Ice and his reform to the hl2rp community

[??. McBullet]

Actually, he isn't mistaken. 14 days after you tell Karma that you're working kinks out, all you do is change the definition. It still stated that the Director was above the citizens ("More than just a citizen in a white shirt."). I have seen you on maybe three or four times, and no progress has actually been made. In all honesty, Adam ran the CWU into the ground, but you're leading it down even further. We have only one worker, a representative, and three or more managers. This is incredibly unbalanced. The CWU has made no progress since Adam was kicked out of it.

Ice, how could you possibly say that you're doing a good job? Adam posted some solid evidence of your ego getting blown out of proportion, as well as your extensive elitism in regards to the CWU. I can clearly remember Roflwaffle's warning that if you even showed signs of elitism or if your ego got bigger, you would be removed instantly.

I recall somebody (tell me if this was you) who stated that "switching Adam with Ice is like switching George Bush with Hitler", and I agree with this completely.

Note: Pointing out size discrepancies in your incriminating evidence and trying to change the subject = bad idea.

[putin]

If we truly want a good CWU there is only one answer that I will provide. Failure to follow will result in a failing CWU.

1. Put Adam back into leadership positon of CWU.
2.
3. PROFIT

[lemonshit]

I think that Adam should at least get Temporary ownership of CWU because he did a hell of a lot better than what this shithead is doing.

[Pielolz]

Ice seized power, then he shook the CWU appart, threw some kerosine on it, dropped a match, jumped off the waggon with both feet then pushed the wagon off the cliff. I have NEVER seen a CWU for three months, that says somthing.

[Adam S]

Actually, he isn't mistaken. 14 days after you tell Karma that you're working kinks out, all you do is change the definition. It still stated that the Director was above the citizens ("More than just a citizen in a white shirt."). I have seen you on maybe three or four times, and no progress has actually been made. In all honesty, Adam ran the CWU into the ground, but you're leading it down even further. We have only one worker, a representative, and three or more managers. This is incredibly unbalanced. The CWU has made no progress since Adam was kicked out of it.

Ice, how could you possibly say that you're doing a good job? Adam posted some solid evidence of your ego getting blown out of proportion, as well as your extensive elitism in regards to the CWU. I can clearly remember Roflwaffle's warning that if you even showed signs of elitism or if your ego got bigger, you would be removed instantly.

I recall somebody (tell me if this was you) who stated that "switching Adam with Ice is like switching George Bush with Hitler", and I agree with this completely.

Note: Pointing out size discrepancies in your incriminating evidence and trying to change the subject = bad idea.

I Will admit nearing the end of my position at CG the cwu was getting bad... But not as bad as outsiders thought.  I have taken time to rethink my mistakes i think i know which way to go now. This post was directed at Ice and Yankee i want them both punished for their incompetent mistakes.

I knew yankee was conspiring against me and hand feeding someone.  But he lied to me, saying he wasn't.  I doubt any of you believe that.

Oh look, Ice is no longer organizer and i wont be getting it back even tho i contributed.  Shows how RTLK runs this joint he doesnt trust me still cause it was him who helped.

[Ice]

You're both mistaken. There is one Worker listed, as well as two applications that were accepted just today and yesterday. I've gotten on every time I was home. For almost the entire time that I was awake. The people who are Managers (Including you) are people whom I have designated as such. I'm filling it from the top down based on their competency and former rank. Adam posted items without showing the other half of the conversation. (Which I'll show you down here: )

I just adore how you try to act all mature, yet you act like a little prick to everyone.





Is that really the way to talk to another player? You act as if all the other players are underneath you. You're a regular fucking player like everyone else.

Fucking retard

God all these people who think they're cool because they're like LOLOL IM ANONIMUS DONT FORGIVE OR FORGET DURRR are just so fucking annoying.

My being part of Anonymous is not the subject here. Please keep on topic. (Which I'll admit I have not done because I have not.)

Furtheron: No, that is not a way to talk to someone, but when it's someone that I have never seen nor interacted with online who is jumping on the "You're killing the CWU!" bandwagon, it quite frankly makes me angry.

