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Title: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 07, 2013, 11:25:44 PM
Starship Troopers Role Play

Alright let me state first that I think this would be an awesome role play. There are already server out for it, and I watched some of the movie. It's really good, and instantly thought of antlions when I saw the arachnids. So I had to suggest this on the forums instantly, and as fast as I could. This has been done before yes, but Catalyst Gaming is well known, and i'm pretty much almost sure that at least some people would want a starship troopers role play server. Though the argument comes to mind that even if this did happen people don't want new players to start out being giant over powered bugs or marines with guns. I would suggest possibly a city map? Big city with a small star troopers base? Could have events for attacks, fires, and on the very rare setting make the server or a seperate server private to the marines only for a all out battle? I think it would work well, and for those who don't know what it is here is a video giving a brief look on what it really is, and also any thoughts on this? Personally I would love to see a server like this up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faFuaYA-daw

I just found some screenshots of the early version. Though it still needs to get updated to Gmod13 but it's looking good. Dear god this looks amazing.
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/RecoveryIngame.jpg)
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/SSTRP/557th1-1.jpg)
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/SSTRP/557th3-1.jpg)(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/ForestIngame2.jpg)
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/ForestIngame4.jpg)
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/kingsmash2/Stonewall5.jpg)
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 08, 2013, 12:11:15 AM
No, we've already got Half Life Two on our hands and we're the best community for Hl2 RP.

-SUPPORT
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: rBST Cow on January 08, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
Months ago roflwaffle said that he doesn't want any more RP servers because we are already busy enough, and there is already a lack of administration on hrp. Although it would be cool to have a STRP server.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on January 08, 2013, 02:04:30 AM
Months ago roflwaffle said that he doesn't want any more RP servers because we are already busy enough, and there is already a lack of administration on hrp. Although it would be cool to have a STRP server.

I'm quite sure out of these 30,000 members, there are multiple administrative figures that can be recruited to assist in HRP. In the meantime, Rofl really doesn't need to work on STRP, neither do the coders currently working on HL2RP/HRP. I have multiple experienced coders/developers that would gladly work with catalyst to set up this game mode. Like you did with alex, you can assign another trusted administrative figure to handle STRP, updating Rofl on the progress/setbacks/updates etc. upon request.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Anzu on January 08, 2013, 03:31:24 AM
I remember this, i used to play it a while back.

I dont think its a good idea to get this on CG, we already have 3 RP Gamemodes and 5 RP servers. SSTRP, iirc, requires quite a population to not seem dead, unlike HL2RP which can settle on around 25 people.

Finding someone to be ECA for it wouldnt be hard, just take any experienced person from the staff. Getting new admins isnt as easy as you think, if it was we would already have enough.

What youre mentioning in the OP isnt what I used to play, th one I remember was on a wasteland style map with a lot of both factions.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on January 08, 2013, 06:09:26 AM
I remember this, i used to play it a while back.

I dont think its a good idea to get this on CG, we already have 3 RP Gamemodes and 5 RP servers. SSTRP, iirc, requires quite a population to not seem dead, unlike HL2RP which can settle on around 25 people.

Finding someone to be ECA for it wouldnt be hard, just take any experienced person from the staff. Getting new admins isnt as easy as you think, if it was we would already have enough.

What youre mentioning in the OP isnt what I used to play, th one I remember was on a wasteland style map with a lot of both factions.

I would understand finding admins would not be easy, but there are some retired/old admins coming back for their administration positions back. But they're mainly from HRP (Or so I'm told).

And Bomberman isn't in use at all, it's just there. I'm guessing it can be removed due to the fact that it's just there and virtually no one gets on there. So around 2 gamemodes that are currently in use. 5 RP servers, I understand, is very hard to keep up with. As a experienced DarkRP SA and a Administrator on multiple HL2RP servers, it's very hard to maintain a server like Harbor RP. Let alone maintain more than one server exactly like Harbor RP. So the difficulty there is understandable.

It can be solved by recruiting more administrative figures, which I have no idea how hard that is since I do not recruit admins here. So i'm going to guess that it's a lot harder than I had previously stated. But still, the fact that it can be done gives promise.

Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Anzu on January 08, 2013, 08:15:08 AM
Bomberman is in alpha, iirc its kindof broken or something.

