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Title: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Hazard Time on October 03, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
The other day, it came to me that perhaps the reason why HL2RP City died was because it had been stagnating for a long time.  The warning signs were everywhere really, and now I wish to pronounce our City server officially DEAD.  The obvious answer is:  What can we do to replace City?  I heard some pretty good ideas from other people.  Elions (?) mentioned a Fallout RP server, but if we really wanted a survival RP, we would all go to Outlands.  RTLK suggested Disney Park RP.  Not quite sure why.  However, Emory, in another thread (http://www.catalyst-gaming.net/index.php?topic=19592.0 (http://www.catalyst-gaming.net/index.php?topic=19592.0)), mentioned a mars colony RP server.  This is the most original idea I have heard so far, but I would like to put my spin on it:

Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Dixon on October 03, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
What about a Zombie Survival RP? Or a SERIOUS War like when you first join You are private...Then make auths for ranks or a higher ranking officer can do it for you, For me that is a great idea.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Scratchie on October 03, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Disney Park RP is just because it'd be interesting. Was kinda a joke but once I thought of it I thought it could be interesting. Reason I thought of it is cause I'm hopefully getting a job there.

But I do agree we need a new server. HL2RP isn't dead, but we do need something new.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: swag master spiderman on October 03, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
I wouldn't really say HL2RP is dead, but a new rp server might be interesting.

Not sure on what the theme could be.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: OwenCobs on October 03, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
*Cough* OCRP2.

Isn't 100% serious but it's on it's way.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on October 03, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
We've got something planned but HL2RP isn't going anywhere. It's gone through it's ups and downs in the past and I'm sure it'll be back to it's old popularity soon.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 03, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
14/40 So far it looks good to me.

Although yes, I would like to see something fresh and new. I personally have gotten bored of HL2RP after a year and a bit of playing the same thing over and over and over and over and over a- yeah. So yeah something new would be nice.

I was thinking. Outlands is HL2RP survival. What if we took that and changed it so some other post apocalypse survival, based off something premade like terminator, or maybe based off our own story? Survival RP is pretty awesome IMO but the whole HL2RP Survival thing makes it really bland...
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Tyrone McNigga on October 03, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
Omg this seems like a good idea!
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Sexy Frog on October 03, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
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Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: rBST Cow on October 03, 2012, 05:02:32 PM
I'd like to see a Space/Mars Colony server. Or even EvE OnlineRP
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Rudolph the Master Blaster on October 03, 2012, 05:21:42 PM
As this may of been mentioned so many times, i'd just like to make a suggestion, of course im not insisting that this is a must.

TRP, This includes the same "Actiony/ Depressed" theme from hl2rp, And mixes it together with the Survival aspects of Outlands.
Quote from: Statua [CMD] on October 03, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
I was thinking. Outlands is HL2RP survival. What if we took that and changed it so some other post apocalypse survival, based off something premade like terminator, or maybe based off our own story?

Yes, I do think that hl2rp is a bit dying.. I've had a few members personally ask me in steam why hl2rp was dead, and if CG was going to put up a new genre of RP server.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Monkey with a gun on October 03, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
cough Starship Troopers Roleplay cough

fuck yeah comic sans
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: tics on October 03, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: Monkey with a gun on October 03, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
cough Starship Troopers Roleplay cough

fuck yeah comic sans
Or we could come up with a unique idea for a military roleplay? (Although SSTRP would be easier, and we have some experienced players here. [Yankee, Burning, Me, etc.])
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Mr. Pettit on October 03, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
The Mars colony suggestion and an Epidemic server both look good to me. They both have room to stem off into something really great.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Khub on October 04, 2012, 04:43:19 AM
I would say it's pretty easy to get HL2RP populated nowadays. Even in European afternoon times when I get home from school, I often see the server at like 14 or 15 out of 40. Even if there's nothing going on - meaning no planned event, of course - people DO join. It's just that you are too lazy to get on and support us or you're in different timezone. I'd also say that the broken status bar has it's part on the server activity problem, as people obviously can't be bothered to check the server status via Steam > Servers window.
I believe that we'll get even better this weekend, and things will get even more better once RTLK finishes the planned updates and when he fixes the current bugs.