Oh darn. And I was hoping we could be civil to one another. Oh well~!

You done lost. Sorry.

Mmm. Something like that. How'd the deletion of the Minecraft server along with the subsequent ban go?

Really good all of its been revoked, the copy of CGMC is on my hard drive.

Oh heres some random bits of the forums that is just funny.


Elitism

Thinking he runs the place

His sad excuse for being inactive.

I am LEADER of the CWU, which I imagine would entail me controlling what happens on the CWU forums. (Even I'll admit that sounds a little Elitist.)





-I really wish people would listen to both sides of the story rather than being rage filled and childish about having someone they don't know as the leader of the CWU.

Ice seized power, then he shook the CWU appart, threw some kerosine on it, dropped a match, jumped off the waggon with both feet then pushed the wagon off the cliff. I have NEVER seen a CWU for three months, that says somthing.

That's a lie. I've been the leader of the CWU for around a month. At the most. How can you say I've destroyed the CWU? I've never even seen you before besides the few times I've seen your frivolous applications for authorisations. You've never even seen what I've done. I've raised the bar for the CWU.

If you don't like what I've done, why don't you post on the suggestion thread in the CWU forum itself as I have advocated many a time?

Actually, he isn't mistaken. 14 days after you tell Karma that you're working kinks out, all you do is change the definition. It still stated that the Director was above the citizens ("More than just a citizen in a white shirt."). I have seen you on maybe three or four times, and no progress has actually been made. In all honesty, Adam ran the CWU into the ground, but you're leading it down even further. We have only one worker, a representative, and three or more managers. This is incredibly unbalanced. The CWU has made no progress since Adam was kicked out of it.

Ice, how could you possibly say that you're doing a good job? Adam posted some solid evidence of your ego getting blown out of proportion, as well as your extensive elitism in regards to the CWU. I can clearly remember Roflwaffle's warning that if you even showed signs of elitism or if your ego got bigger, you would be removed instantly.

I recall somebody (tell me if this was you) who stated that "switching Adam with Ice is like switching George Bush with Hitler", and I agree with this completely.

Note: Pointing out size discrepancies in your incriminating evidence and trying to change the subject = bad idea.

I Will admit nearing the end of my position at CG the cwu was getting bad... But not as bad as outsiders thought.  I have taken time to rethink my mistakes i think i know which way to go now. This post was directed at Ice and Yankee i want them both punished for their incompetent mistakes.

I knew yankee was conspiring against me and hand feeding someone.  But he lied to me, saying he wasn't.  I doubt any of you believe that.

This (While somewhat offtopic) is mature. I'm very glad to see you acting this way, even if it isn't in the best of circumstances to me.

I think that Adam should at least get Temporary ownership of CWU because he did a hell of a lot better than what this shithead is doing.

Would explain your reasoning? Explain how I've driven it into the ground. The only one I've seen who has done this is Burning Bullet whom I've addressed in this post.

[Scratchie]

Unfortunately, you were given a time limit Ice.  You failed to meet it.

And also unfortunately, I have to agree with Tittles (as long as what is in the works for who I am speaking with about it does not pan out.)

[Ice]

Unfortunately, you were given a time limit Ice.  You failed to meet it.

And also unfortunately, I have to agree with Tittles (as long as what is in the works for who I am speaking with about it does not pan out.)

Indeed there was a time limit, and I was unable to meet it as hard as I tried.

I should ask, but I won't. Suffice to say "I shouldn't have said that, even though I still feel what I said was justified."