Regardless, when OCRP2 comes up, we will have 3 RP gamemodes and 5 RP servers that we need to fill admin spots for. Having another is NOT gonna make anything easier.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: swag master spiderman on January 08, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
nobody plays STRP because of the necessary 1gb content packs and even if CG populated it would die in a month tops

as good as it looks this is the harsh harsh truth
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2013, 02:28:36 PM
nobody plays STRP because of the necessary 1gb content packs and even if CG populated it would die in a month tops

as good as it looks this is the harsh harsh truth
Nobody said we have to have a huge content pack for it. Easily just need a game mode, weapons, and marine models.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 08, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
Actually, i am re thinking but i will keep up my -SUPPORT in there, the pictures yes intimidate me, i actually used to play this for about 8 months, There's things like PAC Editor, Music Player to make the missions more epic.

And the only way we're going to be able to put SSTRP up is by having atleast 5 admins in-game, because the missions are set up by them, and we need atleast 20-30 people in it....

So we could set up events on the forum like, "Operation ................ 5/5/2013" and stuff, but as i mentioned in my first post we already have multiple servers and just bringing up SSTRP would bring more havoc to the admins and playerbase for each server, it'd spread out quite fast.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: [LP]GMK-MRL on January 08, 2013, 05:15:12 PM
Actually, i am re thinking but i will keep up my -SUPPORT in there, the pictures yes intimidate me, i actually used to play this for about 8 months, There's things like PAC Editor, Music Player to make the missions more epic.

And the only way we're going to be able to put SSTRP up is by having atleast 5 admins in-game, because the missions are set up by them, and we need atleast 20-30 people in it....

So we could set up events on the forum like, "Operation ................ 5/5/2013" and stuff, but as i mentioned in my first post we already have multiple servers and just bringing up SSTRP would bring more havoc to the admins and playerbase for each server, it'd spread out quite fast.

I'm pretty sure you don't need the Music Player installed in the gamemode. If it extends the download, then it really shouldn't be needed.

Also, it doesn't take 5 admins to run one mission really....Maybe 1-3 but not five, that's just overkill.

And personally, I despise forum RP, but it does sound like a good idea for others who enjoy forum RP.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: swag master spiderman on January 08, 2013, 05:31:52 PM
nobody plays STRP because of the necessary 1gb content packs and even if CG populated it would die in a month tops

as good as it looks this is the harsh harsh truth
Nobody said we have to have a huge content pack for it. Easily just need a game mode, weapons, and marine models.

and then you need maps for all the different events and the starships etc - it comes to a lot, most are around a Gigabyte which is a lot more than your average player is willing to download, especially if they don't have such a good internet connection.

you need a lot of content than other rp gamemodes such as hl2rp because there are no (immersive) stock models at all.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 08, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
nobody plays STRP because of the necessary 1gb content packs and even if CG populated it would die in a month tops

as good as it looks this is the harsh harsh truth
Nobody said we have to have a huge content pack for it. Easily just need a game mode, weapons, and marine models.

and then you need maps for all the different events and the starships etc - it comes to a lot, most are around a Gigabyte which is a lot more than your average player is willing to download, especially if they don't have such a good internet connection.

you need a lot of content than other rp game modes such as hl2rp because there are no (immersive) stock models at all.
True, but we don't need a lot of stuff like that. Even then I don't think it will all max to a gigabyte. That seems a bit extreme, and some people would actually download, and wait for it. Being that the only other community that holds STTRP is Eplison Gaming, and they get players on quite a lot. Their community is let alone based in the UK CG pretty much has a player base averaging around world wide. I'm  pretty sure a lot of people would play it on or at least try it out. Most players who have had Gmod for a long time would have probably already downloaded this stuff from garrysmod.org or the workshop. With maps you tend to pile up a lot of them after a while. For events, and such we don't really always need to move maps for an event. Even then being said on a "rare" time it would happen where maps would be moved.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: BltElite on January 09, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
No.

Really, no.

