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Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Archive => HL2RP Development[ARCHIVE] => Accepted PK Appeals => Topic started by: vFear? on September 04, 2011, 11:32:02 PM
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Steam Name: fear
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:20505572
Character Name: Spectre
Admin who issued PK: RTLK
Reason for Un-PK:
The entire thing was bullshit. Within 10 minutes of me getting on, RTLK joins and goes straight on his OW, getting together a team and going straight for the labs where I was at the time. Before I can do any RP, they're right at the front door. I attempt to negotiate a S2M agreement in OOC since killing Spectre would kill a lot of RP that is due to occur but RTLK quickly answers with something along the lines of "No. You should not have got a rogue in the first place." He also stated that "We are here only to PK Spectre, the refugees will be fine."
The OTA team opens the door, we throw a grenade out. We blow up two of them the first time - which RTLK respawns, we are quickly flagged for 'Failnade', and they go to breach again. We throw out another Grenade, get all four of them this time, RTLK respawns them all and, again, we are flagged for 'Failnading'. Now that we are out of grenades, his OTA team enters, S2K's all the refugees except a scientist and this one refugee - disregarding his previous statement - and bans Spectre, even though I was S2M'ing anyway. The only person to not S2K was "Tyreal, Archangel of Justice.", who appears to be the only OTA on at the time that can OTA RP at all.
We had no time to react, ten dollars says I was seen on the Scoreboard so they quickly assembled on my last known position from a situation that was VOIDED due to derping on the OTA's part. They also insisted our 'door' was prop-block when it was laid down using the Door tool AND CCA + OTA can open it using the action key, rendering it not prop block to the OTA.
I have a few witnesses that can agree it's bullshit, I will have them post in here. They are (In Steam Friends name):
Darkshifter98
Monkey with a Gun
Thor, God of Thunder
Tyreal, Archangel of Justice
PFC [508th_PIR]Jacknife
If this thread is locked and denied before even any discussion, debate and/or revision from the one above RTLK who authorised the rogue in the first place - Regardless, RTLK insisting that I should not have it anyway - I'm gone. I enjoy to RP at CG except you're making it hard on me here.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
Oh, and your story is incorrect as the only person I respawned was myself and I never returned when I was killed with the real nade (the first one which killed someone was an accidental nade by an OTA.)
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+ Support.
This realy isn't right. The situation should be voided and Spetre returned.
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I was one of the witnesses and personally, this was BS.
We had two vorts (Me and Resist) readying a charged vortessence attack. They burst in and give us no time to react and S2K us all, except for the people that survived that fear listed. If we do this again, I want a S2M fight allowing us all to /me and all that jazz.
Thats my two cents and I hope this is fixed as, again, this was BS.
I +Support Spectre's return.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
When-ever someone rings, my wireless internet cuts. I play on my laptop from my room, the modem being in the dining room. It turned out to be my friend from school informing me my subject selections for next year were due the next day, so I had to go do them. Besides, I had authorisation from the top on both visits and to get that kind of warrant, I'd need a damn good reason.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
When-ever someone rings, my wireless internet cuts. I play on my laptop from my room, the modem being in the dining room. It turned out to be my friend from school informing me my subject selections for next year were due the next day, so I had to go do them. Besides, I had authorisation from the top on both visits and to get that kind of warrant, I'd need a damn good reason.
Unfortunately this is a lie as the fact of you disconnecting was deliberate and not a connection drop. And the only times was when the CCA was coming for you.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
I can say that fear's internet gets cut off when someone calls his house. That's why the last time he was in the city he DC'd in the middle of it.
Also with this event, I only followed my other OTA around on a patrol until Karma showed up and we decided to hunt spectre. I have no idea what was going on with all the grenades, but I have to say this was kinda fail. WE just walked in and S2K'd people and walked out. I was hoping we'd do better RP than what we did. I want to void this derp of an event and un-PK spectre.
Support +
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
When-ever someone rings, my wireless internet cuts. I play on my laptop from my room, the modem being in the dining room. It turned out to be my friend from school informing me my subject selections for next year were due the next day, so I had to go do them. Besides, I had authorisation from the top on both visits and to get that kind of warrant, I'd need a damn good reason.
Unfortunately this is a lie as the fact of you disconnecting was deliberate and not a connection drop. And the only times was when the CCA was coming for you.