Back on topic; yes. I'd love to see any new serious roleplaying server in property of Catalyst Gaming, be it apocalypse or anything else.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 04, 2012, 04:55:50 AM
Terminator RP pls

I'd love a terminator RP server at CG, if it was to be ran right and with the right people it would be great, I'm really into terminator rp
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: raiden on October 04, 2012, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: Smt on October 04, 2012, 04:55:50 AM
Terminator RP pls

I'd love a terminator RP server at CG, if it was to be ran right and with the right people it would be great, I'm really into terminator rp
doesn't tnb still have a terminator rp and isn't it dead?
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 04, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
Imo tnb is dead cause if you werent in techcom, you weren cool. So if we made one id say lose tech com and make it like our outlands where you gotta either start your own group or find someone willing to let you in.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 04, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
Quote from: Raiden on October 04, 2012, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: Smt on October 04, 2012, 04:55:50 AM
Terminator RP pls

I'd love a terminator RP server at CG, if it was to be ran right and with the right people it would be great, I'm really into terminator rp
doesn't tnb still have a terminator rp and isn't it dead?

it's back up now, it's not exactly dead but it's passed the "best point" and a lot of things changed that I dislike and won't bother talking about here lol

Quote from: Statua [CMD] on October 04, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
Imo tnb is dead cause if you werent in techcom, you weren cool. So if we made one id say lose tech com and make it like our outlands where you gotta either start your own group or find someone willing to let you in.

i think if we did a TRP server here we could use tech-comm for events ubt not have them running around all the time, but we'd need some sort of "main" or "large" resistance outfit, it'd just have to not be as elitist (mainly ooc-wise) as TC is in tnb's TRP
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: raiden on October 04, 2012, 08:45:08 AM
why not have everyone come into the server as like a recruit in tech-comm or a private? That way as soon as you join, you have a massive chance of being in the action. We can have a training program set up if they were to start off as a recruit which would need to be conducted in game (this idea I literally thought off the top of my head ten seconds before I made this post).
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 04, 2012, 08:47:53 AM
because the focus of TRP shouldn't be on "getting into a resistance and shooting the drones", it should be "surviving against the drones", tech-com - at least in tnb's TRP - was heavily focused on ooc and ic elitism and going all out blazing against drones whenever the chance arose. Your idea could work I suppose, but I always found playerbased groups and surviving out alone outside of "the bunker" (where Tech-com stay, usually refered to a bunker eitherway) was way more fun than tech-com, although being in Charlie (the mechanical/computer/repairing type squad in tech-com) was pretty fun for the passive
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: LG-IM.Swagger on October 04, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
Apocalypse RP, js, no one has ever been able to do it properly.

STALKER RP?
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 04, 2012, 04:34:53 PM
Stalker RP pls no

go on tnb to find out why it's bad
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: LG-IM.Swagger on October 04, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: Smt on October 04, 2012, 04:34:53 PM
Stalker RP pls no

go on tnb to find out why it's bad

Well, I didn't even know they did an RP of Stalker it was just an idea.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 04, 2012, 05:40:59 PM
If we did "people join TRP and are recruits to TC", then it would be like starship troopers. I would rather join the server and do what I want to do. Not have to follow the orders of some TC member.

IOW, make a TRP with the same mechanics as outlands. Let players do what they want to do. If they wanna join a big group and get bossed around by some nimrod, let them. If they wanna run solo or start their own little group, let them. But dont get an official resistance group going as the other groups are gonna be squished and pushed out of the way.

Also, its war RP. Lets make guns somewhat accessible.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: kmp on October 05, 2012, 12:20:03 AM
Wait, wait, wait... because HL2RP doesn't have that many players because of school or w/e, you all want to replace it? wat
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Pielolz on October 05, 2012, 12:27:38 AM
Quote from: KillmePlz on October 05, 2012, 12:20:03 AM
Wait, wait, wait... because HL2RP doesn't have that many players because of school or w/e, you all want to replace it? wat



I concur. Just because I have projects n' shit to do, doesn't mean it's dead. It means people have LIVES.

shocking revelation, I know.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 05, 2012, 04:54:49 AM
not replace, have the TRP run along side, which may or may not work depending on if we get the players for it
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: SatN on October 05, 2012, 05:51:56 AM
Quote from: Raiden on October 04, 2012, 08:45:08 AM
why not have everyone come into the server as like a recruit in tech-comm or a private? That way as soon as you join, you have a massive chance of being in the action. We can have a training program set up if they were to start off as a recruit which would need to be conducted in game (this idea I literally thought off the top of my head ten seconds before I made this post).


Yes, precisely. One of the primary attractions of Starship Troopers Role-Play is it's 'auto-spawn' in as a Recruit in a military force. The action is guaranteed, for people wanting a more 'hot-zone' role-play. Starship Troopers RP' has many faults, ranging from canonical-logical issues to overall role-play. Terminator Role-Play at a community large enough to support it's player demands, such as CG, would be successful. As Raiden stated, having players start off as a Tech-Com Recruit, or even something related to SkyNet for more experienced role-players. The role-play theme options many options for custom groups and sub-factions.