[Penguin]

Ice your ego is way to huge and it has been shown, I will now write what I think should be chagned.
1. Remove Ice from leader.
2. Add adam as leader.
3. Rebuild the CWU from the ground up.( Do not remove all the workers again like ice did, after he did that I had no desire to be in the CWU)
4. Train and actually promote people, Sweeping the ground gets a bit tedious after the 100'th time.
5. Open 1 large shop not many small ones, that would make it easier to sell and divide the roleplay up between active members at the time.
6. Maintain a constant steady pace of roleplay that goes on.
7. Profit.
Suggestions: Decorate public areas with maybe some props like chairs and couches, Also make paintings of CCA Propoganda.
Ice: From what I have seen, your best friend on the server is an excuse. You don't understand CWU canon. I honestly hate what you have done to the CWU, what is the point in removing all of the CWU. Nobody is going to re-apply if they already have a CP character. Now if they reset all the CP characters it would be worth re-applying. Your ranks are egotistic and elitist, there are no workers that are better than a citizen, shit you should have been amputated for even hinting at that.
Ice(Harrassing others): Well first off you were insulting Adam when you werent even in charge yet. Now onto the stuff that matters.... You seem to think your a better person than adam, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say you sir, can blow adam s, He has always and always will be a better person than you no matter what you can do. You should be the one to step down while you still have your pride ( because you obviously have a lot of it). Now adam has contributed a lot more than you, He ran the CWU for God knows how long. He also runs a Minecraft server on the side, And he was still more active than you are. You have no right to make fun of his minecraft server.
Honestly I think whenever you post you try to act like a smart ass, Then you try to go off-topic after you say something hurtful to someone.
I think you are the crying 8 year old in the situation and your ass needs a removal of all CWU authority's.
+support for adam getting another chance, Because Ice is not better if anything he is worse.

[wag1]

I was reading this and since I don't know much about everyone here I probably shouldn't post but:

Ice, your ego is massive, I don't care what your excuse is, but it's just HUGE. Your acting like a jerk to everyone and your, mysterious over mature attitude gets annoying once you realize the prick this guy really is. From what I've heard from other people, and his posts himself I say you put Adam back as the leader. Ice, your tearing the CWU itself apart! Please if you want to fix the CWU leave it! Or atleast give your position to Adam!

[Ice]

Ice your ego is way to huge and it has been shown, I will now write what I think should be chagned.
1. Remove Ice from leader.
2. Add adam as leader.
3. Rebuild the CWU from the ground up.( Do not remove all the workers again like ice did, after he did that I had no desire to be in the CWU)
4. Train and actually promote people, Sweeping the ground gets a bit tedious after the 100'th time.
5. Open 1 large shop not many small ones, that would make it easier to sell and divide the roleplay up between active members at the time.
6. Maintain a constant steady pace of roleplay that goes on.
7. Profit.
Suggestions: Decorate public areas with maybe some props like chairs and couches, Also make paintings of CCA Propoganda.
Ice: From what I have seen, your best friend on the server is an excuse. You don't understand CWU canon. I honestly hate what you have done to the CWU, what is the point in removing all of the CWU. Nobody is going to re-apply if they already have a CP character. Now if they reset all the CP characters it would be worth re-applying. Your ranks are egotistic and elitist, there are no workers that are better than a citizen, shit you should have been amputated for even hinting at that.
Ice(Harrassing others): Well first off you were insulting Adam when you werent even in charge yet. Now onto the stuff that matters.... You seem to think your a better person than adam, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say you sir, can blow adam s, He has always and always will be a better person than you no matter what you can do. You should be the one to step down while you still have your pride ( because you obviously have a lot of it). Now adam has contributed a lot more than you, He ran the CWU for God knows how long. He also runs a Minecraft server on the side, And he was still more active than you are. You have no right to make fun of his minecraft server.
Honestly I think whenever you post you try to act like a smart ass, Then you try to go off-topic after you say something hurtful to someone.
I think you are the crying 8 year old in the situation and your ass needs a removal of all CWU authority's.
+support for adam getting another chance, Because Ice is not better if anything he is worse.

My, my, you're behind the ball. I've already been removed after not really being given enough time to actually contribute.

I was leader for about four weeks. Applications had just opened this week. Training was in the works, as well as a shop. I never hinted at Workers being superior. Infact, I said that Workers were merely citizens with a white shirt as you can see here:



I removed T3 and below. (If there's any below that.) No more. If they didn't want to reapply that's their problem.