And how do you know? Are your spidey-senses tingling? You might want a bit of evidence to back up that statement as I am not lieing.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
When-ever someone rings, my wireless internet cuts. I play on my laptop from my room, the modem being in the dining room. It turned out to be my friend from school informing me my subject selections for next year were due the next day, so I had to go do them. Besides, I had authorisation from the top on both visits and to get that kind of warrant, I'd need a damn good reason.
Unfortunately this is a lie as the fact of you disconnecting was deliberate and not a connection drop. And the only times was when the CCA was coming for you.
And how do you know? Are your spidey-senses tingling? You might want a bit of evidence to back up that statement as I am not lieing.
Connections dropping have a different disconnect message. The time that I refer to (your so called last time in the city) you "Disconnected by User" right as we were getting a group to go after you.
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You should have stayed PKed when you were in the first place. Back when you were jumping from the city to the outlands (which in and of itself is fail) anytime anyone would be close to getting near you or the slight chance you would be killed you would leave the server, thus avoiding the RP.
When-ever someone rings, my wireless internet cuts. I play on my laptop from my room, the modem being in the dining room. It turned out to be my friend from school informing me my subject selections for next year were due the next day, so I had to go do them. Besides, I had authorisation from the top on both visits and to get that kind of warrant, I'd need a damn good reason.
Unfortunately this is a lie as the fact of you disconnecting was deliberate and not a connection drop. And the only times was when the CCA was coming for you.
And how do you know? Are your spidey-senses tingling? You might want a bit of evidence to back up that statement as I am not lieing.
Connections dropping have a different disconnect message. The time that I refer to (your so called last time in the city) you "Disconnected by User" right as we were getting a group to go after you.
Garry's Mod can not detect if my internet dropped or what, I timed out after the 40 seconds which posts 'Disconnect by User'. Besides, I was already out of the City IC'ly by the time you got your team together, taking the IC route out near the Fat Negordians or what-ever it is, the gate. If you IC'ly get it open and go through, it leads to the sewers and, thus, to the Outlands. Thus, you still remain without your evidence. Regardless, that is not the issue at hand, you're changing it to other issues, please focus, RTLK.
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I agree the situation should be voided because RTLK Did Rush it on him and they killed EVERYONE Nearly left some people + I got proof. The 2nd nade killed all of them..** Crystal Red takes the nade
** Crystal Red readys it ** Crystal Red slides a grenade under with the pin pulled
And Spectre says all 4 died and they RTLK Says FailNade and then continues after we killed all... Logs of teleporting back.
UU.OTA.ARCHER-3.24613 has gone to UU.OTA.STORM(4-1).30818's location.
And Respawning.
UU.OTA.STORM(4-0).31391 has respawned UU.OTA.STORM(4-0).31391!
UU.OTA.ARCHER-3.24613 has respawned UU.OTA.ARCHER-3.24613!
So WTF? I +Support for Spectre Back. Spectre Also Saw All four biosignals lost..
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I'm gonna go ahead and say +support
Ok... i know about the S2K rule and how bad it is in my opinion, but when it comes to rping a raid on a place that was agreed with Roflwaffle to not get raided... we have a problem. I was confidential about the raid at first when the agreement was confirmed already, but the 90% of the server on that particular moment turned into an OCRP raid. Here's what happened...
Karma and the OTA came across the bridge to my lab, well his data chip was offline and so was his mask and gear but that's not Karma's fault... but just something i was supposed to tell you before which i didn't. Also we made an agreement to void the lab... and the other people around them including my pet headcrab. As we icly knew both the sounds and the camera feed that the OTA were about to raid us... we got ready for it. They had start to throw grenades under a ICLY SEALED DOOR... again, forgot to tell them about what it really is ICLY, so it is not Karma's fault. 1 grenade hit about 3 people and got them clean. I knew just about then that this raid was going to be a shitstorm. After the first grenade came the 2nd... it failed and as a result killed one OTA unit... As of icly circumstances... Crystal then threw a grenade under the door because OTA somehow was able to... We killed 3 units... or 4. Karma then RESPAWNS THEM AND BRINGS THEM BACK... Why!? As of the raid... they told me to open the door, i did so. What happened after that... NO RP, NO WARNING, NOTHING BUT SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT AND EVERYONE INSTANTLY GETS SHOT. I don't know if it was my fault or not... but he told me to remove the door immediately. Lots of people complained about the raid... it was a nightmare. As a result... 2 seconds after the Spectre was killed. He was only online for about 10 minutes and gets a very disappointing surprise.