And Smt (hi <3), TRP itself is an attractive theme, if we have a minimum number of players to partake in the role-play, then guaranteed the role-play itself would attract more.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 05, 2012, 06:55:29 AM
No Please no. Dont make it like starship troopers. I dont want to have to rely a other players for my rp all the time. I joined a SSTRP server awhile ago like 5 times when it was busy and there was nobody to help cause they were away or busy icly.

SST style will ultimately result in failure in the end. Not to mentiom techcom doesnt exactly recruit like the army. Theyre a little more exclusive.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: SatN on October 05, 2012, 07:56:29 AM
Oh, I didn't mean set out in any-way to Starship Trooper's Role-Play, I was just describing the similarities, advantages and disadvantages of possible similarities. Yes, Tech-Com's recruiting methods are somewhat unique, although this doesn't mean they didn't have a lineup, followers, something similar to refugees accompanying them, living with them. This refugee of sorts could take the unofficial name of a reservist?
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Dixon on October 05, 2012, 09:06:56 AM
Please no! Not star ship! I think apocalypse might stand out to most players maybe and what would Terminator RP really be?
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Dallas on October 05, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
HL2RP is just in a lull, this comes and goes, it will recover. I doubt the community has the playerbase to support HL2RP, OL, OCRP 2 -AND- Another server.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 05, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
Terminator RP would be fairly similar to the way Outlands is now, but following the story you see in Terminator: Salvation. Here's the differences IMO:

Combine -> Sky Net
Forest Mountains -> Nuclear Wasteland
Oppressed Refugees -> Nuclear Survivors
Pulse Weaponry -> Laser Weaponry (Rated in Watts)

Its pretty similar but yeah. I'd convert Ineu Pass for this.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: SatN on October 05, 2012, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: Statua [CMD] on October 05, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
Terminator RP would be fairly similar to the way Outlands is now, but following the story you see in Terminator: Salvation. Here's the differences IMO:

Combine -> Sky Net
Forest Mountains -> Nuclear Wasteland
Oppressed Refugees -> Nuclear Survivors
Pulse Weaponry -> Laser Weaponry (Rated in Watts)

Its pretty similar but yeah. I'd convert Ineu Pass for this.


Yeah, put simply. This could be quite successful, especially since most of the major components in making this idea reality are present.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 05, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
I love the current mechanics of our outlands. I just want to see a new story.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Sexy Frog on October 08, 2012, 12:10:37 AM
So in essence you all want to stick to what you know instead of something new. TRP is practically the exact same genre as HL2rp except with different characters.

Incident caused by humanity ---> Humanity fucked
War ---> Humanity crushed
Oppression ---> resistance group of straggling humans

What is HL2?

Incident caused by humanity ---> Humanity fucked
War ---> Humanity crushed
Oppression ---> resistance group of straggling humans

I think trying something off the grid is something worth trying. Something that makes us different from the hundreds of other RP communities out there if you are all really serious about a new server. How many Zombie based RP servers are there really? STALKER isn't exactly zombies I don't think (I may be wrong), there's one community that hosts "Post-Apocolyptic RP" which is basically kinda like a form of Zombie rp but zombies aren't a playable faction. I think thinking outside the box and venturing outside the comfort zone is a good thing now and then, trying a different genre. Because let's face it, with TRP and HL2rp there are really only two major factions to play with the exception of a few sub-factions which technically still co-inside with the major ones. But Epidemic has at least four major factions that are all vastly different.

What is Epidemic RP?

Incident maybe or maybe not caused by humanity depending on custom canon ---> Humanity fucked
Mass infection ---> Mass casualties and spark in the rise of zombies
Governmental collapse ---> Rise of factions for good or for worse
Depending on faction helping or fucking people over & surviving ---> interesting, unique RP, drama, action, passive, suspense, fear, etc

Not to mention that with Catalyst-Gaming's experienced RPing personnel, jump starting something like this would be a breeze because you don't have people in charge who RP like fourth graders and are tyrannical faggots. So once again, I think a change of pace is something that sounds good.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Pielolz on October 09, 2012, 12:00:28 AM
Warhammer 40k RP. Yes.

Think of it, you start as a Space Marine recruit (just a scout) Get recruited to a Full battle brother,and KICK ASS!
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Elions on October 09, 2012, 01:09:04 AM
Fantasy rp... I will speak of this idea in a more detailed manner tomorrow.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Yak on October 09, 2012, 05:15:19 AM
1950s RP with Mafias, lone sharks, petty criminals, policeman, heorin dealers and gangs.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Elions on October 09, 2012, 07:55:59 AM
Do lend me your ears, ladies and gentelmen... Because i'm going to try and sell this idea hard to you.