The decorating of public areas, and the painting of CCA murals is a brilliant idea I'll give you that.

You say he is the better person with his terrible grammar (Which I'll say has improved immensely.) and his deletion of the Minecraft server, along with his elitism? (The elitism also smells faintly of me if you understand my metaphor.) Very well. You continue believing that.

Since when have I made fun of his Minecraft server? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Adam runs a superb Minecraft server. Not joking.


Now to correct your terrible grammar.

Ice your ego is way to huge and it has been shown, I will now write what I think should be chagned.
1. Remove Ice from leader.
2. Add Adam as leader.
3. Rebuild the CWU from the ground up.( Do not remove all the workers again like Ice did, after he did that I had no desire to be in the CWU)
4. Train and actually promote people. Sweeping the ground gets a bit tedious after the 100'th time.
5. Open 1 large shop not many small ones, that would make it easier to sell and divide the roleplay up between active members at the time.
6. Maintain a constant steady pace of roleplay that goes on.
7. Profit.
Suggestions: Decorate public areas with maybe some props like chairs and couches, Also make paintings of CCA Propoganda.
Ice: From what I have seen, your best friend on the server is an excuse. You don't understand CWU canon. I honestly hate what you have done to the CWU, what is the point in removing all of the CWU. Nobody is going to re-apply if they already have a CP character, now if they reset all the CP characters it would be worth re-applying. Your ranks are egotistic and elitist, there are no workers that are better than a citizen, shit you should have been amputated for even hinting at that.
Ice(Harrassing others): Well first off you were insulting Adam when you weren't even in charge yet. Now onto the stuff that matters.... You seem to think your a better person than Adam, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say you sir; can blow Adam s, He has always and always will be a better person than you no matter what you can do. You should be the one to step down while you still have your pride ( because you obviously have a lot of it). Now Adam has contributed a lot more than you, he ran the CWU for God knows how long. He also runs a Minecraft server on the side, And he was still more active than you are. You have no right to make fun of his Minecraft server. Honestly I think whenever you post you try to act like a smart ass, Then you try to go off-topic after you say something hurtful to someone. I think you are the crying 8 year old in the situation and your ass needs a removal of all CWU authority's.
+support for Adam getting another chance, Because Ice is not better if anything he is worse.

[Penguin]

Ice your ego is way to huge and it has been shown, I will now write what I think should be chagned.
1. Remove Ice from leader.
2. Add adam as leader.
3. Rebuild the CWU from the ground up.( Do not remove all the workers again like ice did, after he did that I had no desire to be in the CWU)
4. Train and actually promote people, Sweeping the ground gets a bit tedious after the 100'th time.
5. Open 1 large shop not many small ones, that would make it easier to sell and divide the roleplay up between active members at the time.
6. Maintain a constant steady pace of roleplay that goes on.
7. Profit.
Suggestions: Decorate public areas with maybe some props like chairs and couches, Also make paintings of CCA Propoganda.
Ice: From what I have seen, your best friend on the server is an excuse. You don't understand CWU canon. I honestly hate what you have done to the CWU, what is the point in removing all of the CWU. Nobody is going to re-apply if they already have a CP character. Now if they reset all the CP characters it would be worth re-applying. Your ranks are egotistic and elitist, there are no workers that are better than a citizen, shit you should have been amputated for even hinting at that.
Ice(Harrassing others): Well first off you were insulting Adam when you werent even in charge yet. Now onto the stuff that matters.... You seem to think your a better person than adam, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say you sir, can blow adam s, He has always and always will be a better person than you no matter what you can do. You should be the one to step down while you still have your pride ( because you obviously have a lot of it). Now adam has contributed a lot more than you, He ran the CWU for God knows how long. He also runs a Minecraft server on the side, And he was still more active than you are. You have no right to make fun of his minecraft server.
Honestly I think whenever you post you try to act like a smart ass, Then you try to go off-topic after you say something hurtful to someone.
I think you are the crying 8 year old in the situation and your ass needs a removal of all CWU authority's.
+support for adam getting another chance, Because Ice is not better if anything he is worse.

