Not at all.....I am chief quite often and I promote and demote SWAT all the time. The point of SWAT is to have armored units with heavy weapons to raid a place which could cost lives. I try to organize them and when we raid I try to stay quiet until we move in all together. SWAT is a necessity for good raids with the least amount of lives lost. Once the raid is over I demote every SWAT except for one who volunteers to stay, and I tell the others to go to the NPC again and become SWAT.However that does waste money so I am in favor of SWAT being cheaper to promote.BUT HELL NO to a SWAT NPC. If there is one thing that frustrates me it is SWAT running around like they are cops, which they do anyway. If anything should happen to increase the number of SWAT around the Mayor should be able to promote them as well. And then there would be limits to the number which would just make the raids an ultimate failure. I love the way I RP raids. Get proof, keep radio on a down low, tell SWAT the plan and get ready to move in lightning fast and clear it out as quickly and safely as possible. We don't need random people running around just destroying RP because there they can.The system we have now is beautiful. For there to be SWAT the mayor has to appoint someone they like to be chief and that chief promotes people they like and trust will do their job.Also they aren't supposed to be "interesting to play," tell me now. In real life do you see SWAT officers on duty walking around or acting as police? No. And along with that what could they possibly do? Nothing. They are there for a certain job and once it is over they go back to being a cop to do the less intense stuff because there is nothing like a raid going on. When there is another raid, SWAT are promoted again.Reason I am so harsh is because I really REALLY dislike this idea, it would just make being chief/cop/swat a bad job. Which I love to do Don't want my game ruined haha.-SupportThis is NOT real life, this is OCRP 2. This is about making the gamemode fun and accessable to play for the MAJORITY of the community, not just for one person.And in that case then why dont we just ban police officers from getting enguaged in any serious fire fight with weapons greater than a shotgun? Because then it would give SWAT a function and prevent the police force dying all at once.FYI, SS don't really replace SWAT. SWAT aren't supposed to protect the mayor unless the mayor is under attack. And in that case the SS are with the mayor and raiders are outside the door trying to get in, SWAT come from behind with their armor like SS has to clear it out. They are both necessary for the Mayor's protection. But if he isn't under attack, its not their job to be extra SS.
TL;DR ShermanSWAT are used for special situations like bomb threats, hostage situations, etc. SS are to protect the mayor. Police are to protect the public. And SWAT are to eliminate threats. That should and WILL never change.
Simple solution; passive RP.You go to a base, or the nexus, you walk around doing passive, until you're deployed.If anything you can say the same about firefighters, secret service as well as paramedics. They all have to do nothing until the time arises when they're called out — granted secret service are a little more active, but when the mayor sits in his office all day, you have to passive until something happens.Don't like passive but like action? Don't roll SWAT, stay as police.
Quote from: DrVengeance ??? Hold me on May 13, 2013, 11:55:56 AMSimple solution; passive RP.You go to a base, or the nexus, you walk around doing passive, until you're deployed.If anything you can say the same about firefighters, secret service as well as paramedics. They all have to do nothing until the time arises when they're called out — granted secret service are a little more active, but when the mayor sits in his office all day, you have to passive until something happens.Don't like passive but like action? Don't roll SWAT, stay as police.Completely agree. I do passive all the time as a firefighter. Paramedics can Atleast make house calls just to check up on people. But like Dr said if you can't stand being SWAT and taking the chance of not having anything to do well choose another job.
If you cannot passive RP, you cannot RP in general. I have been playing gmod for almost five years. Over 8000 hours on it and most of that was role playing and it is a fact that passive RP is what really tests people. Role playing is not meant to be about action but developing your character. Just because you cannot do it doesn't mean others need to change. And no one is forcing you to be SWAT, you can quit any time you want. Also, your NOT supposed to but a warehouse outside the city or anything like that. Its not government property where SWAT would be. You are supposed to stay at the Nexus, and if you want an officer the third floor of the Nexus has that. Do you see government officials buying houses and playing around in there waiting for a call? No. And I know what you are talking about, the warehouse. Anything you purchase someone can say counts as a house, and that is basically what you guys were doing.Again, RP isn't about action, if you cannot passive go play CSS, TF2 Deathmatch or something that does.