Fantasy RP is what, as you can probably guess already, would be considered D&D styled RP. Melee weapon intensive and with magic involved in the matter, it would be close to playing a multiplayer version of the old styled RPG's, with a few twists here and there of course.
There is an old idea from a forum RP that i believe (if you do get interested in this idea) could be re-purposed for Gmod RP, and there are player/weapon models out there for creating a better stylised RP experience.

The story, from what i can remember off the top of my head, goes as follows
Times are changing, dear adventurer... Machines are setting down in our cities, and 'progress' seems unstoppable... But the people's thirst for adventure, treasure and exploration continues to grow nonetheless. Tales from a far-away unexplored land tempt many to try their fortune. Mages that wish to explore the inner workings of the arcane, Warriors that wish to proove themselves worthy of glory and fortune, Thieves looking to find treasure worth more than a thousand lives, Hunters that simply wish to chalenge themselves and their marksmanship, the list of possible adventurers only grows as the tales of Lontai flow through the wind... And then there is you, dear adventurer. Will you try to tame this unknown wilderness? Will you go for personal glory and treasure? Will you attempt to help people survive? Or thrive in destroying the hopes of others? The choice is yours, my friend... Just remember, Lontai may be the place where you reach glory, or where you reach your doom.

To answer the obvious question. Instead of picking stuff like acrobatics and what not, i'd advise for people to change into picking "skills", to form classes so to speak. Stuff like picking an armor type, a weapon prefference, a personal trait, etc. These things would be able to change or even get stuff added in some limits to advance your character's story and abilities. And no this would not be PVP intensive.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: swag master spiderman on October 09, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
I think some WW2 RP would be fun, maybe in a nazi occupied town (yes, hl2rp) or somewhere with a few more battles.

Maybe even an RP based in Napoleon times or during the American revolution (ac3 rp) although I can see a bit of trouble with maps and models.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: BltElite on October 09, 2012, 02:03:03 PM
As somebody else mentioned earlier, the ideas you guys are coming up with is a 'hl2rp' with differing names for a faction or the wayabout humanity got 'fucked'.
Abliet interesting, not the very best way of injecting 'new' into the place.

You need something completely new, or maybe not full on new, but revamped, or so on. Think outside the box.

Though a WW2 RP does sound interesting :3
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Elions on October 09, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Blt on October 09, 2012, 02:03:03 PM

You need something completely new, or maybe not full on new, but revamped, or so on. Think outside the box.


Shameless plug, but my idea is pretty different from the other ones in that regard :3

WW2 RP sounds interesting but unfortunately it asks for a very linear kind of story, which can be difficult to accomplish
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 09, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
I'd just like to see something similar to Survival RP.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: The Mysterious Stranger on October 09, 2012, 05:49:53 PM
 Hey lads, hear of Terminator roleplay? (epic canadian "lads" right there eh?)

Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 09, 2012, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: STALKER on October 09, 2012, 05:49:53 PM
Hey lads, hear of Terminator roleplay? (epic canadian "lads" right there eh?)
Yeah there's a big discussion on the past couple pages about it lol. I would like to try it out in a survival RP style.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Sexy Frog on October 09, 2012, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: STALKER on October 09, 2012, 05:49:53 PM
Hey lads, hear of Terminator roleplay? (epic canadian "lads" right there eh?)

And as stated in the earlier discussion by me, it's the exact same thing as Half Life 2 RP except with with different characters. Exact same concept, exact same struggle, exact same kind of RP.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Elions on October 09, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Guys. Guys guys guys. I just had. An idea :V

Deus Ex RP.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Lone Wanderer on October 09, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Terminator RP, that seems like a great ide-No. How about we do something original, something someone else doesn't have. I don't really keep up on what TnB does now, but I'm gathering from this thread that their TRP is dead or rarely populated. Still, why do it? Like Frog said, it really doesn't stray to far from the HL2RP storyline in it's themes.

*HL2RP Antagonists: Almost Robotic Army of Supersoldiers/alien synths slowly killing off humanity.
TRP Antagonists: Actual Robotic army killing off humanity.

*HL2RP Protagonists: Resistance members trying to overthrow the Union.
TRP Protagonists: Humans trying to figure out how to destory the robots.

*HL2RP Average-Joe: The poor citizen, living a terrible life in a run down hole, where death follows them everywhere.
TRP Average-Joe: The poor refugee, living a terrible life in a run down hole, where death follows them everywhere.

*HL2RP Setting: Crippled version of Earth, with no real human government, economy or society.
TRP Setting: Crippled version of Earth, with no real human government, economy or society.