Karma... i would like to say thank you for at least listening to me and cooperating with the agreement about the lab, but if i was the Spectre i would definitively do something about it. Imagine if a bunch of rebels were raiding the City Administrator and they rushed in with no RP, shot the OTA down, and killed the City Administrator and pked him after 2 seconds... and his CA was only online with a total of 2 hours after created. Give him a second chance and we can re-do this... this was a big mis-understanding.
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It really annoys me when someone who has the skill to RP with such a delicate thing correctly, and spends the time building a character that has just the unlimited potential to raise the level of role-play on the servers, contributes to events, gives everyone something to do, and provides something unique to players to role-play with, get's powergamed / metagamed the shit out of.
Sure, I know the OTA are going to do everything they can to stop him, but doesn't mean that YOU yourself, IRL should want to, People develop a grudge against people when ICLY they do something, like what the fuck, take the dicks out of your ass, think about the RP for once, it's not real life, so just let Show no fear help the level of role-play.
+ Support
Plus, RTLK, One aspect I fucking despise about you is the fact you don't talk things through, you just simply go " Oh lol k he dead? k ban im rite, errey 1 else wong. "
Just cool off dewd, talk things through, and you're fine <3
Good day.
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In my opinion, there should be no "re-do" of the event, I can ensure you it will result in more shit-storms. Best off just to avoid direct contact inbetween OTA and Spectre for a while, keeping it to the odd sniper or so, simply so Spectre can promote passive and the such. Every time I am on Spectre I am immersed in Passive RP except in events like this, Spectre seems to promote RP within the outland players. Sure, not saying OTA cant patrol for him, but avoid direct contact such as today, for example.
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I would like to Support Spectre's return. I believe it creates a web of intrigue to have a Rogue CCA member. I don't think he would work up to this far without Acceptance of the possibility of death. He would not have posed an Unban Request if he did not believe it was unjust.
I also don't believe that he would Disconnect to avoid a Death. RoflWaffle would not have allowed this if he did not trust Fear to do right by his decision. Though, The possibility of death may come at any time. That time is not now.
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When I started becoming slightly more active on Outlands again, we raided the lab once, but decided it was fail and voided it completey, and Rory and I made a pact that we don't raid the lab.
Also, Spectre and I are planning on having a confrontation, since 040 wants his blood. TBH RTLK, you sound quick to PK him just because you didn't like that he's gone rogue.
Spectre needs to come back.
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If this is referring to a time when the snipers were pinning down the lab, then the units should be flagged insuboardinate due to my command to flag down when I was on OTA. And if so was this patrol 3 hours after the one before?
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Well well well, one part of my bidding was complete. But no dead evie dua?
You realise that this entire thing was done because you went rouge and the entire OTA was after your ass. IMO you shouldn't have gone rouge in the first place seeing you were a 01 but hey rofl makes the rules. What i see now is you Q_Qing not accepting the fact that any time 501 died it would be a PK because of the fact he went rouge. And the labs? Rofl broke the pact yesterday.
You got what you wanted, you went rouge, you got shot. You died. You got Pked. Thats how it plays out. Its no second chances.
Oh and your friends going "lol +Support bring him back" Dont understand that. They also dont see that RTLK makes the final decision on this.
Good day,
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You realise that this entire thing was done because you went rouge and the entire OTA was after your ass.
You got what you wanted, you went rouge, you got shot. You died. You got Pked. Thats how it plays out. Its no second chances.
I really don't think that is true regarding about the OTA hunting him down, the OTA have better things to worry about than one rogue unit loose in the Outlands, so i put front FAIL RP.
I'm not +supporting because I'm not entirely sure.
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RTLK, I am tired of your favoritism bullshit, and the fact that ignore everyone that isn't one of your best friends.
Either way, + SUPPORT
I loved Spectre, he added great RP, and knew very well how to start RP. If he is gone, people WILL start disconnecting from the server.
But knowing you, RTLK, noone can get in your way, so Spectre is probably going to be banned anyways.
