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Half-Life 2 Roleplay => Topic started by: Klashy on March 03, 2012, 04:38:18 PM
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
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This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
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This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
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HOLY FUCK THIS.
Everything you've said is completely valid. Maybe the adminges should act on this.
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Yeah i'm hoping to increase awareness about it and try and get hl2 back to the great game it used to be. I mean don't get me wrong, it's still... doable. But this stuff has to come to an end one way or another.
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People play rp for diff reason
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
My answers arei n red bold.
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
My answers arei n red bold.
Ah, Mr. I Disapprove Everything (No matter what it is.)
You're being too critical, you know exactly what I'm talking about. "That doesn't apply to EVERYONE" << The exact reason I put that there, So i didn't get some butt hurt comment about how "I'M THIRTEEN I CAN ADMUND"
For the no fear RP reason, you said "
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)"
Yes, they ARE SUPPOSED TO. But they don't, the entire reason of me putting this here. And given several fair warnings to move away doesn't set off a paralyzed response in the brain. Now if the combine quickly turned around smacking the person, I can see it startling them to paralyzed state, but i'm takling in general, and you KNEW that.
To flinging around bodies you said "Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
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It's rare than an admin is on to take care of this all the time that this happens, i posted this to inform people so maybe they could read this and realize "Wow, picking up dead bodies is pretty fail rp."
To the OOC complaint section you said "OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings."
All I'm saying is, it should be cut down in local use, because it's hard to take the atmosphere seriously when people aren't using OOC to ask about rules or help, They're using it simply because it's there to bring idiocracy into the roleplaying world. I gave a very valid example.
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the expression is nooks and crannies
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the expression is nooks and crannies
what are you talking about?
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the expression is nooks and crannies
what are you talking about?
He's talking about the title of your thread. The proper expression is 'nooks and crannies' not 'nicks and crannies'.
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
My answers arei n red bold.
Ah, Mr. I Disapprove Everything (No matter what it is.)
You're being too critical, you know exactly what I'm talking about. "That doesn't apply to EVERYONE" << The exact reason I put that there, So i didn't get some butt hurt comment about how "I'M THIRTEEN I CAN ADMUND"
For the no fear RP reason, you said "
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)"
Yes, they ARE SUPPOSED TO. But they don't, the entire reason of me putting this here. And given several fair warnings to move away doesn't set off a paralyzed response in the brain. Now if the combine quickly turned around smacking the person, I can see it startling them to paralyzed state, but i'm takling in general, and you KNEW that.
To flinging around bodies you said "Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
"
It's rare than an admin is on to take care of this all the time that this happens, i posted this to inform people so maybe they could read this and realize "Wow, picking up dead bodies is pretty fail rp."
To the OOC complaint section you said "OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings."
All I'm saying is, it should be cut down in local use, because it's hard to take the atmosphere seriously when people aren't using OOC to ask about rules or help, They're using it simply because it's there to bring idiocracy into the roleplaying world. I gave a very valid example.
So what do you suggest, since theres obviously no admins and OOC is supposed to be used for only server yet we shouldnt use it.
Should we make applications to join the server?
The one thing that can deal with all of this is ADMINS. Theres a reason theyre there.
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Another thing I would like to see changed is how the CCA talks, most of the time they talk like humans which breaks the immmersion. If I were CCA I would think about the line I would say like an actual CP in HL2 would say it. If it doesn't sound right, edit the sentence so it does sound proffesional.
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Completely agreed with the LOOC part. It should only be used whenever something seems a bit hazy about the RP scenario.
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Another thing I would like to see changed is how the CCA talks, most of the time they talk like humans which breaks the immmersion. If I were CCA I would think about the line I would say like an actual CP in HL2 would say it. If it doesn't sound right, edit the sentence so it does sound proffesional.
RCT->03 can still talk like 'humans' if they wish. If you look through the old HL2Beta soundifiles, youll notice the CCA do talk and joke around like they do here. Also:
From HL2
CP: You need a hand with this one?
Barny: Nah Im good.
CP: Ok.
Barney: Im gonna need me some privacy.
Barney probably doesnt get in shit for saying that as he probably talks like that on a daily basis. So really, CPs can trucker talk if they really want. Its up to HC to evaluate their speaking habits.
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Another thing I would like to see changed is how the CCA talks, most of the time they talk like humans which breaks the immmersion. If I were CCA I would think about the line I would say like an actual CP in HL2 would say it. If it doesn't sound right, edit the sentence so it does sound proffesional.