See where I'm going with this? You could argue there are some variances, and you'd be right, there are. The storylines aren't exactly the same, and both offer different roleplaying options and characters to develop. But the underlying themes are similar. Looking at what CG currently has to offer, there's a City-Life RP server (OCRP), a Post-apocalyptic society server (HL2RP;City), a post-apocalyptic survival server (HL2RP;Outlands), and a Seafarring roleplay server (HRP). Now, what's something that's different, something that adds a new type of roleplay to CG? Well, here's a few types, most of them already suggested, of what could be implemented that does so:

-Epidemic RP: While I personally love this suggestion a lot, and would enjoy it even more so, it doesn't really stray to far from that idea of a post-apocalyptic roleplay. Sure, the roleplay you'd participate in would be different from that of HL2RP, but the theme behind it wouldn't. Characters would develop with the same problems and struggles of those who faced the rule and suffering delivered from the Union's hand. The main difference would be that instead of fleeing from Overwatch and beating back hordes of antlions, you're running from the local crazed lunatics and opening fire upon hordes of infected humans. I'm not saying this idea is bad at all, in fact, I think it'd be an okay server to add. It does differ enough from HL2RP to have success, and I believe I'm safe in saying that a serious ZombieRP server would attract more players than a TerminatorRP server (pleasedonthurtmeTRPloversokaythankyou).

-SpaceRP: Now, this one I think could go a lot of different ways. SpaceRP can be interpreted differently, depending on the enviornment, planet, conditions, other lifeforms, stage in space exploration, etc. A server of this nature would give a lot of room for development. You could choose to have the time period as such that humanity has highly advanced technology, featuring advanced stellar warships, futuristic technology, and the like. Or, you could have them as some of the first space pioneers, potentially 50 years into the future. Likewise to this diversity, the settlers could have built on a rocky, barren planet, with no other life forms whatsoever, Or, they could be faced with the same struggles as Columbus and his men within the depths of a jungle planet, fighting off the native alien populace. I'm not going to go to much more in depth, but you can imagine how far you could go with a Sci-Fi roleplay server, one where humanity's full creativity and resources aren't limited by powers such as the Union (IE: HL2RP).

-FantasyRP:  Deep down, everyone loves their fantasy. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, you know you like it. All the magic, crossing of blades in epic battles, and the beautiful elves all around, you can't get enough of it. But think about it, have you ever really thought about putting yourself in those shoes? Taking on the role of your own, individual character in the conflicted fantasy world? A magic wielding man, holding great power and conjuring the greatest of potions, or a great knight, combating the strongest of monsters in the depths of the local swamp. There's quite a bit you can do, and it does bring out the imagination of people, allowing them to present more ideas to the community for development of the server's story and progression. And quite honestly, fantasy is a pretty fun subject to be dealing with (at least from my point of view). Even if the fantasy side of things doesn't appeal to you, you can still use the medival aspect of it to create an amazing RP enviornment. I've yet to see a MedivalRP server out there, but I do think it'd be a great thing to partake in, regardless if there is magic or not.

-ArmyRP: I gotta say, people love their militaryRP here. CCA, OTA, making groups with military ranks and the like. I'm not one to judge in anyway, I find it enjoyable myself. There's no doub that there's a playerbase out there for it, I just think it might be a bit difficult to attract them. You've got people trying out other GMOD servers with it, you've got people doing DoD:S Realism, and other things as well. I think it'd also get old after awhile, once you've completed all the drills, trainings, done some missions, etc. Not as much room to grow as some other options. But I'm sure someone out there could prove me wrong in that aspect.


I'm sure there's plenty more roleplaying options out there, and I'm sure some of you could argue against some points I made in my post. Those are just some ideas and my brief opinions and some of the suggestions made, and why they're good or why they aren't. Ultimately, it's up to the owners (at least I think 8)) who make the choices regarding this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Rofl said they had something coming eventually (/me crosses fingers and hopes he wasn't retarded). I just hope this helps to get some people's minds rolling and the like.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 09, 2012, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: Sexy Frog on October 09, 2012, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: STALKER on October 09, 2012, 05:49:53 PM
Hey lads, hear of Terminator roleplay? (epic canadian "lads" right there eh?)

And as stated in the earlier discussion by me, it's the exact same thing as Half Life 2 RP except with with different characters. Exact same concept, exact same struggle, exact same kind of RP.

Not necessairly. In HL2 humans were forced into slavery, oppression, and brainwashing. In Terminator humans were just plain salughtered or captured, never to be seen again. This can make for a different RP atmosphere. In HL2RP Outlands, the environment is similar to the way it was before the war, just less humans and a lot of destroyed towns. AFAIK, no large animals either. In TRP, its a barren wasteland.

