher is very hard. An 03 can take on about 3-5 Citizens at once, depending on their training and body. An 02 can easily take on 4-5 Citizens, 6+ would be too hard. An 01 can take on 6-8, while an EpU is about the same. OfC+ is something no citizen should even bother to take on. Taking on an OfC is like trying to knock a brick down with a spoon, you'll need a lot of people and some damn strong spoons to do it.
Tl;dr
No Unit is impossible to beat. Even the SeC can be beaten... with about 100-200 citizens...
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I think some great points have been made here already, so I'm not going to re-iterate them yet again. Psycho, I noticed you mentioned more than once that you actually "Consume the food OOCly." I don't really understand how that is tied to anything in the game. I may be completely misunderstanding you, and if I am, then forgive me. Are you saying though, that you eat food while sitting in front of your computer, and then count that ICly eating the same food because you just do a /me eats whole pizza? What we're trying to find out from you, is WHO is supplying your amazing source of healthy food that is non-U.U. branded? For someone to be doing so, I'm pretty sure they would require authorizations to RP such a job. You need to be actually getting physical food items in the game, not walking around D6 talking to someone and doing "/me takes crate of steak." I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but if you are doing that, its not proper, and isn't actually getting food ICly. That's just like me walking around and ICly finding large quantities of food everywhere. Let's assume someone is authed to have such a job and is supplying you with non U.U. branded food in large quantities, or even small quantities over short periods of time. They're not going to give you this food for free, they're going to charge something for it. So if you're not eating rations, in which you get 60 tokens in every time you get one, then you have 0 income. You can't possibly be paying this supplier in ammo or guns, because its unlikely that you have much of either, and its a 99% chance that even if you do a bit of ammo and a few guns, you don't have enough to trade to someone for food that would last you more than a day. And if the supplier isn't charging you anything for this constant food supply, then how is he/she getting it ICly? What is their source for getting this food? Its already been mentioned that all farms are gone, and all supermarkets are gone. Basically, all food is supplied by the CWU, which is monitored by the Combine, given out in rations, or it isn't supplied at all.
What is unchangeable, is the fact that the city is 100% monitored by the CCA at all times. The only way to get food is to be loyal and be there during ration time, or to buy it from a CWU worker. Even if the food sold by the CWU wasn't chemically altered to keep you weak, they're only snack foods anyway. So if you're hiding in D6, you need some sort of food supplier, which to my knowledge, is non-existent as of now. Sure, you can say "I live off of rats and cockroaches." Even with that excuse, there are no where near enough rats and cockroaches to keep you alive for even 3 weeks, not to mention the almost guaranteed diseases you'd get from eating them. This sort of leads me to another point, which is how people who literally live in D6 and never leave it survive. Having Tool Trust and spawning in a box of Chinese Takeout then doing "/me eats" then deleting the prop doesn't work. Hell, I could do that and ICly get obese from it.
You pretty much have two options. Be loyal, eat your rations and CWU snacks to barely survive, or run to live a life of crime and "Freedom" in D6 and eventually starve to death after about a month. Logically, this is how it should be. Enough people complain about starving to death because of lack of rations, yet I'll bet most of them hide in D6 all day anyway. You can't just run to live in D6 and then say "Oh I'm not eating Combine issued rations anymore, therefore my food is not tampered with and its healthy, which makes me strong and healthy." You can't say that because THERE IS NO REAL FOOD SOURCE IN D6, especially not enough of one to make you any more healthy or stronger than a citizen eating their rations and CWU snack foods.
So Psycho, please explain, as you've been asked to multiple times, the source of your massive amount of healthy food that keeps you healthier than the average CCA unit (which would be a typical 03), and how you're surviving in D6 so well. I assume you're living outside of the Plaza, since you have no need for rations or CWU goods.
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When he says "consume the food OOCly" I think he means "use"ing the food item itself.
Half-Life 2 is about overthrowing an occupation.
Half-Life 2 ROLEPLAY is about living in the occupation. Before the events of Half-Life 2 there were around 3-5 years of Combine occupation on earth with little resistance. Yes, Lambda was around but the amount of actual resisting going on was minimal. Because otherwise the Combine would have turned the earth to glass before Freeman even arrived.
Renegade, you're quite a bit wrong on a few things but I won't go into detail (01 having augments is one of them).