RCT->03 can still talk like 'humans' if they wish. If you look through the old HL2Beta soundifiles, youll notice the CCA do talk and joke around like they do here. Also:
From HL2
CP: You need a hand with this one?
Barny: Nah Im good.
CP: Ok.
Barney: Im gonna need me some privacy.
Barney probably doesnt get in shit for saying that as he probably talks like that on a daily basis. So really, CPs can trucker talk if they really want. Its up to HC to evaluate their speaking habits.
Yeah, okay, they can semi-humanly talk to citizens like "Get on the wall!" or something but sometimes they just attach a "please" to the end of the sentence. That doesn't sound intimidating at all, does it. Also, that was the HL2 beta, none of that is canon, and as I said, they can talk humanly to other units if there are no citizens around IMO.
Completely agreed with the LOOC part. It should only be used whenever something seems a bit hazy about the RP scenario.
Yeah, sometimes people just chat around in LOOC so that ICly a group of people just stand still, which also majorly breaks the immersion.
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the expression is nooks and crannies
what are you talking about?
He's talking about the title of your thread. The proper expression is 'nooks and crannies' not 'nicks and crannies'.
:D
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
My answers arei n red bold.
Ah, Mr. I Disapprove Everything (No matter what it is.)
You're being too critical, you know exactly what I'm talking about. "That doesn't apply to EVERYONE" << The exact reason I put that there, So i didn't get some butt hurt comment about how "I'M THIRTEEN I CAN ADMUND"
For the no fear RP reason, you said "
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)"
Yes, they ARE SUPPOSED TO. But they don't, the entire reason of me putting this here. And given several fair warnings to move away doesn't set off a paralyzed response in the brain. Now if the combine quickly turned around smacking the person, I can see it startling them to paralyzed state, but i'm takling in general, and you KNEW that.
To flinging around bodies you said "Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
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It's rare than an admin is on to take care of this all the time that this happens, i posted this to inform people so maybe they could read this and realize "Wow, picking up dead bodies is pretty fail rp."
To the OOC complaint section you said "OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings."
All I'm saying is, it should be cut down in local use, because it's hard to take the atmosphere seriously when people aren't using OOC to ask about rules or help, They're using it simply because it's there to bring idiocracy into the roleplaying world. I gave a very valid example.
So what do you suggest, since theres obviously no admins and OOC is supposed to be used for only server yet we shouldnt use it.
Should we make applications to join the server?
The one thing that can deal with all of this is ADMINS. Theres a reason theyre there.
Did you even read what I said? All I'm saying is, it should be cut down in local use, That doesn't say "OOC should be removed from the game completely and admins too" I don't even know why you'd come out with such a belligerent statement, I made this thread to educate people to take out of character talking to SF or /pm's. Not remove OOC and Admins from the game, what the fuck?
"The one thing that can deal with all of this is ADMINS. Theres a reason theyre there" << Admins are not all ways there, and what the message i'm trying to get to you is when admins AREN'T around, people should have the proper maturity to follow these small steps to make the atmosphere of the game more realistic.
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I've only been playing for a while, but ooc and looc being used doesn't really bother me, I just get back in character and ignore it.
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If theres no admins and people are being dumb, there is Ban Requests.
Everything you have ranted about in this thread already has its proper approaches. Nothing needs to be changed.
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Ban Request, that doesn't fix the atmosphere of the game play.
This isn't a change request for anything concerning the developers of the game, this is an attitude change request by me to the other players. I'm only asking the players if they'd help bring the immersion of the game back, by not doing stupid acts such as the ones stated in this thread.
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One more thing. I see so many "strong and powerful" characters walking around. You are all malnourished, the supplements only have the nutrients to barely sustain you. If somebody is oh so strong, then the CCA should be dragging them away for interrogation on the accusation of steroid use.
What's worse, the CCA does not acknowledge this part of the game. It seems to be some unspoken rule to ignore this facet of HL2RP.
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Guides won't change anything as I've learned, no matter how correct this is, the already-good players will read it and improve slightly, the worse people who this is aimed at won't read it and won't change...