CG is too dumb as shit to do something as serous as SSTRP. And you think events are rare, they need to be done as much as possible to keep the playerbase interested, otherwise it dies. Event's take one or two admins and run for a while and require a different map to the base map.


tl;dr It wont work at cg, its too dumb to handle it.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Surgeon XE on January 09, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Starship Troopers Role Play

Alright let me state first that I think this would be an awesome role play. There are already server out for it, and I watched some of the movie. It's really good, and instantly thought of antlions when I saw the arachnids. So I had to suggest this on the forums instantly, and as fast as I could. This has been done before yes, but Catalyst Gaming is well known, and i'm pretty much almost sure that at least some people would want a starship troopers role play server. Though the argument comes to mind that even if this did happen people don't want new players to start out being giant over powered bugs or marines with guns. I would suggest possibly a city map? Big city with a small star troopers base? Could have events for attacks, fires, and on the very rare setting make the server or a seperate server private to the marines only for a all out battle? I think it would work well, and for those who don't know what it is here is a video giving a brief look on what it really is, and also any thoughts on this? Personally I would love to see a server like this up.



I just found some screenshots of the early version. Though it still needs to get updated to Gmod13 but it's looking good. Dear god this looks amazing.
I did play SSTRP and i must say, it was fun but as its military RP, there is not much to do for players which dont enjoy Passive too much.
And events... All out battles with NPC's usally end in people not doing much other than shoot the NPC's directly and then act like badasses, and when admins try to spice it up, people usally go and get killed, then the shitstorm starts...
I must say i -Support this.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: alaskan thunderfuck on January 09, 2013, 03:45:04 PM
No.

Really, no.

CG is too dumb as shit to do something as serous as SSTRP. And you think events are rare, they need to be done as much as possible to keep the playerbase interested, otherwise it dies. Event's take one or two admins and run for a while and require a different map to the base map.


tl;dr It wont work at cg, its too dumb to handle it.

Well it's nice to see our admins are confident in our community. Always a great trait. This wouldn't work not because CG is too dumb but because we don't have the manpower for another server. We already have to split up our admins more with OCRP2 coming up soon, HL2RP, 2 HRP servers and more to certainly come in the future. Not going to happen, sorry. And even if we were to do more roleplay, it'd be a completely original idea. Not something other people have already done.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: BltElite on January 09, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
No.

Really, no.

CG is too dumb as shit to do something as serous as SSTRP. And you think events are rare, they need to be done as much as possible to keep the playerbase interested, otherwise it dies. Event's take one or two admins and run for a while and require a different map to the base map.


tl;dr It wont work at cg, its too dumb to handle it.

Well it's nice to see our admins are confident in our community. Always a great trait. This wouldn't work not because CG is too dumb but because we don't have the manpower for another server. We already have to split up our admins more with OCRP2 coming up soon, HL2RP, 2 HRP servers and more to certainly come in the future. Not going to happen, sorry. And even if we were to do more roleplay, it'd be a completely original idea. Not something other people have already done.
Well I might as well speak my opinion on it, and you know it yourself that it won't work. Maybe I wrote it abit negatively and too brash but its my opinion.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 09, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Well, i know Blt from Validus Gaming, my personal opinion is 3-5 admins, 2 admins at least to run it, and yes, in Validus we had a lot of Map changes because we wanted it to fit in with the certain agenda we were implying into the mission,

No, events are not rare but if you didnt read, as i stated.... we need a lot of people to make it work, so as i said, To make a Global Annoucement that we will be having several events on a certain time and date for all people of CG to join and role play.

And people do like passive role play, as you've seen when Hl2 RP was down, everyone was crying and kept making IC threads of role play.
Yeah and NPCs incredibley ruin the game, it was completely unrealistic when we played it, all we had was 100 NPCs in a line just shooting us, and at rare times, someone would role play as a bad guy who was like a super duper pro leader or assassin.

It's like, if there's no admins on, the only thing you get to do is passive role play at your military base. i actually passive role played a lot on it, like training, hanging out with your friends, rp sleeping at the bunk beds, eating time, do jobs like clean the place, cook food for people, take a shower, etc.

So basically SSTRP Is Half Half of both Passive RP and RP. It's up to Roflwaffle if he wants to, i suggest it's up to a playerbase of 40-50 slots, but i doubt this will happen, we'd need some type of poll to see if everyone wants it up.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 09, 2013, 08:22:56 PM
Well, i know Blt from Validus Gaming, my personal opinion is 3-5 admins, 2 admins at least to run it, and yes, in Validus we had a lot of Map changes because we wanted it to fit in with the certain agenda we were implying into the mission,

No, events are not rare but if you didnt read, as i stated.... we need a lot of people to make it work, so as i said, To make a Global Annoucement that we will be having several events on a certain time and date for all people of CG to join and role play.