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I think some great points have been made here already, so I'm not going to re-iterate them yet again. Psycho, I noticed you mentioned more than once that you actually "Consume the food OOCly." I don't really understand how that is tied to anything in the game. I may be completely misunderstanding you, and if I am, then forgive me. Are you saying though, that you eat food while sitting in front of your computer, and then count that ICly eating the same food because you just do a /me eats whole pizza? What we're trying to find out from you, is WHO is supplying your amazing source of healthy food that is non-U.U. branded? For someone to be doing so, I'm pretty sure they would require authorizations to RP such a job. You need to be actually getting physical food items in the game, not walking around D6 talking to someone and doing "/me takes crate of steak." I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but if you are doing that, its not proper, and isn't actually getting food ICly. That's just like me walking around and ICly finding large quantities of food everywhere. Let's assume someone is authed to have such a job and is supplying you with non U.U. branded food in large quantities, or even small quantities over short periods of time. They're not going to give you this food for free, they're going to charge something for it. So if you're not eating rations, in which you get 60 tokens in every time you get one, then you have 0 income. You can't possibly be paying this supplier in ammo or guns, because its unlikely that you have much of either, and its a 99% chance that even if you do a bit of ammo and a few guns, you don't have enough to trade to someone for food that would last you more than a day. And if the supplier isn't charging you anything for this constant food supply, then how is he/she getting it ICly? What is their source for getting this food? Its already been mentioned that all farms are gone, and all supermarkets are gone. Basically, all food is supplied by the CWU, which is monitored by the Combine, given out in rations, or it isn't supplied at all.
What is unchangeable, is the fact that the city is 100% monitored by the CCA at all times. The only way to get food is to be loyal and be there during ration time, or to buy it from a CWU worker. Even if the food sold by the CWU wasn't chemically altered to keep you weak, they're only snack foods anyway. So if you're hiding in D6, you need some sort of food supplier, which to my knowledge, is non-existent as of now. Sure, you can say "I live off of rats and cockroaches." Even with that excuse, there are no where near enough rats and cockroaches to keep you alive for even 3 weeks, not to mention the almost guaranteed diseases you'd get from eating them. This sort of leads me to another point, which is how people who literally live in D6 and never leave it survive. Having Tool Trust and spawning in a box of Chinese Takeout then doing "/me eats" then deleting the prop doesn't work. Hell, I could do that and ICly get obese from it.
You pretty much have two options. Be loyal, eat your rations and CWU snacks to barely survive, or run to live a life of crime and "Freedom" in D6 and eventually starve to death after about a month. Logically, this is how it should be. Enough people complain about starving to death because of lack of rations, yet I'll bet most of them hide in D6 all day anyway. You can't just run to live in D6 and then say "Oh I'm not eating Combine issued rations anymore, therefore my food is not tampered with and its healthy, which makes me strong and healthy." You can't say that because THERE IS NO REAL FOOD SOURCE IN D6, especially not enough of one to make you any more healthy or stronger than a citizen eating their rations and CWU snack foods.
So Psycho, please explain, as you've been asked to multiple times, the source of your massive amount of healthy food that keeps you healthier than the average CCA unit (which would be a typical 03), and how you're surviving in D6 so well. I assume you're living outside of the Plaza, since you have no need for rations or CWU goods.
Just a misunderstanding, Airborne. When I said I OOCly consume the item, I didn't mean I'm actually eatting a pizza in real life (although I would enjoy that), I meant I literally "use" the item like GeneralTrivium said, and roleplay eatting it in the game. Yes, there are people in D6 who sell Non-UU food, quite a few people actually. For obvious reasons I'm not going to write down their actual character's name, but you guys are just misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I physically purchase large quantities of Non-UU food and consume them in-game while roleplaying eatting them.
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I think some great points have been made here already, so I'm not going to re-iterate them yet again. Psycho, I noticed you mentioned more than once that you actually "Consume the food OOCly." I don't really understand how that is tied to anything in the game. I may be completely misunderstanding you, and if I am, then forgive me. Are you saying though, that you eat food while sitting in front of your computer, and then count that ICly eating the same food because you just do a /me eats whole pizza? What we're trying to find out from you, is WHO is supplying your amazing source of healthy food that is non-U.U. branded? For someone to be doing so, I'm pretty sure they would require authorizations to RP such a job. You need to be actually getting physical food items in the game, not walking around D6 talking to someone and doing "/me takes crate of steak." I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but if you are doing that, its not proper, and isn't actually getting food ICly. That's just like me walking around and ICly finding large quantities of food everywhere. Let's assume someone is authed to have such a job and is supplying you with non U.U. branded food in large quantities, or even small quantities over short periods of time. They're not going to give you this food for free, they're going to charge something for it. So if you're not eating rations, in which you get 60 tokens in every time you get one, then you have 0 income. You can't possibly be paying this supplier in ammo or guns, because its unlikely that you have much of either, and its a 99% chance that even if you do a bit of ammo and a few guns, you don't have enough to trade to someone for food that would last you more than a day. And if the supplier isn't charging you anything for this constant food supply, then how is he/she getting it ICly? What is their source for getting this food? Its already been mentioned that all farms are gone, and all supermarkets are gone. Basically, all food is supplied by the CWU, which is monitored by the Combine, given out in rations, or it isn't supplied at all.