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This is basically a few paragraphs that shows what Half-Life 2 roleplay is suppose to be at it's finest, not to be surrounded and played by a bunch of minges and fail roleplayers. Yes, some of these people can play (excluding the minges) but it just ruins the fun for those who are listening and/or watching sentences that appear on their screens. For example, a fail roleplayer encountered in a fight against another roleplay is expertise in roleplaying and knows the basics. The atmosphere is suppose to be depressing and desolate like there is no saviour out there that your citizen can think of and that's what the community is aiming for along with good roleplayers. Roleplayers DO change the game depending on their skill.
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One more thing. I see so many "strong and powerful" characters walking around. You are all malnourished, the supplements only have the nutrients to barely sustain you. If somebody is oh so strong, then the CCA should be dragging them away for interrogation on the accusation of steroid use.
What's worse, the CCA does not acknowledge this part of the game. It seems to be some unspoken rule to ignore this facet of HL2RP.
The CCA don't want to waste time arresting minges because of a description when they'll probably just disconnect or mingerun.
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People with incorrect titles is usually them not knowing the canon, which is why I usually explain to them why it's wrong instead of detaining them...
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One more thing. I see so many "strong and powerful" characters walking around. You are all malnourished, the supplements only have the nutrients to barely sustain you. If somebody is oh so strong, then the CCA should be dragging them away for interrogation on the accusation of steroid use.
What's worse, the CCA does not acknowledge this part of the game. It seems to be some unspoken rule to ignore this facet of HL2RP.
The CCA don't want to waste time arresting minges because of a description when they'll probably just disconnect or mingerun.
There's lots of things I don't want to do, like wasting time playing doctor with minges. Unless they start getting totally out of hand - I still have to do it. That's an extremely poor excuse. Might as well take it out of the game if it's going to be ignored and say the supplements do have nutrients so the citizens can work decently.
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I started playing hl2rp when I was 13, sure I fucked around quite a bit but after I got into I started realizing being serious about it was much more enjoyable.
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For what SMT said about this guide helping no body, well, jeesh man. Thanks.
Second off, this isn't a rant, this isn't a guide, this is for people who WANT to learn to how to roleplay here, who really want to enjoy the good of the game.
Minges don't even bother coming to the website. If I were a minge, I wouldn't bother fucking around on some forum, I'd be worried about being in the game ruining it. Good think i'm not a minge though.
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One more thing. I see so many "strong and powerful" characters walking around. You are all malnourished, the supplements only have the nutrients to barely sustain you. If somebody is oh so strong, then the CCA should be dragging them away for interrogation on the accusation of steroid use.
What's worse, the CCA does not acknowledge this part of the game. It seems to be some unspoken rule to ignore this facet of HL2RP.
The CCA don't want to waste time arresting minges because of a description when they'll probably just disconnect or mingerun.
There's lots of things I don't want to do, like wasting time playing doctor with minges. Unless they start getting totally out of hand - I still have to do it. That's an extremely poor excuse. Might as well take it out of the game if it's going to be ignored and say the supplements do have nutrients so the citizens can work decently.
So we should waste time attempting to RP with minges instead of ignoring those who want to actually RP seriously?
No, I'd like to play with people who actually RP instead of taking 10 minutes to detain a minge only for them to disconnect in detainment.
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If I deal with a minge, I simply disregard them, If they continue, I shoot them in the leg and try to get them unconcious and just lock them away in a cell, removing them from the rest of the player base. Because truthfully minges are worth zero timing, and maybe if even one minge, just one minge, read what I wrote in this thread, then maybe, the entire world would just fucking nut.
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I felt I would put in my two cents in this thread. Firstly, I agree whole-heartedly with you, Klashy. More needs to be done about the incursion of minges. If you wish to sound overly dramatic, you could say our server is under siege from players who seemingly join it just to troll us. More needs to be done to improve the RP environment in general, and many of the CCA High Command, myself included, have started cracking down on unprofessional behavior within our ranks.
Secondly, the CCA and minges. In response to Lawdee, the CPs are not robots. I see units acting unprofessionally in-character up to 01. It is when they receive augments that they lose their humanity and become terminators. Inserting the argument between Atticat and Moon, as a NOVA unit, it seems like I am called upon every second to deal with some strange virus or insanity. When I write them off as being a minge, more and more people take up the RP, and soon we have an impromptu event so convoluted, that the only way to end it is an admin order. As for actually dealing with the strong citizens, I frankly just void it. If the CCA started to implement a no-tolerance policy towards strong minges, it would be like the Brazilians sending in a full army to sweep the Favela. There would be so many lawbreakers, that CPs and admins together wouldn't be able to handle all of them.