Another MAJOR aspect is the land itself. In HL2, the cities are inhabited and run by the combine. All the technology, parts, food, supplies, etc in the city have either been seized or reused. In Terminator, a lot of this stuff is still available to scavenge. That means vehicles, food, radios, etc are a LOT easier to find.

Something else in TRP that makes it better the HL2RP Outlands is the groups. In HL2RP Outlands, most of the resistance groups are fighting for a single goal, to overthrow the combine and restore order. In TRP, more groups would be focused on survival and hiding from T's and HK's. Some might provide mechanical support while others scavenge food. Some might specialize in defense and reconnaissance. Maybe theres some who provide medical aid and services. Yes a lot of these can be done in outlands, however the IC mindset in outlands is "overthrow the combine" where the IC mindset in TRP is "run for your fucking lives!"

So what does this all mean? There's a LOT more potential in TRP then HL2RP Outlands. Backstories are also a lot more diverse then "I was living a normal day, I got rounded up. I lived in the city. I escaped the city." Instead, they can be anywhere from "We traveled from a mexican farm town" or "We were visiting the northern mountains." or "We hid in a nuclear shelter my crazy grandfather built."

Basically, I think TRP would be more successful then HL2RP Outlands.

Quote from: Lone Wanderer on October 09, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Terminator RP, that seems like a great ide-No. How about we do something original, something someone else doesn't have.

Yes I read your whole post. But it's missing the point I'm trying to get across. HL2RP Outlands is great. Theres good RP, good conflicts, good everything. The only problem I myself see is the story is getting boring and repetative. Keep the style of RP, keep the mechanics, change the story to let people try on a new shirt if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Elions on October 09, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Statua [CMD] on October 09, 2012, 09:33:32 PM
The only problem I myself see is the story is getting boring and repetative. Keep the style of RP, keep the mechanics, change the story to let people try on a new shirt if you know what I mean.

I'm sorry but... How is changing "overthrow the combine" to "Defeat the evil machines" fixing anything? At best you're eliminating the idea that there's organized cities where both the combine and humans coexist in a way.

As much as i like the terminator franchise, this doesn't really change much except the bad guy and how common some stuff is, other than that, it's the same "Run from bad guy, plan to destroy him/her/it somehow".

Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Sexy Frog on October 09, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
Quote from: Lone Wanderer on October 09, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
-Epidemic RP: While I personally love this suggestion a lot, and would enjoy it even more so, it doesn't really stray to far from that idea of a post-apocalyptic roleplay. Sure, the roleplay you'd participate in would be different from that of HL2RP, but the theme behind it wouldn't. Characters would develop with the same problems and struggles of those who faced the rule and suffering delivered from the Union's hand. The main difference would be that instead of fleeing from Overwatch and beating back hordes of antlions, you're running from the local crazed lunatics and opening fire upon hordes of infected humans. I'm not saying this idea is bad at all, in fact, I think it'd be an okay server to add. It does differ enough from HL2RP to have success, and I believe I'm safe in saying that a serious ZombieRP server would attract more players than a TerminatorRP server (pleasedonthurtmeTRPloversokaythankyou).

-SpaceRP: Now, this one I think could go a lot of different ways. SpaceRP can be interpreted differently, depending on the enviornment, planet, conditions, other lifeforms, stage in space exploration, etc. A server of this nature would give a lot of room for development. You could choose to have the time period as such that humanity has highly advanced technology, featuring advanced stellar warships, futuristic technology, and the like. Or, you could have them as some of the first space pioneers, potentially 50 years into the future. Likewise to this diversity, the settlers could have built on a rocky, barren planet, with no other life forms whatsoever, Or, they could be faced with the same struggles as Columbus and his men within the depths of a jungle planet, fighting off the native alien populace. I'm not going to go to much more in depth, but you can imagine how far you could go with a Sci-Fi roleplay server, one where humanity's full creativity and resources aren't limited by powers such as the Union (IE: HL2RP).

-FantasyRP:  Deep down, everyone loves their fantasy. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, you know you like it. All the magic, crossing of blades in epic battles, and the beautiful elves all around, you can't get enough of it. But think about it, have you ever really thought about putting yourself in those shoes? Taking on the role of your own, individual character in the conflicted fantasy world? A magic wielding man, holding great power and conjuring the greatest of potions, or a great knight, combating the strongest of monsters in the depths of the local swamp. There's quite a bit you can do, and it does bring out the imagination of people, allowing them to present more ideas to the community for development of the server's story and progression. And quite honestly, fantasy is a pretty fun subject to be dealing with (at least from my point of view). Even if the fantasy side of things doesn't appeal to you, you can still use the medival aspect of it to create an amazing RP enviornment. I've yet to see a MedivalRP server out there, but I do think it'd be a great thing to partake in, regardless if there is magic or not.