What is unchangeable, is the fact that the city is 100% monitored by the CCA at all times. The only way to get food is to be loyal and be there during ration time, or to buy it from a CWU worker. Even if the food sold by the CWU wasn't chemically altered to keep you weak, they're only snack foods anyway. So if you're hiding in D6, you need some sort of food supplier, which to my knowledge, is non-existent as of now. Sure, you can say "I live off of rats and cockroaches." Even with that excuse, there are no where near enough rats and cockroaches to keep you alive for even 3 weeks, not to mention the almost guaranteed diseases you'd get from eating them. This sort of leads me to another point, which is how people who literally live in D6 and never leave it survive. Having Tool Trust and spawning in a box of Chinese Takeout then doing "/me eats" then deleting the prop doesn't work. Hell, I could do that and ICly get obese from it.
You pretty much have two options. Be loyal, eat your rations and CWU snacks to barely survive, or run to live a life of crime and "Freedom" in D6 and eventually starve to death after about a month. Logically, this is how it should be. Enough people complain about starving to death because of lack of rations, yet I'll bet most of them hide in D6 all day anyway. You can't just run to live in D6 and then say "Oh I'm not eating Combine issued rations anymore, therefore my food is not tampered with and its healthy, which makes me strong and healthy." You can't say that because THERE IS NO REAL FOOD SOURCE IN D6, especially not enough of one to make you any more healthy or stronger than a citizen eating their rations and CWU snack foods.
So Psycho, please explain, as you've been asked to multiple times, the source of your massive amount of healthy food that keeps you healthier than the average CCA unit (which would be a typical 03), and how you're surviving in D6 so well. I assume you're living outside of the Plaza, since you have no need for rations or CWU goods.
Just a misunderstanding, Airborne. When I said I OOCly consume the item, I didn't mean I'm actually eatting a pizza in real life (although I would enjoy that), I meant I literally "use" the item like GeneralTrivium said, and roleplay eatting it in the game. Yes, there are people in D6 who sell Non-UU food, quite a few people actually. For obvious reasons I'm not going to write down their actual character's name, but you guys are just misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I physically purchase large quantities of Non-UU food and consume them in-game while roleplaying eatting them.
Psycho. I understand where you are coming from fully.
I can hopefully resolve this by telling you, if you eat food ICly and OOCly (which as stated is actually using the food item) - Then explain that to the officer calmly in LOOC. If he is an actually good roleplayer, he will take into consideration ever aspect of your environment. Here's where this is a problem, people on the other end not being honest about their characters being well fed eating food ICly and OOCly. That's really the only issue.
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I think some great points have been made here already, so I'm not going to re-iterate them yet again. Psycho, I noticed you mentioned more than once that you actually "Consume the food OOCly." I don't really understand how that is tied to anything in the game. I may be completely misunderstanding you, and if I am, then forgive me. Are you saying though, that you eat food while sitting in front of your computer, and then count that ICly eating the same food because you just do a /me eats whole pizza? What we're trying to find out from you, is WHO is supplying your amazing source of healthy food that is non-U.U. branded? For someone to be doing so, I'm pretty sure they would require authorizations to RP such a job. You need to be actually getting physical food items in the game, not walking around D6 talking to someone and doing "/me takes crate of steak." I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but if you are doing that, its not proper, and isn't actually getting food ICly. That's just like me walking around and ICly finding large quantities of food everywhere. Let's assume someone is authed to have such a job and is supplying you with non U.U. branded food in large quantities, or even small quantities over short periods of time. They're not going to give you this food for free, they're going to charge something for it. So if you're not eating rations, in which you get 60 tokens in every time you get one, then you have 0 income. You can't possibly be paying this supplier in ammo or guns, because its unlikely that you have much of either, and its a 99% chance that even if you do a bit of ammo and a few guns, you don't have enough to trade to someone for food that would last you more than a day. And if the supplier isn't charging you anything for this constant food supply, then how is he/she getting it ICly? What is their source for getting this food? Its already been mentioned that all farms are gone, and all supermarkets are gone. Basically, all food is supplied by the CWU, which is monitored by the Combine, given out in rations, or it isn't supplied at all.