Thirdly, a HUGE problem on our server right now is people making "muscled" players. People need to realize that you're not thin because of muscle, but because of malnutrition. You think there are MREs in those rations you get every so often? NOPE! They're nutrient supplements, like those multivitamins you took as a child: They sure as hell don't fill your stomach, but they do give you enough nutrients to survive another day. This does not include energy. Saying that you work out, which is how your got muscled, won't fly. You need protein to build muscle, and the amount of protein in those supplements (IF there is protein in them) is minute to the point of negligibility. The only time I will tolerate this is if you have structured your diet COMPLETELY off of non-UU food. Speaking of UU food, that stuff isn't much better for you than the supplements. Imagine McDonald's meets Tofurky: You have no idea what it is, but whatever it is, it isn't turkey, and it definitely isn't healthy.
Finally, in response to Teh Caek, sure, we could just post ban requests, but who the hell is going to post a ban request on someone who they saw dragging a body around on the street? Assuming that people always have fraps at the ready to post a ban request is as idiotic as assuming that admins are always online and at the ready. You guys have as much a life as we do, and this thread is a think tank on how to put a bandaid on the damage that minges are doing to the RP until an admin can get on to rectify it fully.
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Hazard time, thank you for your words of wisdom, and thank you for being REALISTIC about your response, unlike the admin involved.
The sum of this thread is to open atleast another net, to catch a minges eye and teach them how to roleplay.
The game isn't fun unless you immerse yourself into it. Act as you would in real life, it truely is a very fun thing and it rots the hours away like a good book.
Having said that, why do the citizen's run so fucking fast? There IS a simple way to calm that down you know?
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Maybe I'll write up a guide on how to train newbs. Yeah. I'll do that.
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The only thing I disagree with is the "Age Requirement" I started roleplaying HL2RP when Kuro first made his script, I was 15 at the time, and was considered a very competent roleplayer.
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Statua, good idea, but as for the age thing, okay, yeah, I know a few younger kids who can roleplay well, but regardless, some roleplays are taken to the extreme. the only reason I said anything about age is because older people are going to understand more clearly what it takes to make the game more fun for everyone, instead of expecting all the fun to be for themselves, at the expense of other players.
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do you all think i'll be good at roleplaying? My main language isn't english :/
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It doesn't matter what you speak, it's how you speak it.
You can be good at role playing if you follow a few simple rules, such as.
PAIN RP - You have been shot, YOU CAN'T WALK. Most likely you're limping because of a beating or maybe just a small wobble to a scuffed knee.
FEAR RP - Fear the consequences of your characters outcome. You wouldn't walk up to a 6'0 super solider and tell him to go fuck himself if it meant you were getting the dog shit beat out of you.
Passive RP - Nothing going on around you? Rp going up to a machine, putting in your tokens, and grabbing a can from the tray. RP sitting on the bench, reading a book. This opens opportunity for someone to notice your little details, to start a conversation expanding on the bigger ones. (No one really knows the power of this tool.)
Immersion - Act as if your screen was the view from your eyes. You are in the shoes of your character.
And most of all, remember the point of the game. It's to survive in an oppressive atmosphere with the fear of your life ending by a slip of your tongue.
If everyone just followed these simple steps, and incorporated them into one large picture, role playing runs effectively, smoothly, and is most importantly, enjoyable.
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If everyone just followed these simple steps, and incorporated them into one large picture, role playing runs effectively, smoothly, and is most importantly, enjoyable.
I've been saying this for years and people still don't listen. We need to find a better way to convey this.
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I agree, but there's no better way then to try and change the mindset of hl2rp players with propaganda that positively reinforces good roleplaying. We can't just shock them into wanting to roleplay correctly.
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I like this guide you've made, it's helpful for new players to serious roleplay. Good work man.
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Now you, my fine sir are a good roleplayer
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Now you, my fine sir are a good roleplayer
Thank you, I appreciate the complement, I just want to spread the word to make a better game! And thank you too Snakeslaw! Glad you read it, recommend it to other people!
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About the body thing though, they disapear faster when theyre not being held.
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HOLY SHIT. I completly agree, thats why their should be a LOOC timer. Shit.. It's soo anoying when peopel talking on looc.