-ArmyRP: I gotta say, people love their militaryRP here. CCA, OTA, making groups with military ranks and the like. I'm not one to judge in anyway, I find it enjoyable myself. There's no doub that there's a playerbase out there for it, I just think it might be a bit difficult to attract them. You've got people trying out other GMOD servers with it, you've got people doing DoD:S Realism, and other things as well. I think it'd also get old after awhile, once you've completed all the drills, trainings, done some missions, etc. Not as much room to grow as some other options. But I'm sure someone out there could prove me wrong in that aspect.

I see what you mean with these and without trying to be too biased I will give my analysis starting from the bottom up.

-ArmyRP: Seen it, seen it, seen it. I won't deny that ArmyRP has it's perks but overall the roleplay to too dependent on other people. In Army rp you are automatically indoctrinated into the armed forced as default as a recruit or whatever which reminds me eerily of Star Ship Troopers RP. And as I recall correctly, someone even mentioned it. It's dependent on other people and you are basically being ordered around by fuck-tards. I've tried Armyrp on Dark Fraction and it wasn't the best experience in the world. Not to say that that experience with that one community will consume my entire opinion of the game mode over all as I'm sure the quality varies, but I don't find it all that appealing.

-FantasyRP: To be honest, I like the sound of it but the way it's portrayed seems way too broad. Fantasy has such a vast spectrum of things that packing all that in with everything would just clash together, would it not? I mean, if we say fantasy, I can have Doctor Who,  Lord of the Rings, Teletubbies and World of Warcraft all in the same server and it'd just wind up being a cluster fuck of ideas. People definition of 'fantasy' various from person to person. But if fantasy RP is strictly medieval it's still confusing but more plausible I suppose. But stripping all that aside, the custom content needed for this would be beyond human conception! Not to mention that actual developing of the stuff needed would be insane. Moving on...

-SpaceRP: Now here is a really interesting one. I love the concept of space travel as much as the next guy, however it falls along the lines of FantasyRP. The custom content and downloads would be pretty hefty at best and if you are actually talking about constructing space ships, it's basically be like spacebuild but with RP capabilities. The good thing about SpaceRP in theory is that it can allow a broad spectrum of crap and factions and it would all still make sense. You can have 31284139041809 different races with different abilities and still have it believable and playable. In a sense, I'd like to compare it to SPORE. It would be like that, RP based throughout the galaxy with different races on different levels of sentience. If I wanted I could have a character that is tribal, or have a character that is overly religious, have a character that is extremely advanced and intelligent, have an animalistic character and much more. Again, we would be limited to the models offered for download but I've learned about suspension of disbelief. Just because it isn't exactly what it is, doesn't mean you can't ignore the fact and pretend.

-EpidemicRP: Very valid points with this one, although ERP is my top choice I will try to keep myself impartial for this. It's a good gamemode as well as idea, albeit mostly ripped off from L4D but so are most of the RP game modes. Comprising of 4 major factions it's a lot like Outlands flung into City in a sense. City landscape but with the Outlands sense of survival and action. I admit, it does require a lot of downloads because of the models and props used as well as the overall content of the Epidemic script. Last I saw, around 700-ish MB in total. Though all in all, I can't name any other game modes in GMODrp that you are actually able to play as the zombies and hunt down humans when able as well as play the humans for the thrill of survival and the Scarlet Dawn to mug and rob and live the life of a bandit, the entire time giving you aspects of every point of view. I won't deny that it's a similar survival theme to HL2rp in the sense of Outlands but it has good potential.

Those are just my thoughts anyways. I tried to remain as unbiased as I could, but I think maybe some favoritism crept into some of those. I dunno.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Lone Wanderer on October 10, 2012, 12:00:24 AM
@Statua:

I completely understand what you're saying. I'm not saying the idea is bad, I'm just saying I'd like to stray away from that kind of story. I do like Outlands a lot, and I'm sure I'd enjoy TRP if I got into it. But, I'd really like to try on a new outfit entirely. Even though Terminator does offer different RP, and I'm sure it'd attract some players, I think doing something more original and different in the community will attract some more players rather than simply spread out the people who currently are interested in servers like City and the Outlands.