What is unchangeable, is the fact that the city is 100% monitored by the CCA at all times. The only way to get food is to be loyal and be there during ration time, or to buy it from a CWU worker. Even if the food sold by the CWU wasn't chemically altered to keep you weak, they're only snack foods anyway. So if you're hiding in D6, you need some sort of food supplier, which to my knowledge, is non-existent as of now. Sure, you can say "I live off of rats and cockroaches." Even with that excuse, there are no where near enough rats and cockroaches to keep you alive for even 3 weeks, not to mention the almost guaranteed diseases you'd get from eating them. This sort of leads me to another point, which is how people who literally live in D6 and never leave it survive. Having Tool Trust and spawning in a box of Chinese Takeout then doing "/me eats" then deleting the prop doesn't work. Hell, I could do that and ICly get obese from it.
You pretty much have two options. Be loyal, eat your rations and CWU snacks to barely survive, or run to live a life of crime and "Freedom" in D6 and eventually starve to death after about a month. Logically, this is how it should be. Enough people complain about starving to death because of lack of rations, yet I'll bet most of them hide in D6 all day anyway. You can't just run to live in D6 and then say "Oh I'm not eating Combine issued rations anymore, therefore my food is not tampered with and its healthy, which makes me strong and healthy." You can't say that because THERE IS NO REAL FOOD SOURCE IN D6, especially not enough of one to make you any more healthy or stronger than a citizen eating their rations and CWU snack foods.
So Psycho, please explain, as you've been asked to multiple times, the source of your massive amount of healthy food that keeps you healthier than the average CCA unit (which would be a typical 03), and how you're surviving in D6 so well. I assume you're living outside of the Plaza, since you have no need for rations or CWU goods.
Just a misunderstanding, Airborne. When I said I OOCly consume the item, I didn't mean I'm actually eatting a pizza in real life (although I would enjoy that), I meant I literally "use" the item like GeneralTrivium said, and roleplay eatting it in the game. Yes, there are people in D6 who sell Non-UU food, quite a few people actually. For obvious reasons I'm not going to write down their actual character's name, but you guys are just misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I physically purchase large quantities of Non-UU food and consume them in-game while roleplaying eatting them.
Psycho. I understand where you are coming from fully.
I can hopefully resolve this by telling you, if you eat food ICly and OOCly (which as stated is actually using the food item) - Then explain that to the officer calmly in LOOC. If he is an actually good roleplayer, he will take into consideration ever aspect of your environment. Here's where this is a problem, people on the other end not being honest about their characters being well fed eating food ICly and OOCly. That's really the only issue.
Yes, I agree, and you're right. Hell, I don't even expect most people to believe me that my character is well fed. But eh, what are you gonna do I guess.
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/me cleans the man.
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Just a misunderstanding, Airborne. When I said I OOCly consume the item, I didn't mean I'm actually eatting a pizza in real life (although I would enjoy that), I meant I literally "use" the item like GeneralTrivium said, and roleplay eatting it in the game. Yes, there are people in D6 who sell Non-UU food, quite a few people actually. For obvious reasons I'm not going to write down their actual character's name, but you guys are just misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I physically purchase large quantities of Non-UU food and consume them in-game while roleplaying eatting them.
Ah okay. Yes I misunderstood you. I didn't even think about "using" the food item when you were talking about "OOCly consuming the food." I apologize for that. I am still wondering what you purchase the food with however. Do you come out of D6 and get rations during ration time? If not, then you couldn't be buying the food with tokens.
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Just a misunderstanding, Airborne. When I said I OOCly consume the item, I didn't mean I'm actually eatting a pizza in real life (although I would enjoy that), I meant I literally "use" the item like GeneralTrivium said, and roleplay eatting it in the game. Yes, there are people in D6 who sell Non-UU food, quite a few people actually. For obvious reasons I'm not going to write down their actual character's name, but you guys are just misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I physically purchase large quantities of Non-UU food and consume them in-game while roleplaying eatting them.
Ah okay. Yes I misunderstood you. I didn't even think about "using" the food item when you were talking about "OOCly consuming the food." I apologize for that. I am still wondering what you purchase the food with however. Do you come out of D6 and get rations during ration time? If not, then you couldn't be buying the food with tokens.
I purchase the food with tokens and no I don't get rations. My source of tokens comes from purchasing shipments of contraband in large quantities and selling them to other citizens.
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Take away the malnourishment,
CP's get training, with not only weaponry, but hand-to-hand combat, and get supplied things that Enhance the body as well
And you? A CWU lemonade, a cup of cold noodles, and (mabye) a melon, and you concider that being well-fed and more nourishment than CP's?
/lolrant
True man, when people pull that shit it makes me mad, no one reads the directory guides and cry Powergame every time a cp does something logical.