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HOLY SHIT. I completly agree, thats why their should be a LOOC timer. Shit.. It's soo anoying when peopel talking on looc.
To interject: I believe that this rule would NOT be a good idea as LOOC is used for quick things like Admin stuff/Teaching/Clarification of an RP situation. However LOOC spamming should carry consequences.
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I think some people have forgotten what role playing is about. Let me remind you; It's about immersing yourself in a different reality while pretending to be the character that you are playing.
Immersion's definition:
noun
1.
an act or instance of immersing.
2.
state of being immersed.
3.
state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.
Half Life 2 Roleplay isn't about earning money, it isn't about gaining stats, it's not about achieving a certain goal, it's about developing a character's story within a different reality, and making your character survive a scenario.
This means, when you play Half Life 2 Role Play, you surround yourself in the world you are in. You're not in your safe little American/British/Danish homes or cities anymore. You're in a city run by the civil protection who are known to snap necks over curse words, and beat over running. They are to be FEARED.
-Here's a problem brought up earlier in OOC about failure to immerse in the game mode.
Combine: "Get out of here!"
Citizen moves back five feet, continuing to stare
Combine pulls out electric baton
Citizen stares
Not really sure what this means, if that is /me'd all of it, well then take it ICly, yeah theyre supposed to fearRP but fearrp can result in just standing still doing nothing (kinda like paralyse)
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This is bull shit. It makes the game unenjoyable not only for the combine, but for other citizens spectating. Other citizens are supposed to see the compliance and control that the combine have over the citizens; It's all a part of the atmosphere of the game.
- Another problem that I constantly deal with; The CCA are talking, they chit and chat, I get involved with them trying to roleplay seriously, and then the LOOC chatter starts happening about something completely retarded, and it kills the mood of the game.
Combine: Citizen, I need to speak with you
Worker: Yes sir, what's the issue
Combine: This citizen is very hurt, and needs medical assistance
Combine(LOOC): LOL D00D TRICYCLE STUCK HALF WAY UP HIS ASS.
Worker: Right... uh, i'll get on that.
Combine2(LOOC): ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRICYLCE OUT LOLLLEIESSS, LETS GO GET DONUTS BRO!
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
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This is just annoying and bothersome. I don't like how often OOC is used in this game. OOC should be for explaining something that happened on accident in game or having to do with glitches within the game, not have a separate conversation with the person you're playing with, if you wanted to do that, go into SF and save the rest of us the mood kill. Maybe we should play with it disabled for a little while and see what it's like?
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
-Dead bodies, STOP GRABBING THEM AS SOON AS YOU SEE THEM. First of all, you're all malnourished citizens, there's no way you'd be able to lift a body up off the ground and carry it. Second off, it's just plain stupid, dead or unconcious people don't get picked up and thrown around, think about how ridiculousness that would be in real life.
Grandma faints
Grand child 1 picks up grandma by back, slamming her around as he walks her up the stairs, placing her down in a weird positon
Grand child 2 jump crouches over the grandma, picking her up again and setting her down only to be annoying
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
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Retarded.
For a roleplaying world to come alive, we need everyone's help and cooperation. Just stop being minges and trolls. When you see something different, be mature about it, look at it, gaze it, don't run up and steal it, or try to break it.
And truth be told, if you're under the age of 16, you shouldn't be playing HL2RP. You should be playing some other lesser game mode because without an established high school education, you can't have the maturity to appreciate this form of acting. That doesn't apply to EVERYONE, however, I'm sure most would agree that 18 year old and older are more serious than 14 and under...
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
Sure, this was sort of a rant, but it's a rant that's been a long time coming, help the server get it's atmosphere back, and do your part. It only takes one idiot to fuck up the entire game for everyone.
My answers arei n red bold.
I agree with your responses, .apex. It does seem like your out to shoot him down, but I totally agree with you, and here's why:
If someone asks for (L)OOC silence during RP, people should comply to that. Its up to the people involves/around if they want to chat meanwhile or not. If someone keeps talking looc while rp even after silence was asked, tell an admin
I was the CAs assistant yesterday, and I was upstairs transcribing conversations. I took the job waaaay to seriously,and would like format the pages and shit. This took a lot of attention. As I was doing this, the two OTA got into an LOOC conversation about some funny joke or some shit. Most people up there didn't care, the OTAs were joking, the CA was laughing, and the citizen was typing their next message. I was annoyed, because, my shit was getting buried. So i said "Okay, quit the fucking LOOC Chatter." and they shut RIGHT up. That is the way it should remain, no BS limits on LOOC or anything.