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In my opinion, there should be no "re-do" of the event, I can ensure you it will result in more shit-storms. Best off just to avoid direct contact inbetween OTA and Spectre for a while, keeping it to the odd sniper or so, simply so Spectre can promote passive and the such. Every time I am on Spectre I am immersed in Passive RP except in events like this, Spectre seems to promote RP within the outland players. Sure, not saying OTA cant patrol for him, but avoid direct contact such as today, for example.
You asked to be a spectre... don't expect the OTA to not be all over your ass... If i were you, take your mask and maybe destroy the Data chip, then destroy the mask and maybe use the barney model. Either that or you should probably just get out of y lab because i want to RP...
What i mean is if we were gonna raid i don't want everyone dieing... Because it wasn't the Spectre that ruined the whole operation, it was the fail raid that ruined it all.
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Well well well, one part of my bidding was complete. But no dead evie dua?
You realise that this entire thing was done because you went rouge and the entire OTA was after your ass. IMO you shouldn't have gone rouge in the first place seeing you were a 01 but hey rofl makes the rules. What i see now is you Q_Qing not accepting the fact that any time 501 died it would be a PK because of the fact he went rouge. And the labs? Rofl broke the pact yesterday.
You got what you wanted, you went rouge, you got shot. You died. You got Pked. Thats how it plays out. Its no second chances.
Oh and your friends going "lol +Support bring him back" Dont understand that. They also dont see that RTLK makes the final decision on this.
Good day,
You weren't involved in the raid that took place though... it just wasn't fair.
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I have to +support this, due to the fact, from what is in here, this was complete bullshit. Plus, having Evie see 501 in outlands will be.... interesting...
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Exactly. fear and I were planning on a confrontation if we got auths. Plus, Spectre could see Evie. There's 2 great RP moments that are destroyed.
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I've never seen shownofear's character in action on the server, but I've only heard good things about the level of roleplay. The raid seems to have been metagamed/powergamed on a massive scale. RTLK may be "Owner without the Owner title," but that shouldn't mean he gets to break the fundamental rules of the server.
+support for Spectre's unPK.
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Alright, i'll explain what i saw when i joined the server, i connected to the server and hopped onto Angela the headcrab, planning to do some fun rp with Albert and others.
3 Minutes after i had joined the server i found myself in the clusterfuck that was this "Raid" and i use the term raid weakly, what you called a raid seemed more like a reason for OTA to walk in and S2K 90% of the server population giving nobody any time to react, and i would be okay with that if it was a suprise raid, but it was not in the slightest a suprise.
Anybody who had even a hope of deffending themselfs was not even given the chance, the vortigaunts who were charging their vortessence were
immediately killed in the 1 secound the door was open, the grenades we had were not able to be used due to the fact that in the time it takes to rp pulling the pin out of the grenade and throwing it everybody was already dead.
I think i'll just leave at that and try not to mention the WRAITH(s) magical stealth boys and OTA being online for hours at a time, so for now i will leave a giant +support for the PK appeal of Spectre due to the large failure of the "raid".
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I left right before this happened, but knowing OTA, some fair game rules, and the lab. I am certain this should be an unPk.
+SUPPORT
The main thing I see here, is OTA rushed on their chars, and attacked the labs, I would like to know if they ever bothered doing anything else, or how they knew Spectre was inside.
The main door to the labs is completly sealed off, so no grenades should have gone through, in or out. Since some went in, some went out.
The people who were killed by the frist few grenades, were not quickly respawned like OTA was, over and over.
When Doc was told to open the door, he put all of his trust in that OTA team that a fair fire fight would take place, and you let him, and everyone in the labs down, including poor Spectre.
This raid should be voided, it shouldn't get a Re-do, and Spectre should be returned to his char.
With nearly all comments being a support, this should turn out for Spectre. If it doesn't, it will continue to become a debatable topic, of 90% against 10%.
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Due to RTLK's leave, it appears the fate of Spectre is in the hands of the HL2RP Senior Administration members and RoflWaffle.
It's unfortunate RTLK had to leave regardless, everyone can improve.
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Don't lie, he was being a cunt. Yeah, I said it.
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Wait whut? Where is RTLK going and for how long?
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After reviewing the situation, I'd have to give my support in favor of Spectre. As I'm still a HL2RP SA and will resume activity on weekends once I get my PC back, I will accept this if given permission.
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Was unPKed already as not a single person denied that what happened was a clusterfuck.
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Close the gates, lock it up... It's a wrap.
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As the character was unPK'd... moving to accepted.