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Title: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 12, 2014, 03:12:33 PM
Blt good idea.

Also what about PAC?

http://forums.cloudsixteen.com/index.php?topic=2460.msg17968#msg17968

Plugin link.

Can be added as a flag and will be given to gold members. Removed if they abuse it, etc etc.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Mr. Pettit on March 12, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
This has been suggested tons of times. It's not really useful and can be abused easily. But whatever, I'm 50/50 for it.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: rBST Cow on March 12, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
If someone abuses it, ban them. Simple.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 12, 2014, 03:52:47 PM
Code: [Select]
[OOC] Luca Paytner: are you a dev
Dr. Pepper has disconnected from the server.
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: sorta
[OOC] Luca Paytner: if u r, mind looking at my PAC suggestion
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: i can arleady tell you that wont og through
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: wow how do i england
[OOC] Luca Paytner: really? damn. it'd be cool for golds only
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: i know, i sort of want it in too
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: but idk
Dr. Pepper has connected to the server.
[OOC] Luca Paytner: if people make themselves giants or ass pull equipment they'd just get their benefits removed and banned, etc
[LOOC] Richard Traugott: :3
[LOOC] Richard Traugott: ( ?° ?? ?°)
[OOC] Luca Paytner: its easy to take a screenshot of someoen abusing pac anyways
[LOOC] Luca Paytner: ngr
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: we like logs a lot
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: so if it is implemented it'll probably have lots of logs
[OOC] Luca Paytner: well, a screenshot of someone putting a shotgun on their back when they don't actually have one is easy. just f12 and steam will do it for u
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: mhm
[OOC] Luca Paytner: and then all you need is for it to be logged for everytime someone opens pac, and just say the date of the screenshot and they're doomed.
[OOC] Luca Paytner: rip gold benefits just so you could look 2edgy4me

what would happen if someone abused, abridged version in spoilers.

Changed spoilers to [code]. because the OOC tags make additional spoilers that are annoying to read. ~Khub
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: aeiou on March 12, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
tl;dr: could be a neat feature if controlled properly
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 12, 2014, 03:55:50 PM
[OOC] Luca Paytner: can be made for golds only so its easier to control too, and garners more donation money to pay the bills.


+1 or -1?

Title: Re: PAC
Post by: rBST Cow on March 12, 2014, 04:00:21 PM
Can you please stop with the spoilers. It makes it far harder to read. Thank you.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Statua on March 12, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Can you please stop with the spoilers. It makes it far harder to read. Thank you.
It's BB code fucking shit up.

Code: [Select]
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: sorta
[OOC] Luca Paytner: if u r, mind looking at my PAC suggestion
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: i can arleady tell you that wont og through
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: wow how do i england
[OOC] Luca Paytner: really? damn. it'd be cool for golds only
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: i know, i sort of want it in too
[OOC] C18.MPF.ECHO-TrO.56009: but idk

Thats what it's supposed to say.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Sexy Frog on March 12, 2014, 06:35:57 PM
Pointless imo. We can live without it.

But then again, it's a good alternative for Donator benefits. If I were thinking for any other reason other than that, I would not support this. But at the moment, I remain neutral.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Nicknero on March 13, 2014, 03:59:47 AM
Imo it's just to much hassle and possible abuse for to little good, and thus not worth it.

Maybe for outlands, but NOT for city.
Citizens have standard clothing anyway, so putting other parts/cloths on your character is not good.

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Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Phoenix on March 13, 2014, 05:22:42 AM
Could disable some features, possibly. I know PAC could be useful for actually making your character the correct height. I know fearRP would work well when I see a unit walking towards me thats towering over me. Or a small girl. Etc. Could be used for glasses, backpacks, non-UU clothing. I don't know about Units, though. Considering they're not really supposed to stick out in a group with each other unless they're a higher rank. But still.

tl;dr allows height adjustment, glasses / hats. Maybe some different emblems on units so it actually shows their division? Idk. Just throwin' out ideas.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: rBST Cow on March 13, 2014, 11:06:29 AM
Imo it's just to much hassle and possible abuse for to little good, and thus not worth it.

Maybe for outlands, but NOT for city.
Citizens have standard clothing anyway, so putting other parts/cloths on your character is not good.

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Could be used for glasses, backpacks, non-UU clothing.
allows height adjustment, glasses / hats. Maybe some different emblems on units so it actually shows their division?

Nick, not evrrrrrrrrrrybody has UU clothing. Having PAC would make it easier for units to spot these people and deal with them. Like pheonix said, glasses and backpacks. PAC would help differentiate people from afar so you don't have to zoom in on people and try to get their description to hold still in order to see who they are.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: DrVengeance on March 13, 2014, 09:48:01 PM
Well listen good and well (http://www.catalyst-gaming.net/index.php?topic=24096.msg176648#msg176648)
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 14, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
any word on this or is it still a no?
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: DrVengeance on March 17, 2014, 01:58:48 AM
Well it was pretty much accepted before the server went down before.
As there was no outstanding flaw that as mentioned. It also would improve RP and give you a chance to write more in description about scars and shit.