OOC is for people to chat with eachother, can be whatever. Rules, help, anything, dosnt even have to be (HL2)RP related, if you are so bothered by OOC chat, turn it off in settings.
I'm 50/50 with this one. On one hand, global OOC does deserve its right to have any discussion, however, my opinion is if your going to have a full-blown conversation, take it to PM, or find them IG-OOCly and take it to LOOC. The odd tits or cock in OOC is funny, and the server reactions as a high-ranked admin joins is funny too, as well as the odd small conversation or whatever. But remember, this is a text based game, so EVERYONES RP shouldn't have to suffer because a few of you wanted to CONSTANTLY put tits into the chat. *AHEM AHEM* If you wanna do that shit, or have a full blown conversation, take it to PMs is my idea now (thrust upon me by the oh-s0-smart admins)
Its already kickable/bannable to fling corpses around for no reason and specially without /me since its well powergaming. if you see this, again, call admin
This is probably the only comment i can say, Nothing can be done, or i've not yet seen anything creative enough to stop this. flinging corpses for no reason is a major problem. So is falling for no reason. One thing I could say we could do is make it so, to carry a corpse, unless you are CCA, you require two people. Minges never really work in groups, plus this would make Resistance RP more intresting. And mabye, one person could drag a corpse, but they'd be slowed to a slower-than-walk speed, that way, if they're a minge they can be stopped, and dragging corpses to hide them is still a viable solution.
But I digress. My point is, although it's bannable for flinging corpses. the people who usually do it are minges who have nothing better to do than fling the corpse, than lolrun from the admin. I've seen experienced minges who can dodge a physgun like it's a laser from a walker in War of the Worlds. It's impressive, actually. Theres not much that can be done about that.
Age dosnt have shit to do with RP-skill or anything. I was admin on hl2rp aswell when i was 14, got DvL and was never banned. There are people 18+ that are bigger failures and dicks than people around 13. It comes down to the PERSON not the age. A 12yearold can be a better RPer than someone 18. Yeah it sounds unlikely but sometimes it does happen that a smart kid comes around
YES. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY FACE PALMED WHEN I READ WHAT HE SAID. Age does NOT equal maturity. I play airsoft, and the indoor field i play at created "over 16 only" midnight games, to try to give arenas that didn't have 12 year old codfags running around screaming and cussing because their mommys saw the yearly membership as an opportunity for cheap daycare. I've found, that more often than not, these midnight games are a PROBLEM. Immature 16 year olds are a much larger problem, both physically and communicativley, than immature 12 year olds. And boy oh boy, immature 16+, not in short supply. At all. Age is not the issue, maturity is the issue. It's not necisicarally true that the minges are immature, either. We all just need to understand what we are looking for in good RP, and to put leashes on everything we say and do, that's not good RP, that's creative stranglehold.
But yeah, anyway, i'll probably get warned for necropost supreme with this one. I just wanted to add my two cents, because i thought this topic needed it. That is all.
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do you all think i'll be good at roleplaying? My main language isn't english :/
Well, i have to say, the first line of your response Klashy, made me feel like you were shooting this guy down.
He's saying he doesn't speak english too well, so that first line was like 0.o wut?
But yeah, its not really about having PERFECT spelling or grammar. Make your characters speak english the way you do, but be careful, the CCA could consider it an imperfection
It doesn't matter what you speak, it's how you speak it.
You can be good at role playing if you follow a few simple rules, such as.
PAIN RP - You have been shot, YOU CAN'T WALK. Most likely you're limping because of a beating or maybe just a small wobble to a scuffed knee.
Yes.
FEAR RP - Fear the consequences of your characters outcome. You wouldn't walk up to a 6'0 super solider and tell him to go fuck himself if it meant you were getting the dog shit beat out of you.
Oh yes.
Passive RP - Nothing going on around you? Rp going up to a machine, putting in your tokens, and grabbing a can from the tray. RP sitting on the bench, reading a book. This opens opportunity for someone to notice your little details, to start a conversation expanding on the bigger ones. (No one really knows the power of this tool.)For me, trying to report 2 audio violators turned into them (pretending to) befreinding me, taking me to their apartment, us sharing some donuts and tea, and then getting the shit beaten out of me with a tea kettle and tossed out a window because "snitches get stitches."