And people do like passive role play, as you've seen when Hl2 RP was down, everyone was crying and kept making IC threads of role play.
Yeah and NPCs incredibley ruin the game, it was completely unrealistic when we played it, all we had was 100 NPCs in a line just shooting us, and at rare times, someone would role play as a bad guy who was like a super duper pro leader or assassin.

It's like, if there's no admins on, the only thing you get to do is passive role play at your military base. i actually passive role played a lot on it, like training, hanging out with your friends, rp sleeping at the bunk beds, eating time, do jobs like clean the place, cook food for people, take a shower, etc.

So basically SSTRP Is Half Half of both Passive RP and RP. It's up to Roflwaffle if he wants to, i suggest it's up to a playerbase of 40-50 slots, but i doubt this will happen, we'd need some type of poll to see if everyone wants it up.

A pole would work well, but in another suggestion is that STTRP actually provides action RP. (Serious RP) In HL2RP I notice there if almost no action. Yeah I get it role play it role playing it's not meant to be a shooter, but action happens at a rare time. Guns are almost never used besides the CCA in killing citizens for those level one verdicts. So just a server to have a mix of action, and role play would work well, and keep players entertained. There is always the option of maybe basing STTRP in a city map. Having civilians, and shops. Roleplay would still be involved, and as for downloads there can always be an SVN so people wouldn't have to download 15 things. It would come in a single package.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: shrimp on January 10, 2013, 02:31:14 AM
A pole would work well, but in another suggestion is that STTRP actually provides action RP. (Serious RP) In HL2RP I notice there if almost no action. Yeah I get it role play it role playing it's not meant to be a shooter, but action happens at a rare time. Guns are almost never used besides the CCA in killing citizens for those level one verdicts. So just a server to have a mix of action, and role play would work well, and keep players entertained. There is always the option of maybe basing STTRP in a city map. Having civilians, and shops. Roleplay would still be involved, and as for downloads there can always be an SVN so people wouldn't have to download 15 things. It would come in a single package.
Outlands has quite a bit of gun action, when it's up we can tell. But I'm not saying I'm opposed to SSTRP, I've played on one server's version of it and it was quite fun and Action-Packed like you said. But would it be good for our Community? Right now we aren't getting much population, opening a new server might bring it up, or waste money on another server with even more empty slots... Plus the Administration situation, and we'd need some people dedicated to that server.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: smt on January 10, 2013, 02:34:10 AM
I'd rather have a Terminator RP server, SSTRP is always awful
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 10, 2013, 11:25:14 AM
@Ninja shrimp: Yeah outlands does have action. It's just rare that anyone ever has a firefight. I've noticed that when people get guns or ammo most never use it. Due to the fact its mostly OTA they fight but they just get their ass kicked because OTA are armed to the teeth. But in STTRP the citizens get action and mostly win.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 10, 2013, 05:11:08 PM
In SSTRP everyone gets one whitelist at the start, and that's the Army. Depending on the server, you will start off as a recruit, and what i did i went through intense two hour RP training doing the drills with about 10 other recruits.

We got taught all the basics

Example:

Formations
Basic Shooting Knowledge
Running/The Exercise Course
Basic Medical Stuff.


I cant really remember what else, also it had PAC Editor, Basically what Pac editor is, is you use props from the menu to edit your character, for example

I could get the metropolice mask and put it on my face, it'd be like i go in the pac menu, and then load like metropolicemask.mdl
or something like that
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/560943464281781425/4A8647B94AE483A8276BC9C09B9670075F36D14B/)

Lol excuse the trolly me on the right, but what else you could do is you could make a Stance, for example you could change this any time at your will, someone made a succesful prone stance, it's like your model, you click on it and it'll switch to that, we were making a prone stance but as you can see we ridciously failed. but there has been succesful ones


(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/470862413622667553/3B7F41F89906EB1DEF32082263A1ADBADC349E30/)