PAC 2stronk4u
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: rBST Cow on March 17, 2014, 02:06:11 AM
I support PAC and I think this addon would work great as long as restrictions were put in place. The only thing missing is the lack of supporters. For those of you who want this to actually happen, message steam friends, hl2rp secs, and roflwaffle and explain to them why this should happen. Guarantee this suggestion will have a higher chance of acceptance if you do this.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Vegas on March 17, 2014, 02:54:21 AM
+1
I support it because it would mean that you don't have to stare someone down to find out what they look like, all it would need was some restrictions. I think it would work if we put it in.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Doctor Nice roButt on March 17, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
A limited access to PAC would be nice. I'm sure there could be restrictions set on how many items someone can use, what items, ect.
+1
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: AntiVirus on March 17, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
I really find the Pac suggestion really annoying and idk I really don't think its a good idea, I used to be a Super admin on this one sandbox server and every time I loaded into the server my pac load out would load automatically for me and it got fucking annoying. I mean would their be a thing in options to turn it off?
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: DrVengeance on March 17, 2014, 11:18:53 PM
I really find the Pac suggestion really annoying and idk I really don't think its a good idea, I used to be a Super admin on this one sandbox server and every time I loaded into the server my pac load out would load automatically for me and it got fucking annoying. I mean would their be a thing in options to turn it off?

There is an option to not see it
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Misty is kinda Mittens on March 20, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
+ Support

I do want this it seems really cool. But the abuse as probably stated before. Make it a flag then.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: DrVengeance on March 21, 2014, 02:24:58 AM
(http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/579017377749282275/0CB3B0209B7EE8729DDC1F03B27198A7D06E1D46/)
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/579017377749283686/5711B360D3A1D3BCE951699491799E99EA5F9525/1024x768.resizedimage)

Dat PAC
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Sexy Frog on March 21, 2014, 08:58:47 AM
I still personally don't agree with having PAC. Not for City anyways. If we were talking outlands, that'd be a different story, but I personally feel it has no place in city.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 21, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
that is because people are

A) afraid it'll be abused (because they remember build servers / darkrps / hl2rp where admins don't bother to enforce punishments)

B) they've personally never used it but have been told by numerous people the abuseability of it and are too scared of it, even if we add a flag for it for donators, gold members, etc.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: raged on March 21, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
im pretty sure theres already a plugin that scripts it for flags only
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: rBST Cow on March 21, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
You all try to say "oh pac can be abused" yet you allow Tool Trust? I find this to be quite funny since you can actually prop kill units with Tool Trust, get their guns, and MassRDM the server. With PAC, as far as I know it's nothing but visuals. Nothing more, nothing less. So why on earth would adding it be such a big deal when we already have TT?
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Khub on March 21, 2014, 06:38:18 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Vegas on March 21, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
do it, there's no reason not to. the furthest it can be abused to it a minor inconvenience/potential lag, which all can be done to much worse degrees with tool trust.
literally why not
i already said +1 so +2
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 21, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
im pretty sure theres already a plugin that scripts it for flags only

http://forums.cloudsixteen.com/index.php?topic=2460.msg17968#msg17968

its in the OP, nerd.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Yak on March 22, 2014, 02:22:34 AM
potential lag
not like we're being hit every day lol
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: raged on March 22, 2014, 02:27:36 AM
http://forums.cloudsixteen.com/index.php?topic=2460.msg17968#msg17968

its in the OP, nerd.

as if you'd think i'd read the whole thread who do u think i am
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 22, 2014, 12:36:59 PM
potential lag
not like we're being hit every day lol

this is a mighty fine point.

if we have too many players with PAC flags and they attach shiny lights and shit on themselves, the lag will increase.

best to put rules and / or not launch the PAC update until the i'm an idiot for assuming things attacks thin out
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: DrVengeance on March 22, 2014, 12:40:20 PM
potential lag
not like we're being hit every day lol

this is a mighty fine point.

if we have too many players with PAC flags and they attach shiny lights and shit on themselves, the lag will increase.

best to put rules and / or not launch the PAC update until the i'm an idiot for assuming things attacks thin out

You say that, but when we're not being hit, the server runs great.
When we are being hit, it cannot possibly get any worse.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: aeiou on March 22, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
I've seen people put a shitload of props on themselves using PAC (up to 100-200), and it hasn't degraded the performance at all. If your performance degrades from PAC, then something is wrong with your gmod - or your computer.

If anything, just add an option to make PAC stuff not load for players, so if you don't like PAC, you can just disable it.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Statua on March 22, 2014, 12:45:57 PM
potential lag
not like we're being hit every day lol

this is a mighty fine point.

if we have too many players with PAC flags and they attach shiny lights and shit on themselves, the lag will increase.

best to put rules and / or not launch the PAC update until the i'm an idiot for assuming things attacks thin out
Network lag caused by attacks and fps lag caused by entities are completely unrelated to each other. Point is invalid

I support this PAC thing completely. Treat it as an applicable flag like TT. Anyone caught abusing it goes to the dungeon. JK they just lose their flag and get a ban of some sort.
Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Swagile on March 22, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
potential lag
not like we're being hit every day lol

this is a mighty fine point.

if we have too many players with PAC flags and they attach shiny lights and shit on themselves, the lag will increase.

best to put rules and / or not launch the PAC update until the i'm an idiot for assuming things attacks thin out
Network lag caused by attacks and fps lag caused by entities are completely unrelated to each other. Point is invalid

I support this PAC thing completely. Treat it as an applicable flag like TT. Anyone caught abusing it goes to the dungeon. JK they just lose their flag and get a ban of some sort.

uhh thanks for updating my post when my point still stood for a long portion of the server's downtime.

Title: Re: PAC
Post by: Khub on March 22, 2014, 03:42:50 PM
uhh thanks for updating my post when my point still stood for a long portion of the server's downtime.

We won't get anywhere if maintain that kind of attitude. We'll continue pushing updates to the server regardless if we are or aren't getting hit.
The performance degradation PAC may cause on the server is negligible and all connecting clients will be given an option to unload it. If it does get out of control, we'll just disable it until/if a solution is found.
It might take a while for PAC to show up on the server anyway, I've currently got other priority stuff in development.
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