Immersion - Act as if your screen was the view from your eyes. You are in the shoes of your character.
It's more than that. I like to give every voice a personification, in my head. If it says british, i read it with a british accent. I read the CPs like a Vocoder. It's why we use text, instead of voice chat. theres a lot more, but i feel like its too much to go listing out. XD
And most of all, remember the point of the game. It's to survive in an oppressive atmosphere with the fear of your life ending by a slip of your tongue.
That depends on what you do, and where you hang out.
If everyone just followed these simple steps, and incorporated them into one large picture, role playing runs effectively, smoothly, and is most importantly, enjoyable. It's not just the steps, its caring to do the steps right. if I were to half ass it, I wouldn't improve RP, i could actually damage it more heavily. It's about the effort that you put in, not the tactics that you use.
Necropost SUPREME.
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I'm not gonna make a long post here for two reasons, one is that I'm a lazy arse, the other is because most of this issue has been argued into the ground. However there is one point here I dissagree with.
YES. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY FACE PALMED WHEN I READ WHAT HE SAID. Age does NOT equal maturity. I play airsoft, and the indoor field i play at created "over 16 only" midnight games, to try to give arenas that didn't have 12 year old codfags running around screaming and cussing because their mommys saw the yearly membership as an opportunity for cheap daycare. I've found, that more often than not, these midnight games are a PROBLEM. Immature 16 year olds are a much larger problem, both physically and communicativley, than immature 12 year olds. And boy oh boy, immature 16+, not in short supply. At all. Age is not the issue, maturity is the issue. It's not necisicarally true that the minges are immature, either. We all just need to understand what we are looking for in good RP, and to put leashes on everything we say and do, that's not good RP, that's creative stranglehold.
You guys are all saying that some 12 year olds can be more mature and better at RP than some 16 year olds, and that is true, but not the issue. An immature 16 year old is way below the standard of good RP and the 12 year olds that are better are still below it. The fact is without experience and education you can't RP effectively, and 12 year old kids just don't have that. I have friends on the RP server who are younger and honestly I don't have any issue with them personally, but a lot of people who aren't at least 15-16 have many problems with their RP skill. They simply don't have the IRL experiences to figure out how they would reactif put into these situations or the knoledge to know how some things work. To anyone reading these posts who was less than 16 or so when they started RP like I was go back and look at your old RP. Yes, some of the mistakes are caused by you being new to RP but a lot were also caused by not having the experience to deal with the situations. If there are 12 year olds who are up to the standard of good serious RP somehow they are few and far between. The fact is even a good 12 year old RP'r is still well below the standards set by the mature older RP'rs.
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I agree with the OP. The Combine are basically a metaphor for alien/foreign oppression. Let's take a look at some "real" (film) examples of how citizens may act in the company of Civil Protection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veztNJQyRJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKie_34cpJI
Also in regards to age, I cannot even say I have anywhere near enough IRL experiences to RP a truly realistic character. I roleplay a 33-year-old woman. I'm a 19-year-old male who lives a generally posh live in a Canadian suburban home with a few friends who pays for his own rent and food. What the hell does that say about me? It means most of Amanda Whitley is ripped from books (50%) and the remainder is ripped from my own personality, others I know and a tiny little bit from television programmes.
If you're less than even the legal age to drink or drive in your country (19 and 16 respectively in Canada), how can you even begin to comprehend what it's like to be an adult? Most of you are younger than 20 years old and have likely never lived on your own, had sex, drank legally in a bar into the wee hours of the morning, done hard drugs, had a full time job, been in a serious relationship, traveled on your own or with your significant other, etc. Most of you have not experienced the major facets of being an adult which is true independence. But that does not mean you cannot imitate it to the best of your ability. I implore everyone to read mature books, hang out with older people, etc. to get a sense of what it's like to create an adult character. Though none of us will ever be perfect making a realistic character who's older (or in the very rare case) younger than us, unless we're writing an auto-biography.
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Could someone please explain to me why we're debating what determines better roleplayers? Look, through my years of RP and teaching, theres one simple factor to what determines whether someone is a good roleplayer or not. Determination. The more one cares about roleplaying, the better they are or will become at roleplaying. Its simple. Age, experience, those are all factors in improvement but determination is in my opinion the biggest factor.
TL;DR, if someone isn't determined to RP, their skills wont be the greatest.