@Frog:

I agree with a lot o the points you made, obviously. However, when I wrote about FantasyRP, I didn't really intend it to come across as being that broad. I meant that there were a lot of different opportunities and paths that you could take in that kind of roleplay or for the over all theme for the server. For example, there could be a typical fantasy war theme, with different races combating against eachother. You could choose to have a more odd alignment, with a human-orc coalition combating the elves. You could even have a peaceful approach to everything, with a more neutral orientation to everything with a few baddies out there. There's so many different races, settings, themes, conflicts, objects, skills, etc that could be implemented. Aside from SpaceRP, I think that this is one of the most open roleplay settings that could be implemented.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 10, 2012, 01:33:12 AM
why are some of you guys suggesting we need something new and original and then bigging up epidemic RP as our "new and original" RP idea

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Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: kmp on October 10, 2012, 01:55:56 AM
You do know that the community that had Epicdemic, including the creator (rick dark, also made tacoscript), died around about 1-3 months after they began? Does that not show something? Sure, the script sounds cool, but would you really play it constantly?

HL2RP is fine, it's been around for a while with CG. You all think that replacing it will solve our player problem, it won't. We've hit a bump, which we shall come through with.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Statua on October 10, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
TBH all I really want is for SOMEONE (Karma) to fix Outlands and restore the CSS, EP2, and Weight Tool on the server. Would be nice to try on a new pair of shoes (ie. TRP story with outlands style/mechanics) but there's still a lot of stuff that's possible on Outlands.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: That Guy in a Box on October 21, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
*A mysterious man, one of a familiar stench of the past comes into the discussion* "'Sup foo's?"
But more on topic if we wanted something 'original' I have an idea.

MODERN REVOLUTION RP (It's just an idea, don't judge)
Basically it's four years into the future, taking place in NYC. The west side of the country is engulfed in a Civil-War, the east within a high tension point. Although almost all of the soldiers are fighting out west, the government has relied on police forces to have a heavy presence all around the city, and when the (ever so often) times come, to fight the U.S.A's fight in absence for the military. Small-time, allied rebel groups pop up in the most anarchistic, poor, un-controlled areas of the city. Often found having small firefights with the local police and SWAT, or maybe going on small time bombings or heists.

Well Boxy, how the hell is this different then the other ideas? And why are you so retarded?

Well, average Joe of CG, I'm not retarded, and I'm going to compare the settings of ideas and current RPs.
Quote from: Lone Wanderer on October 09, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
*HL2RP Antagonists: Almost Robotic Army of Supersoldiers/alien synths slowly killing off humanity.
TRP Antagonists: Actual Robotic army killing off humanity.

*HL2RP Protagonists: Resistance members trying to overthrow the Union.
TRP Protagonists: Humans trying to figure out how to destory the robots.

*HL2RP Average-Joe: The poor citizen, living a terrible life in a run down hole, where death follows them everywhere.
TRP Average-Joe: The poor refugee, living a terrible life in a run down hole, where death follows them everywhere.

*HL2RP Setting: Crippled version of Earth, with no real human government, economy or society.
TRP Setting: Crippled version of Earth, with no real human government, economy or society.


MR-RP (Modern Revolution RP) setting: Weakened version of the U.S, though Humanity is still holding it out. Taking place, mainly, in NYC.
MR-RP Antagonists: Local Police forces and (Event only) U.S Marines/Soldiers/Other things to fuck us up.
MR-RP Protagonists: Small-time rebels armed with half-assed weapons trying to free the city.
MR-RP Average Joe: A poor U.S Citizen, living in the confines of the Government's control of the City. Either supporting the U.S, or the Rebels.

As you can see, the main idea of it differentiates from the other ideas people have come up with.

No, to all those people out there like 'Oh noes, I'mma lose mah cee pee. That can't happen. DON'T REPLACE HL2RP!!!'
We're not talking to replace it, just come up with something fresh. HL2RP is boring as fuck, and you know it.?
Commence the hatred replies.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: Pielolz on October 21, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
All of your ideas are dumb.

They are done too much, and too poorly. We would just be *goin with the flow*
How about W40k RP? One that has never been done properly, if we brush the errant turds off of the otherwise delicous apple pie of W40k RP, we have the best RP server ever. All other servers use antlions for Tyranids and combine for orks, we have awesome coders that can create (or reskin and resound) NPCs to look like the kick ass ones from W40k. With a custom map with input from the w40k fags, we can create an awesome action filled RP.

yay, nay?
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: swag master spiderman on October 21, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
All easier said than done, you want models and sounds as well as a custom map, they're not just freely available, and I doubt we'll get any made.
Title: Re: We need a new Serious RP server!
Post by: smt on October 21, 2012, 03:28:00 PM
Late here but your comparisons between hl2rp and trp are incredibly incorrect and i advise you to go play a proper TRP server for a few months
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