My, my, you're behind the ball. I've already been removed after not really being given enough time to actually contribute.

I was leader for about four weeks. Applications had just opened this week. Training was in the works, as well as a shop. I never hinted at Workers being superior. Infact, I said that Workers were merely citizens with a white shirt as you can see here:



I removed T3 and below. (If there's any below that.) No more. If they didn't want to reapply that's their problem.

The decorating of public areas, and the painting of CCA murals is a brilliant idea I'll give you that.

You say he is the better person with his terrible grammar (Which I'll say has improved immensely.) and his deletion of the Minecraft server, along with his elitism? (The elitism also smells faintly of me if you understand my metaphor.) Very well. You continue believing that.

Since when have I made fun of his Minecraft server? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Adam runs a superb Minecraft server. Not joking.


Now to correct your terrible grammar.

Ice your ego is way to huge and it has been shown, I will now write what I think should be chagned.
1. Remove Ice from leader.
2. Add Adam as leader.
3. Rebuild the CWU from the ground up.( Do not remove all the workers again like Ice did, after he did that I had no desire to be in the CWU)
4. Train and actually promote people. Sweeping the ground gets a bit tedious after the 100'th time.
5. Open 1 large shop not many small ones, that would make it easier to sell and divide the roleplay up between active members at the time.
6. Maintain a constant steady pace of roleplay that goes on.
7. Profit.
Suggestions: Decorate public areas with maybe some props like chairs and couches, Also make paintings of CCA Propoganda.
Ice: From what I have seen, your best friend on the server is an excuse. You don't understand CWU canon. I honestly hate what you have done to the CWU, what is the point in removing all of the CWU. Nobody is going to re-apply if they already have a CP character, now if they reset all the CP characters it would be worth re-applying. Your ranks are egotistic and elitist, there are no workers that are better than a citizen, shit you should have been amputated for even hinting at that.
Ice(Harrassing others): Well first off you were insulting Adam when you weren't even in charge yet. Now onto the stuff that matters.... You seem to think your a better person than Adam, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say you sir; can blow Adam s, He has always and always will be a better person than you no matter what you can do. You should be the one to step down while you still have your pride ( because you obviously have a lot of it). Now Adam has contributed a lot more than you, he ran the CWU for God knows how long. He also runs a Minecraft server on the side, And he was still more active than you are. You have no right to make fun of his Minecraft server. Honestly I think whenever you post you try to act like a smart ass, Then you try to go off-topic after you say something hurtful to someone. I think you are the crying 8 year old in the situation and your ass needs a removal of all CWU authority's.
+support for Adam getting another chance, Because Ice is not better if anything he is worse.

Why didn't you use all this time, to correct people's grammar, and use it on fixing your mistakes and helping the server. And if you think that correcting someone's grammar is a insult you need to rethink ways of trying to insult people.

[Adam S]

There should be a community vote on who is the new organizer. But RTLK said thats not how the community runs. All i know is the person whos ranting has the stage.

Welcome your new Organizer Avalanche, You dont know him but you didnt know ice too so it shouldn't be that bad.

[Monkey with a gun]

Being friends with both Adam and Ice i feel like i have a very neutral opinion on this matter.Do i think Ice did a bad job with the CWU? No, i do not.Sure he made some wrong decisions but we all do, i always felt like he was a great leader and a nice person even with his ego, and the same goes for Adam.I hear Avalanche is going to be asked to take on the position of CWU Organizer/Director so good for him, do i think it is a good idea? No, but i think he deserves a chance to prove himself like anybody else would.So before world war three, war of the hissy fits happens again i think we should all give him a chance and anybody else who is picked.

[GeeMayn]

Ice, it's obvious you only did that because you were forced to.

Originally, you planned to make ALL of the CWU apply, fucked up the ranks, rules, etc.
YOU only changed it because Karma forced you to.
Nobody does the exact opposite of what they planned to do in a matter of days.