I will use spoilers to keep this looking small, that's another screen shot, excuse the top, that is the pac editor, i used it so i can get a ggood look at everyone, keep note that this was a long time ago.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/470862413600674723/19D9F75A0FFD1060F08FA06EEB7B214097CB8DAF/)

Another picture, we were stacking up upon the wall.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560943464308436397/E45ABD84E99A6DB7969C94011AB7AC35C6C4CF8E/)

That was one of the addons we used as an advantage, since the map was tremoundsley big, i mean REALLY big, we could use these warthogs and have a good fast paced escape, since the whole place was going to explode or i think we needed to get out of there since we were being over run, then we had a good 1-2 minute driving going extremely fast.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/560943464308425843/9522D875B1BD0A6BBABA1929E0B9643572FFF190/)

That is also my character, the LMG was granted for a special occasion as we were being overrun extremely.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560943464308416439/29E0B2D7DF8DFBABC17BFF84700F93220629BE75/)

This is the FPS view, you could also aim through it and the green bit would like fuzz around like a real electronic one.

That's all i've got to share, i've got some more but there pointless.

I hope this gives Roflwaffle or someone some encouragement to bring this up, if you get intimidated by this authorize a poll.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: smt on January 10, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
All of your screenshots show a script that is loaded with script to generate RP for you

please don't do this
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 10, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
All of your screenshots show a script that is loaded with script to generate RP for you

please don't do this

What?
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: Delta1116732 on January 11, 2013, 12:29:52 AM
A pole would be nice, and I do find most of the problems people have are pretty much about content, admins, and population to support it.

Admins: Alright, so right now we have a pretty good range of admins along Catalyst Gaming. We have separate admins for HL2RP, and HRP. We could always do the same for STTRP.  Separate admins for STTRP just like HL2RP, and HRP. It would work well, and new admins could always be recruited for it. I'm certain there are multiple people here who have played STTRP. Let alone admins who currently play.

Population: Alright yeah STTRP isn't an "original" idea. There are never original ideas, and if someone comes up with one. It's probably been done before. Though if you look at other STTRP RP severs (When they were up) there was a couple of them, and they were well populated. We have a very good steady population currently, and with a STTRP server that would only bring more people.

Content: Okay yeah we will be moving maps, and models along with all that good stuff will be needed. Though for any role play server there is always content needed. We can always use an easy SVN for the models though. It's much quicker, and it does it all at once. Simple concept. For those who don't then there can be a download pack set up.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: {-=ECRP-CO=-}Pvt.Benjamen on January 11, 2013, 02:18:51 AM
A pole would be nice, and I do find most of the problems people have are pretty much about content, admins, and population to support it.

Admins: Alright, so right now we have a pretty good range of admins along Catalyst Gaming. We have separate admins for HL2RP, and HRP. We could always do the same for STTRP.  Separate admins for STTRP just like HL2RP, and HRP. It would work well, and new admins could always be recruited for it. I'm certain there are multiple people here who have played STTRP. Let alone admins who currently play.

Population: Alright yeah STTRP isn't an "original" idea. There are never original ideas, and if someone comes up with one. It's probably been done before. Though if you look at other STTRP RP severs (When they were up) there was a couple of them, and they were well populated. We have a very good steady population currently, and with a STTRP server that would only bring more people.

Content: Okay yeah we will be moving maps, and models along with all that good stuff will be needed. Though for any role play server there is always content needed. We can always use an easy SVN for the models though. It's much quicker, and it does it all at once. Simple concept. For those who don't then there can be a download pack set up.

Oh man i highly doubt this will happen.
People would poll for it because they would want admin for STTRP, that's about it.
I'm still keeping up my -Support even though i've posted all this stuff
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: wag1 on January 11, 2013, 09:49:26 AM
I'd like to see this happen but it takes a lot of team work to get a good SSTRP going.

I don't know if the admin team can handle that.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: tics on January 11, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
Months ago roflwaffle said that he doesn't want any more RP servers because we are already busy enough, and there is already a lack of administration on hrp. Although it would be cool to have a STRP server.
To be fair, RoflWaffle doesn't want any more serious RP servers because they aren't worth the work for the small amount of donations they bring in.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers RP?
Post by: kronik on February 27, 2013, 05:05:34 PM
It's a no. RoflWaffle and a few others already made it clear why.
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